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Trump’s border czar says he’s sending National Guard to fight LA anti-ICE protests as clashes continue into second day

JMB1911A1 said:
Words mean things. If you cannot be precise in your arguments, that is not my problem.
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Yes it is your problem because you're pretending that significant fraud is exactly the same as .001.

So my question for you is this:

How does <.001% fraud justify J6?
 
Why did Kamala get 15 million fewer votes than Joe Biden did in the 2020 election?
Were did those 15 million voters go?
 
Linuxcooldude said:
Hum, lefties were mad Trump didn’t deploy the National Guard during the Capitol riots. Make up your mind.
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More than "lefties" were angered by Fatso sitting on his hands while loyal Americans died.

for you to spin it is the real crime.

In American you can get away with anything, even mass murder if you're properly connected to criminal billionaires like Trump

Jesus! How can anyone respect you when you have a convicted RAPIST and FRAUD as leader of the country. That cheap, slimy incident told the world America is corrupt to the core.

The result is even hot bed tourist areas around the world are telling Americans to STAY HOME. We don't need thieves and rapists here.
 
soap box said:
Trump did not wait this time.....? Surprise!!

He planned the whole thing months ago.

"The internal discussions about leveraging the military to support immigration enforcement inside the US, rather than just on the southern border, began as early as February, when the White House and DHS started planning how to mobilize active-duty troops from consenting states as force protection for federal agents."

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Trump has been pressing for an excuse to kill Americans since his first term.

There is a reason for all this unrest....he is pushing it just like Germany did in 1933.

And you swallowed all the Koolaid
 
Buster Keaton said:
Why did Kamala get 15 million fewer votes than Joe Biden did in the 2020 election?
Were did those 15 million voters go?
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That's not evidence, that's speculation.

Weren't you complaining that Harris wasn't good enough? Maybe millions of people agreed.

See? I can speculate too.
 
soap box said:
That's not evidence, that's speculation.

Weren't you complaining that Harris wasn't good enough? Maybe millions of people agreed.

See? I can speculate too.
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Maybe the Democrat voters hate women and minorities
 
Buster Keaton said:
Maybe the Democrat voters hate women and minorities
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Sure. Have you stopped to consider how futile it is to say an election was won or lost because of ______.

There are so many intervening variables that there's no way to structure the impact of a specific event or moment that won or lost an election. Every voter has a different composite of issue saliency and there are millions of voters.

This is similar to the drinking game, historical what if. What if Hitler had won the war? There are no correct answers. You could write a book about it and still have nothing but speculation.

So yeah, let's just guess all day! As long as you realize none of it is a true fact.
 
soap box said:
Sure. Have you stopped to consider how futile it is to say an election was won or lost because of ______.

There are so many intervening variables that there's no way to structure the impact of a specific event or moment that won or lost an election. Every voter has a different composite of issue saliency and there are millions of voters.

This is similar to the drinking game, historical what if. What if Hitler had won the war? There are no correct answers. You could write a book about it and still have nothing but speculation.

So yeah, let's just guess all day! As long as you realize none of it is a true fact.
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Actually it is suspicious, not speculation.
 
Buster Keaton said:
Actually it is suspicious, not speculation.
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You mean it's not defined as speculation and instead it's suspicious?

Ok with me because suspicion isn't a fact either.
 
Buster Keaton said:
This is what makes the Democrat Party a cult
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No, running around like you think you're Kurt Russell in Escape From L.A. and screeching about burning cars is what shows you're in a cult.
I've been watching social media and even a little bit of Fox News and I'm telling you they've burned that same Waymo taxi like 50 times now.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
No, running around like you think you're Kurt Russell in Escape From L.A. and screeching about burning cars is what shows you're in a cult.
I've been watching social media and even a little bit of Fox News and I'm telling you they've burned that same Waymo taxi like 50 times now.
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Is Gavin Newsom playing the role of Cuervo Jones? Is he going to lead his people to the promised land?
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
Not me. Pelosi is the one who said it.
Watch for yourself and learn something.
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She took responsibility for not having the Capitol Police not being better prepared. She didn't take responsibility for there not being National Guard present. And why would she since she had no authority to have them there?
 
Jagged said:
She took responsibility for not having the Capitol Police not being better prepared. She didn't take responsibility for there not being National Guard present. And why would she since she had no authority to have them there?
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Incorrect.

The request for national guard assistance has to come from the Capitol Police Board - made of the Seargent at Arms of the House and Senate, and Architect of the Capitol. The Capitol Chief of Police made multiple requests for the national guard to be on site, and was turned down by the board, specifically the Sargent's at Arms, because their bosses felt it would create bad 'optics'. The Senate suggested that he make an informal request for the NG to be on standby.

The Seargent at Arms for the House reported to Nancy Pelosi. She was half of the problem.
 
dcsports said:
Incorrect.

The request for national guard assistance has to come from the Capitol Police Board - made of the Seargent at Arms of the House and Senate, and Architect of the Capitol. The Capitol Chief of Police made multiple requests for the national guard to be on site, and was turned down by the board, specifically the Sargent's at Arms, because their bosses felt it would create bad 'optics'. The Senate suggested that he make an informal request for the NG to be on standby.

The Seargent at Arms for the House reported to Nancy Pelosi. She was half of the problem.
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There is no evidence Pelosi told Irving to not request National Guard assistance.
 
soap box said:
She said that in the video mere minutes after the evacuation from the Capitol. No one completely understood what had happened. So you're saying a person in shock, without real information, is able to assess what just happened. She didn't realize who was doing what.

It's impossible to blame Pelosi for what trump did.

Did Pelosi send a tweet telling the supporters to come to his rally? Did Pelosi tell them to March down the avenue? Did Pelosi lie about election fraud?

Name somebody who knew they would break in and go inside the Capitol.

They didn't know the rioters would go inside the Capitol. Do you understand the difference between remaining outside the Capitol compared to breaking in?

Pelosi was never authorized to order the NG. She and McConnell signed the same security agreement for J6 but you don't include him in the blame because you don't know how J6 occurred.

Please explain why trump didn't call the NG at 3pm when McCarthy begged him to intervene?
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Piperwrench is confused to what Pelosi assumed responsibility. She took responsibility to what she, and her Chief of Staff, were discussing, which was Capitol Police preparedness. Pelosi herself had no authority to request National Guard assistance. And she certainly wasn't in charge of Capitol security. Trump, however, could have had the National Guard there, but didn't.
 
soap box said:
They were there because Trump lied about election fraud. Did Pelosi claim there was election fraud? It's impossible to blame anyone else but trump.
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Exactly right. If not for Trump's Big Lie, January 6th, 2021, would have just been another Wednesday.
 
Jagged said:
There is no evidence Pelosi told Irving to not request National Guard assistance.
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Again, the Seargent at Arms of the House told the chief of police that the reason he turned him down was concern about optics from his boss - and he reports directly to the speaker. No direct testimony to that effect from the Seargeant at arms.. It absolutely should have been something the Jan 6 "committee" explored. Pelosi, McConnell, and both Seargents at Arms should have testified.
 
Michael Cole said:
Broken record. The chief told Trump to keep his troops out of LA. In so many words. It's been posted a dozen times. Buy a new record player.
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The president has a duty to protect the ICE employees and federal property.
The far left anarchists were assaulting the ICE employees and the police chief said that they were "overwhelmed"
Trump did the right thing.
 
Buster Keaton said:
Video of people stuffing ballot drop boxes
Video of Democrats counting ballots after they sent the poll watchers home
Video of Democrats counting the shame stack of ballots over and over.
Video of Democrats covering the window while they counted ballots.
www.foxnews.com

Patrick Basham explains why Biden victory 'not statistically impossible, but ... statistically implausible'

President-elect Joe Biden defied key "non-polling metrics" to defeat President Trump in a way that is "not statistically impossible, but it's statistically implausible," pollster Patrick Basham told Fox News' "Life, Liberty & Levin" in an interview airing Sunday night.
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I know that It is impossible for the Democrats to admit that they are liars and cheaters.
But that is what they are.
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Only 1 person was charged with stuffing ballot boxes. That had no effect on the election.

Ballots counted after observers left were still on camera. No fraud occurred.

The stacks of ballots were counted repeatedly because that was the procedure for when a stack errred. No fraud occurred.

Windows were covered to prevent people outside from taking pictures. There were still Republican observers inside. No fraud occurred.
 
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