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Trump’s Actions Rattle the Military World: ‘I Can’t Support the Man’

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Trump’s Actions Rattle the Military World: ‘I Can’t Support the Man’

The president’s threat to use troops against largely peaceful protesters, as well as other attempts to politicize the military, have unsettled a number of current and former members and their families.

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Erin Fangmann, whose husband is in the Air Force, said that she had voted Republican all her life,
but that President Trump had “hurt the military.”

6/12/20
Erin Fangmann grew up in a military family, has been married to a captain in the Air Force for 18 years and has voted Republican all her life, including for Donald J. Trump. But as with a number of other veterans, troops and military family members who have watched the president with alarm, her support has evaporated. “He has hurt the military,” said Ms. Fangmann, who lives in Arizona, one of several states in play this November with a high percentage of veterans and active-duty service members. “Bringing in active-duty members to the streets was a test to desensitize people to his future use of the military for his personal benefit. I think the silent majority among us is going to swing away.” Many veterans and members of the military stuck with him even as he attacked the Vietnam War record of Senator John McCain, disparaged families of those killed in combat and denigrated generals whom he fired or drove from government service. But the president’s threat last week to use active-duty troops on American streets against largely peaceful protesters, and his flirtation with invoking the 1807 Insurrection Act, have rattled the military world, from its top leaders to its youngest veterans. If they break in significant numbers, they could carry political weight in key battleground states like Arizona, North Carolina and Ohio.

Many say that Mr. Trump has politicized the armed forces — which pride themselves as being above politics and discourage partisan discourse in their ranks — and has threatened the Constitution, both of which they deem as last straws. Mr. Trump’s moves to use the military against American protesters and looters came after several months of other highly unorthodox moves by his administration involving the military, including the clearing of three members of the armed services accused of war crimes; the firing of Capt. Brett E. Crozier after he raised alarms about the coronavirus on the aircraft carrier he commanded; the calling back of West Point students during a pandemic so the president could address them for a graduation; and the diversion of funds from military projects to pay for a border wall. Roughly 40 percent of active-duty service people and reserves are people of color, underlining how the current moment has affected military families. “We believe that Trump’s support within the military, with military families and with veterans, is soft and receding,” said Jon Soltz, a founder of VoteVets. “Our plan for the fall is simple: We’re putting together the most comprehensive data-driven veteran and military family get-out-the-vote operation the Democratic Party has ever seen, and we will deploy it to ensure Donald Trump is a one-term president.”
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Yet another key demographic that is pulling away from Donald Trump. His threat to use US soldiers against protesters in the cities of America was the last straw for many in the military, as was the deployment of National Guard troops around Lafayette Square near the White House which was violently cleared for a phony Trump photo-op. Since his inauguration, Trump has used the US military as a constant campaign prop, while denigrating Gold Star families and highly respected military veterans such as Sen. John McCain, Gen. James Mattis, and Adm. William McRaven. Trump also pardoned a Navy Seal war criminal against the wishes of active duty Navy Seals.
 
When Trump came to El Paso last year they pretty much shut down whatever side of city he was on and it would be the same for any president. Get over it already.
 
The President tried to trade our military for fake news of personal political benefit.
 
X Factor said:
When Trump came to El Paso last year they pretty much shut down whatever side of city he was on and it would be the same for any president. Get over it already.
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How does this relate to the OP?
 
Rexedgar said:
How does this relate to the OP?
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The part about people getting moved from where the president decided to go being the end of the world. Happened here and nothing was even on fire. :lol:
 
X Factor said:
The part about people getting moved from where the president decided to go being the end of the world. Happened here and nothing was even on fire. :lol:
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We’re the same methods used to “move” those people? El Paso and Lafayette Square, samey, samey in your opinion?
 
Rexedgar said:
We’re the same methods used to “move” those people? El Paso and Lafayette Square, samey, samey in your opinion?
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No, definitely not, because nobody refused to move. Be where the president decides to go and you’ll get moved. True for Dem presidents too.
 
as much as Trump has trashed military members on Twitter i'm surprised any military members still support him. they could certainly be next.
 
X Factor said:
When Trump came to El Paso last year they pretty much shut down whatever side of city he was on and it would be the same for any president. Get over it already.
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Probably not with tear gas and rubber bullets.
 
Trump's pardoning war criminals and leaving sick sailors stuck on an aircraft carrier probably hasn't done much yo endear Trump to members of the military.
 
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No, definitely not, because nobody refused to move. Be where the president decides to go and you’ll get moved. True for Dem presidents too.
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I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that wherever Trump visited in your town was cleared way ahead of time and not for a spur of the moment “tough, law and order and religious” photo shoot. Trump handled the Bible like it was on fire. The reviews on the Bible shoot are really good even among supporters.......:shrug:
 
Rexedgar said:
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that wherever Trump visited in your town was cleared way ahead of time and not for a spur of the moment “tough, law and order and religious” photo shoot. Trump handled the Bible like it was on fire. The reviews on the Bible shoot are really good even among supporters.......:shrug:
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The one photo I saw was cringey af and probably wasn’t worth the trouble, but neither was it a massacre.
 
X Factor said:
The one photo I saw was cringey af and probably wasn’t worth the trouble, but neither was it a massacre.
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Never mentioned “massacre.” One photo you saw? You need to get out more..........inappropriate at best/abuse of power. It’s a sliding scale.....
 
Rexedgar said:
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that wherever Trump visited in your town was cleared way ahead of time and not for a spur of the moment “tough, law and order and religious” photo shoot. Trump handled the Bible like it was on fire. The reviews on the Bible shoot are really good even among supporters.......:shrug:
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The article was powerful, having detailed several Veterans, Active Duty, Reserve, and spouses/families.
The fact they were in AZ, NC, and OH is even more powerful, all three Trump states.

Imo, Senatorial races helped Trump win in 2016.
This time GOP Senators could be in real danger due to Trump.

North Carolina isn't too happy about losing millions for the military to go build Mexico's wall.
Tell you what, NASCAR has now changed me.
Johnny Cash just now.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Trump’s Actions Rattle the Military World: ‘I Can’t Support the Man’

The president’s threat to use troops against largely peaceful protesters, as well as other attempts to politicize the military, have unsettled a number of current and former members and their families.

09military-vote-00-articleLarge-v2.jpg

Erin Fangmann, whose husband is in the Air Force, said that she had voted Republican all her life,
but that President Trump had “hurt the military.”

Yet another key demographic that is pulling away from Donald Trump. His threat to use US soldiers against protesters in the cities of America was the last straw for many in the military, as was the deployment of National Guard troops around Lafayette Square near the White House which was violently cleared for a phony Trump photo-op. Since his inauguration, Trump has used the US military as a constant campaign prop, while denigrating Gold Star families and highly respected military veterans such as Sen. John McCain, Gen. James Mattis, and Adm. William McRaven. Trump also pardoned a Navy Seal war criminal against the wishes of active duty Navy Seals.
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More fake garbage. Yawn
 
X Factor said:
No, definitely not, because nobody refused to move. Be where the president decides to go and you’ll get moved. True for Dem presidents too.
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I remember many times Obama brought in secret federal forces to attack citizens, tear gas them, for his photo ops. I'll let you list evidence of several of those incidents. The monster!
 
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