Trump’s border czar says he’s sending National Guard to fight LA anti-ICE protests as clashes continue into second day

[Linuxcooldude]

LA and CA police are fully capable of handling the anti deportation protest demonstrations.

There is no need for almost 5000 federal troops in the tiny area that is central LA. Your constant and persistent degrading and dismissing the LAPD has no justification.

Neither do you need a ratio of 10 federal troops for each ICE goon agent. One problem is that ICE agents are not exactly neighbors when they start coming at you.

Hum, lefties were mad Trump didn’t deploy the National Guard during the Capitol riots. Make up your mind.

 

[AZRWinger]

Protesting, yelling, scuffles, shoving. I don't know if that is the same as a "violent" attack worthy of our most vigorous condemnations. Also, I saw a video of ICE running someone over, so there's that.

Shoving a police officer is assault. Scuffling is aggravated assault. Of course the Leftist media defends the thugs as just having a good time watching cars burn and it's a peaceful Sunday afternoon. Ridiculous.

I know this is not true because I read an article yesterday and it stated they just showed up at a home depot and arrested random immigrants on the spot. So, they were not serving search warrants in that case.

You read an unnamed article. Here is an excerpt from ABC News.

"Everything began on Friday when Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers executed search warrants at multiple locations, including outside a clothing warehouse in the city's fashion district.

A judge had found probable cause that the employer was using fictitious documents for some of its workers, according to representatives for Homeland Security Investigations and the US Attorney's Office."

How tensions have escalated since riots erupted in LA after immigration raids

Immigration and Customs Enforcement raids have sparked riots across Los Angeles, leading to the National Guard being called in. Here's a recap of events.

www.abc.net.au

Officers were executing duly authorized search warrants. Leftist thugs attempted to block ICE vehicles transporting suspects to ICE offices at which point the officers used their professional judgement to request backup from LAPD.

This is what DHS claimed, but LAPD records show they arrived in roughly 55 minutes and blamed traffic and tear-gas smoke for the delay. News outlets have not found proof that officers stalled on purpose.

So, would you consider nearly an hour delay in responding to a call for assistance in a violent situation acceptable? It's not, they deliberately delayed coming to the aid of ICE officers out of shameful political malice.

In case you forgot, LAPD has lights and sirens to help them deal with traffic.

Second, there were scuffles, yes. Some protesters threw rocks and fireworks. But the news reported only minor injuries on both sides, and no credible source says police gave protesters "free reign" to attack anyone or that assaults went unanswered once LAPD arrived.

Great, you approve of thugs throw rocks, pieces of cinder blocks and lighting off commercial fireworks in attempts to injure the police. Brilliant.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/06/11/los-angeles-police-law-enforcement-immigration-protests/

Maps and photos show how the Los Angeles ICE protests unfolded

Here is what happened on each day the protests against immigration detention operations in the Los Angeles area.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Great, you approve of thugs throw rocks, pieces of cinder blocks and lighting off commercial fireworks in attempts to injure the police. Brilliant.

You think 100 percent of the people protesting are doing that.
You think 100 percent of the people protesting support it.

You don't think very much.
But your knee jerks spectacularly.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Sanctuary jurisdictions do much more to defy immigration law than just refuse to help ICE. They ban ICE agents from taking illegal alien criminals into custody inside their jails. Instead, they release illegal aliens with outstanding deportation orders to prey upon the public while forcing ICE agents to apprehend the criminals at large where radical Leftist groups are mobilized to violently oppose them.

Except that's bullshit.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Shoving a police officer is assault. Scuffling is aggravated assault. Of course the Leftist media defends the thugs as just having a good time watching cars burn and it's a peaceful Sunday afternoon. Ridiculous.

Just peaceful tourists showing some love.

 

[MTAtech]

This precedent has already been set by Bush when he sent 700 Marines to L.A. during the 1992 riots.

At the request of the governor.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

You think 100 percent of the people protesting are doing that.
You think 100 percent of the people protesting support it.

You don't think very much.
But your knee jerks spectacularly.

So if protesters are not throwing things, it wouldn’t apply, right?

 

[Linuxcooldude]

At the request of the governor.

Trump can use Presidential Protected Power to use the military to protect federal functions, property, and personnel. Without the Governor’s approval. If need be, he can invoke the insurrection act which allows him to increase the functions of the military and National Guard further.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Honestly, all those employers should be punished as the law states. I have no problem with that and never had.

Sorry, did I just burst your bubble?

But they're not, are they?

 

[Tangmo]

Not nessicarilly. Hundreds of Marines were deployed during the riots in L.A. in 1992.

Army and Marine active duty units alike were deployed to LA in 1992 due to the Rodney King verdict of the goon flatfoot cops being not guilty. Active duty units deployed were the Army’s Ready Brigade of the7th Infantry Division based in central California at Fort Ord in Monterey and a battalion of Marines from I Marine Expeditionary Force based at Camp Pendleton.


From the Marine publication Leatherneck linked below....

By the time Cole and the other Marines of his regiment had gathered for formation at Pendleton’s Camp Hornoon Friday, May 1, [1992], the violence had resulted in 31 deaths, more than 1,000 injuries, and about 3,800 structure fires. With media watching, the Marines received riot control training and prepped for their entrance into the streets of LA. The approximately 1,500 Marines who deployed to LA, many of them veterans of Operation Desert Storm, were not trained to quell riots or respond to civil disturbances. Cole, the lance corporal in 3rd Battalion,1st Marines, recalls receiving a “crash course” in riot control training at the Marine air station in Tustin, where the Marines were staged before moving into the streets. With camera crews and other members of the media watching, Cole said he and the other Marines received riot gear and learned different riot control formations.


The Army and Marine active duty troops bitched and complained they didn't want to do it and hated doing it. For weeks afterward the Marines in particular griped and objected to having to do the deployment.

This deployed battalion now on the scene is the same as in 1992, of the 7th Marines of the 1st Marine division which is a unit of especially high quality. Those Marines in '92 were vocal against the deployment well after they had returned to their barracks. The Marine Corps changed their battalion commander by sending in a Lt.Col. named John Kelly as the new CO. This is the Marine Gen. retired John Kelly we know from recent times and Trump. Kelly settled the battalion down to include assurances by the Corps the unit would never again be deployed into the streets of America. I'm sure that right now Kelly remembers this well.


This is a good straightforward matter of fact account of the Marines deployment to the LA riots of 1992 published in the Leatherneck in 2020.

1992: Rioting in Los Angeles
Examining the Sequence of Events, Protocol And Ultimate Call to Send in the Marines

https://www.mca-marines.org/wp-content/uploads/1992-Riots-in-Los-Angeles.pdf

 

[MTAtech]

Trump can use Presidential Protected Power to use the military to protect federal functions, property, and personnel. Without the Governor’s approval. If need be, he can invoke the insurrection act which allows him to increase the functions of the military and National Guard further.

I was responding to you saying that it was done in 1992.

The Insurrection Act, authorizes the President to deploy military forces to suppress rebellion or domestic violence, or to enforce the law in certain situations. It's a key exception to the Posse Comitatus Act, which generally prohibits federal military personnel from engaging in civilian law enforcement.

Sans rebellion or domestic violence the Insurrection Act isn’t sanctioned.

 

[JMB1911A1]

But they're not, are they?

Not my monkey.

 

[Tangmo]

Hum, lefties were mad Trump didn’t deploy the National Guard during the Capitol riots. Make up your mind.

My post you're referencing said that in respect of the NG on J6, I supported the Acting SecDef Miller and the chairman of JCS Gen. Milley. Working as a team the two held off deployment of the Guard out of the great fear that if the Guard were sent into the thick of it Trump would try to "Trumpize" the DC Guard into his insurrection. And that the Acting SecDef Miller would have to order the Guard to execute its orders to suppress the violent insurrection. Had the Guard gone into the thick of it, and had Trump "Trumpized" the Guard into his insurrection, there would have been a Constitutional crisis between the Pentagon and the WH.

I supported Miller and Milley at the time and despite the volumes of political back and forth that obscures the decisions about the Guard since, I continue to support what Miller and Milley did. Which means your push button MAGA post changes nothing of what I know from the time that I first knew it.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

Fantasy.


"things went to hell"...

...then he pardoned the ones responsible.

The facts are posted #692. If you want to see the truth it is there.
Read it yourself: https://cha.house.gov/2024/9/transc...keep-january-6-safe-were-deliberately-ignored

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

LA and CA police are fully capable of handling the anti deportation protest demonstrations.

There is no need for almost 5000 federal troops in the tiny area that is central LA. Your constant and persistent degrading and dismissing the LAPD has no justification.

Neither do you need a ratio of 10 federal troops for each ICE goon agent. One problem is that ICE agents are not exactly neighbors when they start coming at you.

Where were they when the car/government property was being destroyed. Where were they when rocks were being thrown. Looking the other way as usual. Not doing their job as usual. Supporting criminals instead law enforcement. What a joke.

 

[Kelby]

The facts are posted #692. If you want to see the truth it is there.
Read it yourself: https://cha.house.gov/2024/9/transc...keep-january-6-safe-were-deliberately-ignored

Facts? More like a hack “report” from Trump lackey Rep Loudermilk trying to do cya for himself and Trump.

 

[Tangmo]

Where were they when the car/government property was being destroyed. Where were they when rocks were being thrown. Looking the other way as usual. Not doing their job as usual. Supporting criminals instead law enforcement. What a joke.

MAGA Boilerplate.

For years and years.

Nothing new and nothing of value.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

Army and Marine active duty units alike were deployed to LA in 1992 due to the Rodney King verdict of the goon flatfoot cops being not guilty. Active duty units deployed were the Army’s Ready Brigade of the7th Infantry Division based in central California at Fort Ord in Monterey and a battalion of Marines from I Marine Expeditionary Force based at Camp Pendleton.


From the Marine publication Leatherneck linked below....

By the time Cole and the other Marines of his regiment had gathered for formation at Pendleton’s Camp Hornoon Friday, May 1, [1992], the violence had resulted in 31 deaths, more than 1,000 injuries, and about 3,800 structure fires. With media watching, the Marines received riot control training and prepped for their entrance into the streets of LA. The approximately 1,500 Marines who deployed to LA, many of them veterans of Operation Desert Storm, were not trained to quell riots or respond to civil disturbances. Cole, the lance corporal in 3rd Battalion,1st Marines, recalls receiving a “crash course” in riot control training at the Marine air station in Tustin, where the Marines were staged before moving into the streets. With camera crews and other members of the media watching, Cole said he and the other Marines received riot gear and learned different riot control formations.


The Army and Marine active duty troops bitched and complained they didn't want to do it and hated doing it. For weeks afterward the Marines in particular griped and objected to having to do the deployment.

This deployed battalion now on the scene is the same as in 1992, of the 7th Marines of the 1st Marine division which is a unit of especially high quality. Those Marines in '92 were vocal against the deployment well after they had returned to their barracks. The Marine Corps changed their battalion commander by sending in a Lt.Col. named John Kelly as the new CO. This is the Marine Gen. retired John Kelly we know from recent times and Trump. Kelly settled the battalion down to include assurances by the Corps the unit would never again be deployed into the streets of America. I'm sure that right now Kelly remembers this well.


This is a good straightforward matter of fact account of the Marines deployment to the LA riots of 1992 published in the Leatherneck in 2020.

1992: Rioting in Los Angeles
Examining the Sequence of Events, Protocol And Ultimate Call to Send in the Marines

https://www.mca-marines.org/wp-content/uploads/1992-Riots-in-Los-Angeles.pdf

Irrelevant. I’m prior military and didn’t like all the things I was ordered to do. That doesn’t change the fact that they were there.

 

[Jagged]

The facts are posted #692. If you want to see the truth it is there.
Read it yourself: https://cha.house.gov/2024/9/transc...keep-january-6-safe-were-deliberately-ignored

It's rather odd you blame Pelosi when you post a link that shows it was actually senior leadership at the Pentagon who was to blame.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

It's rather odd you blame Pelosi when you post a link that shows it was actually senior leadership at the Pentagon who was to blame.

Pelosi never had authority to call them up OR to refuse them because SotH has never had any such authority, not over the Guard, other military, DCPD, Capitol PD or otherwise.

 

[Ouroboros]

No, and nobody claimed that. Did someone claim that all the people in Los Angeles are being charged with obstruction?

Typical Mad Lib attempt to rewrite history. When I pointed out that only a fourth of those charged in J6 were charged with obstruction, you continued to make the same argument, as if that fourth of the people charged actually proved your point, when in fact it demolished it.

Are the people in Los Angeles trying to stop the joint session of Congress from convening as the Electoral College?

Again, you think if you bang your head against the wall, the wall will give way before your head. Good luck with that.

 

[Ouroboros]

Your posts are not your self identified "Centrist."

You have no idea what a Centrist is.

I have noted that 21st century American conservatism and American 21st century fascism are synonymous.

It's a tired and routine lie meant to obscure the fact that you can't define the endgame of the sanctuary Leftists. I recall seeing one news guy trying to get some of these LA yahoos explain their goals. They couldn't do it because all they cared about was creating chaos, the better to make others bend the knee to them.

21st century conservatism equals 21st century fascism.

Yawn times ten. Why do you think it's OK for Libs to break the law? And are you really OK with keeping ICE from deporting real criminals for the sake of Poor Miguel, who just wants to send home money to his family?

 

[Ouroboros]

If Trump didn't want to instigate a riot, then he shouldn't have sent in masked agents in unmarked vans to abduct people off the street. We are seeing the natural response to that. I can only assume that Trump intended this to happen, to give him an excuse to send in the troops, like the authoritarian that he is.

You can believe that if you please, but all this stuff about masked kidnappers is a dodge. The protesters want to intimidate ICE into not doing their jobs, whether through direct violence or through doxing, and they have no reason for doing so except because they like to tell themselves they're pushing back against "fascists."

 

[Ouroboros]

There is no evidence this is occurring.



They're not rounding up criminals. They're rounding up regular people.

"No evidence?"

DHS names 'heinous criminals' arrested in LA ICE raids: What about non-violent undocumented immigrants?

The Department of Homeland Security is published the identities of the "worst criminals" arrested during ICE raids in LA, but there is a clear lack of transparency surrounding non-violent undocumented immigrants who were also taken into custody.

www.foxla.com

 

[german hick]

yeah - America is becomming a real full scale dictatorship soon. Supression of Minorities and Oposition included... - my brain cannot get how this could happen, but I´m done wondering. The rest of the democratic western world has to adjust to go without Maga America.