Lycanthrope
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How will agriculture, construction, hospitality, and other industries respond to losing 8 million workers? How will they recoup the revenue losses in having to hire Americans/legal residents at higher wages/benefits? Where would they pass those loses along? How will the economy in general be impacted when 8 million workers are no longer here spending their wages in the US?They have a truly fundamental misunderstanding about undocumented immigration.
They would have to raise wages and continue automation.How will agriculture, construction, hospitality, and other industries respond to losing 8 million workers? How will they recoup the revenue losses in having to hire Americans/legal residents at higher wages/benefits? Where would they pass those loses along? How will the economy in general be impacted when 8 million workers are no longer here spending their wages in the US?
Rhetorical questions, of course.
Federal law should be followed. That's simple to understand. As far as funding, if you don't need it no problem if they tie it to following the federal law. Don't want to hurt anyone but illegals need to be apprehended and sent in front of immigrations courts to determine what their fate should be.And when the wealthy states say "screw you"?
NJ is a sanctuary state. Very little of our state budget comes from federal funding.
You want Trump to cut off funding for what, exactly?
The largest single spending spot I see in our current NJ state budget that is supported by the federal government is funding for poor kids to get EBT cards. You want to take away the food from their families I guess?
Who is it that you want to hurt to round up your "illegals" in the states who don't rely on federal funding to operate their budgets?
Let's try legal immigration. This easy on crime attitude by liberals is not good for the nation. I have no problem with legal immigration but I don't think illegals need to remain unless they can meet the requirements of asylum and data says that's about 10%.They would have to raise wages and continue automation.
I thought you were all about state rights?Federal law should be followed. That's simple to understand.
The federal government needs the money from my state more than we need the money from the federal government.As far as funding, if you don't need it no problem if they tie it to following the federal law. Don't want to hurt anyone but illegals need to be apprehended and sent in front of immigrations courts to determine what their fate should be.
Let's try legal immigration. This easy on crime attitude by liberals is not good for the nation. I have no problem with legal immigration but I don't think illegals need to remain unless they can meet the requirements of asylum and data says that's about 10%.
It’s always humorous to me when cons pretend to care about human rights.Trump’s first task is herculean: closing the border. Here are his plans.
President-elect Trump plans to supercharge border patrol, combat sanctuary cities, complete his wall, and battle the drug cartels to end the immigration crisis.justthenews.com
Those poor Hollywood pedophiles will just have to find another way to get all the children they lust after so heartily.
Hopefully there will be some legislative help here as well. Americans are sick of hearing about fellow citizens being killed by someone who is in the country illegal and who has already been released for prior crimes with charges pending before then engage in the rape, murder, drunk driving or drug use that harms Americans.
If we stop funding Ukraine, we could fund about six walls.
It would be so nice to see our fellow citizens who are suffering in the grip of homelessness largely caused by drug and alcohol abuse to get that easy access to fentanyl removed. Perhaps our downtowns, parks and common spaces would actually be available for all of us to feel safe and use again.
Then again there is the human trafficking angle which again involves thousands of women and children. We must put an end to this. Finally Mexico is a great neighbor with great people but they are unable to handle these cartels. Let's stop the cartels and we can not only MAKE AMERICAN GREAT AGAIN, we can MAKE MEXICO GREAT AGAIN!
He actually said he would end the Ukraine war with a phone call 24hrs after he was elected. But I do think he will cut off aid and leave the Ukrainians to fight without us. He cannot end the Ukraine war by himself and if he cannot get Putin to give up anything there will be war for years. You got played.Trump promised to broker a deal between Russia and Ukraine. He said that he would end the War in Ukraine within 24 hours of Inauguration. Hopefully he can, and American taxpayers will no longer be burdened with the cost of funding Ukraine.
amen to that.
Trump’s first task is herculean: closing the border. Here are his plans.
President-elect Trump plans to supercharge border patrol, combat sanctuary cities, complete his wall, and battle the drug cartels to end the immigration crisis.justthenews.com
Those poor Hollywood pedophiles will just have to find another way to get all the children they lust after so heartily.
Hopefully there will be some legislative help here as well. Americans are sick of hearing about fellow citizens being killed by someone who is in the country illegal and who has already been released for prior crimes with charges pending before then engage in the rape, murder, drunk driving or drug use that harms Americans.
Just stop it!MAGAs have never been conservatives.
They're fascists.
And the feds can deal with it.Immigration is a federal matter.
Not happening. We have our own job to do. This is the job of CBP and ICE.
"Unleash." Are we dogs? Kiss my entire ass.
Illegal immigrants, mostly, cross the border legally. But hey, if Trump pisses trillions down a hole in a desert so he can point at a wall, I guess the magatry will stomp and cheer.
They hate people being shot too, gonna get rid of those as well?
not even close, it would cost close to 12 trillion to cover the whole southern border.
Stopping the cartels would be great, the problem is Mexico doesn't want what it would take to get rid of them. Probably more corruption in their government than they would like to admit.
There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of the problem at the border. People aren't trying to sneak in. They are giving themselves up and claiming asylum.
Deportations will not affect this.
Walls will not affect this
Cracking down on sanctuary cities will not affect this.
Drug running has nothing to do with this.
Otherwise, it sounds like he'll pass the plan that he had his senators sink last year.
Trump doesn't solve problems. He exploits them.
Do you think city police resources, already stretched thin, should be dedicated to doing the feds job for them?
Combine that with his reckless tariff plan, we're gonna see a lot of businesses shutter.
Already saw a story of one plant in a conservative district where the workers got told they wont be getting a Christmas bonus this year, because they're trying to buy a year's worth of supplies before Jan 20, because Trump's promised tariffs are going to skyrocket their operating costs. The workers were confused, because they thought foreign companies paid tariffs.
You elected a pedophile.
Show us the Federal money earmarked to states for the purpose of having local law enforcement enforce immigration law specifically.
United States Border Patrol apprehended Johan José Martínez-Rangel near El Paso on March 14, but he was released that same day, on an order of recognizance, with a notice to appear in court at a later date. U.S. Border Patrol arrested Franklin José Peña Ramos on May 28, also near El Paso, but he was also released with a notice to appear in court at a later date.[3]
Good. Then they can do their job.CBP and ICE will be unleashed. Biden has put them on a leash and treated them worse than dogs.
How will agriculture, construction, hospitality, and other industries respond to losing 8 million workers? How will they recoup the revenue losses in having to hire Americans/legal residents at higher wages/benefits? Where would they pass those loses along? How will the economy in general be impacted when 8 million workers are no longer here spending their wages in the US?
Rhetorical questions, of course.
One must be realistic. Trump has a lot of power to close down border crossings and/or limit entry. However, if he tries to revoke those paroled into the US it is likely that suits will be filed and some federal judge somewhere will but stay on it. There are a myrid of excuses activist judges can use, such as it requiring a case by case review, due process hearings, yada yada yada.
The only chance Trump has to fundamentally change the system is through legislation, or the Supreme Court having the spine to back Presidential powers contained in existing legislation. The Courts, so far, havn't fully respected existing immigration law.
The Democrats will filibuster any legislation coming from the house or Senate majority, and the only way to get past that is tie it to budget reduction legislation. In other words, show that the legislation would result in a savings.
You're not paying attention.CBP and ICE will be unleashed. Biden has put them on a leash and treated them worse than dogs.
Trump previously had them remain in Mexico while their claims were processed. Biden removed that.
During the first Trump term the cost was floated at as high as $20 billion. It could cost what we have sent the Ukraine aka $150 billion or more and it would be just fine. Democrats borrow $1.6 trillion a year. Cost concern trolling will fall at this stage.
You're not very good at this.
Criminals in one area often commit crimes in another. When say a rapist from Guatamala is caught fighting and driving drunk in San Francisco, when he is in police custody a federal immigration will require they simply continue to hold him until the appropriate federal agencies can come and get him. Right now in sanctuary cities they refuse to share arrest information with federal agencies and will release that rapist with no bound and a court date to appear for drunk driving. When that man goes out and harms, kills or rapes some more, it could have been prevented.
Court rules Trump administration can withhold grants from "sanctuary cities"
Seven states and New York City sued after the Justice Department said in 2017 that it would not award grants from a federal program to local governments that withheld information about undocumented immigrants in their jails.www.nbcnews.com
The tariffs are to keep trade fair, not just free. Americans cannot impose wage requirements and environmental requirements on their own economy and then compete with other countries who do nothing like that.
Joe Biden was pushed out by his party. No one got to vote for him.
Court rules Trump administration can withhold grants from "sanctuary cities"
Seven states and New York City sued after the Justice Department said in 2017 that it would not award grants from a federal program to local governments that withheld information about undocumented immigrants in their jails.www.nbcnews.com
But let's also add this bit.
These two rapist/murderers should have remained in Mexico. When they crossed and were apprehended, they should have been sent back home. Instead Americans suffer and die.
Wealthy, powerful people make big bucks off cheap labour and you think Trump will stop it?They might have to go back to hiring American works, maybe even American union workers and good wages that would easily offset the cost of any tariff price increases.
They'll spend their wages locally.
Trump’s first task is herculean: closing the border. Here are his plans.
President-elect Trump plans to supercharge border patrol, combat sanctuary cities, complete his wall, and battle the drug cartels to end the immigration crisis.justthenews.com
Those poor Hollywood pedophiles will just have to find another way to get all the children they lust after so heartily.
Hopefully there will be some legislative help here as well. Americans are sick of hearing about fellow citizens being killed by someone who is in the country illegal and who has already been released for prior crimes with charges pending before then engage in the rape, murder, drunk driving or drug use that harms Americans.
If we stop funding Ukraine, we could fund about six walls.
It would be so nice to see our fellow citizens who are suffering in the grip of homelessness largely caused by drug and alcohol abuse to get that easy access to fentanyl removed. Perhaps our downtowns, parks and common spaces would actually be available for all of us to feel safe and use again.
Then again there is the human trafficking angle which again involves thousands of women and children. We must put an end to this. Finally Mexico is a great neighbor with great people but they are unable to handle these cartels. Let's stop the cartels and we can not only MAKE AMERICAN GREAT AGAIN, we can MAKE MEXICO GREAT AGAIN!
That's why you elected a pedophile? Weird.Joe Biden was pushed out by his party. No one got to vote for him.
What Donald Trump's Win Means For Immigration
Now that Donald Trump has won the presidential election, here's what to know about his immigration plan.time.com
Trump has had a little time to think about this.
Trump doesn't do the thinking - his ability to develop a coherent plan is limited. It entirely depends on the campaign staff he has accumulated, of which there has been little public discussion. Since Trump burned through his former cadre' of competent and crazy advisors, this new group is relatively unknown. Picked for their early loyalty to Trump, it has been upto them to shape an effective agenda.
He has a competent Chief of Staff (his campaign manager) who only took the job with the assurance that she had 100 percent authority to decide who does and does not have access to Trump. I don't know if any of his prior people rejoined his campaign.
In any event, I have been a long time critic of our lax border policies and inability to deal with illegals and immigration the way it should be - according the the law. However, the courts have failed us...
So I've largely given up hoping for anything to be done.
That's why you elected a pedophile? Weird.
So Trump’s plan won’t stop the majority of illegal immigration, sex trafficking, or drug trafficking. Good to know.
Wealthy, powerful people make big bucks off cheap labour and you think Trump will stop it?
News for you, bud, Trump doesn't need anything from you or any other voters anymore, but he still needs those wealthy, powerful people.
He might build that wall because he knows it will have little effect. Wouldn't it be a hoot if some of the contractors on the job were Trump cronies with illegal workers?
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