Transit strike in philly

[beerftw]

With all the outrage of comey affecting the election, little attention is given to the philly transit strike, which has shut down public transportation there. If people are not aware, in pa trump is widely popular all over the state except philly, which is also the fifth most populous city in america.

The transit strike affects the poor and lower class in that city, all the big hillary voters. This could cripple voter turnout since pa does not have early voting, and mass transit not being available could block many low income and black voters from getting to the polls.


So for all yall throwing a fit about comey or anything else affecting the election, why not try looking at something that can actually cost hillary pa.


A Transit Strike In Philly Could Lower Turnout, Especially Among Black And Poor Voters | FiveThirtyEight

 

[CanadaJohn]

This OP is wrongly placed and should be in the conspiracy forums.

That said, just what percentage of the voting public do you really think has to take public transit to vote? I'd say it's likely that voting stations are placed in such a way that upwards of 100% of the able bodied public can walk to vote. It's possible that handicapped individuals may be adversely affected - I don't know the details related to what government agency would provide them with service to the polls, but any person with two good legs and a head on their shoulders should have no problem getting to the polls if they want.

Rather than worry about a transit strike, Hillary should be worried about why voters, black voters in particular, have precious little desire to get to the polls to vote for her.

 

[beerftw]

This OP is wrongly placed and should be in the conspiracy forums.

That said, just what percentage of the voting public do you really think has to take public transit to vote? I'd say it's likely that voting stations are placed in such a way that upwards of 100% of the able bodied public can walk to vote. It's possible that handicapped individuals may be adversely affected - I don't know the details related to what government agency would provide them with service to the polls, but any person with two good legs and a head on their shoulders should have no problem getting to the polls if they want.

Rather than worry about a transit strike, Hillary should be worried about why voters, black voters in particular, have precious little desire to get to the polls to vote for her.

You do realize alot of people in philly use mass transit, and that people there do have to work right? I already know they have a polling booths all over philly, however when you rely on mass transit and it is not available, you lose alot of time in your day going to work or losing pay or even your job.

Also pa does not mandate time off to vote, so people relying on mass transit can not simply leave early to make it to polls before closing.


Oh and conspiracy theory forums really?

 

[CanadaJohn]

You do realize alot of people in philly use mass transit, and that people there do have to work right? I already know they have a polling booths all over philly, however when you rely on mass transit and it is not available, you lose alot of time in your day going to work or losing pay or even your job.

Also pa does not mandate time off to vote, so people relying on mass transit can not simply leave early to make it to polls before closing.


Oh and conspiracy theory forums really?

I know all about transit strikes, living in Toronto, before transit became an essential service barred from striking. If people can find a way to work, they can find a way back home and then walk to the polls. If they can't find a way to work, they're home all day and can walk to the polls. Concern about how people can get to work during a transit strike is a very legitimate concern and one of the reasons why public transit is an essential service in Toronto and many other major cities. Concern about getting to the polls is a motivational one - if you want to vote, you'll get there. If you don't, you won't. Period.

 

[Gladiator]

11-7-16, Monday

"A strike that paralyzed public transportation in Philadelphia for a week ended Monday when the Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (SEPTA) and a union representing almost 5,000 employees announced a deal on the eve of Election Day.

"Tentative agreement reached. We are off strike, " TWU Local 234 announced on its website."





An early win for Clinton: Transit strike ends in Philly

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[faithful_servant]

This OP is wrongly placed and should be in the conspiracy forums.

That said, just what percentage of the voting public do you really think has to take public transit to vote? I'd say it's likely that voting stations are placed in such a way that upwards of 100% of the able bodied public can walk to vote. It's possible that handicapped individuals may be adversely affected - I don't know the details related to what government agency would provide them with service to the polls, but any person with two good legs and a head on their shoulders should have no problem getting to the polls if they want.

Rather than worry about a transit strike, Hillary should be worried about why voters, black voters in particular, have precious little desire to get to the polls to vote for her.

There's teh problem. Most liberals don't think that poor people have "two good legs and a head on thier shoulders". They thin that poor people are too stupid to get ID, too stupid to get a job, too stupid to use birth control, etc., etc., etc.......

 

[JumpinJack]

I know all about transit strikes, living in Toronto, before transit became an essential service barred from striking. If people can find a way to work, they can find a way back home and then walk to the polls. If they can't find a way to work, they're home all day and can walk to the polls. Concern about how people can get to work during a transit strike is a very legitimate concern and one of the reasons why public transit is an essential service in Toronto and many other major cities. Concern about getting to the polls is a motivational one - if you want to vote, you'll get there. If you don't, you won't. Period.

Spoken like someone who leads an easy life and hasn't a clue what life is like for millions. It's not bad, but it's not easy.

It's a hardship to get anywhere if you don't have a vehicle and rely on public transportation. The weather, one's physical ability and health, time, energy after doing a physical labor job like housekeeping or janitorial services. It's unlikely many people in hard situations would go the "extra mile" to vote.

If I had had to walk to the polls, I couldn't have. Too far, as well as unsafe, since I'd be walking back home at night alone.

You need to think things through. Put yourself in someone else's place. Imagine you have a low level job and rely on transit, and then walk yourself through a day, to get a sense of the reality. Imagine you have kids, too. Think about it. We all have different situations.

The politicians know this, which is why Republicans focus on closing polling places in poor neighborhoods, cutting back on early voting time, and such. They know it cuts the votes for the Democrats.

 

[JumpinJack]

There's teh problem. Most liberals don't think that poor people have "two good legs and a head on thier shoulders". They thin that poor people are too stupid to get ID, too stupid to get a job, too stupid to use birth control, etc., etc., etc.......

A couple of courts have so far found that the Republican legislation requiring photo ID and closing down polling places in poor neighborhoods and not extending registration deadlines in the midst of a state emergency are unconstitutional and passed for the purpose of denying people their right to vote.

Not everyone leads a privileged life. It's DARK, people, when people get off work. Safety concerns. They're also tired after working all day. They also may have kids at home they can't leave, and need to feed. Some also have physical problems or health problems and can't walk that far.

People who lead an easy life should really try putting themselves in the place of those in different situations. All you have to do is care about that, and it's easy to know and understand the difficulties that others may have in a situation that you would not have.

 

[CanadaJohn]

Spoken like someone who leads an easy life and hasn't a clue what life is like for millions. It's not bad, but it's not easy.

It's a hardship to get anywhere if you don't have a vehicle and rely on public transportation. The weather, one's physical ability and health, time, energy after doing a physical labor job like housekeeping or janitorial services. It's unlikely many people in hard situations would go the "extra mile" to vote.

If I had had to walk to the polls, I couldn't have. Too far, as well as unsafe, since I'd be walking back home at night alone.

You need to think things through. Put yourself in someone else's place. Imagine you have a low level job and rely on transit, and then walk yourself through a day, to get a sense of the reality. Imagine you have kids, too. Think about it. We all have different situations.

The politicians know this, which is why Republicans focus on closing polling places in poor neighborhoods, cutting back on early voting time, and such. They know it cuts the votes for the Democrats.

Well gee, if I ever need or want to produce a litany of excuses, I sure know who to call.

I can't imagine how these people survive.

But let's cut the crap - if you live in a large city like Philadelphia, you have a polling station easily within walking distance of your home - period - no excuses, no sad sob stories about how life is hard. Voting is a citizen's responsibility. Time to get off your ass, put on your running/walking shoes, and give back to your country with your vote instead of sitting on your couch and bemoaning how hard you've got it and how much more the government should be giving to you.

I think hard working, poor people would be utterly insulted by your view of their lives and their abilities - how condescending you are of your fellow citizens. Shame on you for thinking that only those you deem "have it easy" also have the desire and the ability to get to the polls. I, personally, have far more respect and confidence in the ability of citizens of all means and circumstances to get to the polls if they choose to do so than you seem to have.

 

[RickJames3000]

There's teh problem. Most liberals don't think that poor people have "two good legs and a head on thier shoulders". They thin that poor people are too stupid to get ID, too stupid to get a job, too stupid to use birth control, etc., etc., etc.......

I apologize on behalf of all liberals for the insult.
It's definitely possible that you have two legs.

 

[beerftw]

I know all about transit strikes, living in Toronto, before transit became an essential service barred from striking. If people can find a way to work, they can find a way back home and then walk to the polls. If they can't find a way to work, they're home all day and can walk to the polls. Concern about how people can get to work during a transit strike is a very legitimate concern and one of the reasons why public transit is an essential service in Toronto and many other major cities. Concern about getting to the polls is a motivational one - if you want to vote, you'll get there. If you don't, you won't. Period.

But you are not realizing, alot of those people work, it is not getting from their home to their polling place, it is getting to work and back to their polling place in time, especilly because pa does not mandate time off to vote or allow early voting, for many it would have been a choice between voting or keeping their jobs.

 

[beerftw]

11-7-16, Monday

"A strike that paralyzed public transportation in Philadelphia for a week ended Monday when the Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (SEPTA) and a union representing almost 5,000 employees announced a deal on the eve of Election Day.

"Tentative agreement reached. We are off strike, " TWU Local 234 announced on its website."





An early win for Clinton: Transit strike ends in Philly

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I am glad they settled it last second, I actually want trump to win, but I do not want to hear for the next six months if hillary loses pa about it being rigged or trump bribing unions or whatever, we already have enough drama this election.

 

[manise]

I am glad they settled it last second, I actually want trump to win, but I do not want to hear for the next six months if hillary loses pa about it being rigged or trump bribing unions or whatever, we already have enough drama this election.

Actually, if Hillary wins PA, it will be Trump and many of his supporters who will used the "rigged" excuse. Trump uses the word in nearly every speech, including the several he gave today. The crowd goes wild when they hear it.

 

[beerftw]

Actually, if Hillary wins PA, it will be Trump and many of his supporters who will used the "rigged" excuse. Trump uses the word in nearly every speech, including the several he gave today. The crowd goes wild when they hear it.

If the transit strike held, it would have been democrats crying, since the vast landmass of the state supports trump, but the population epicenter supports hllary. The transit strike was in the population center which was philly, which would have only hurt hillary votes.

 

[manise]

If the transit strike held, it would have been democrats crying, since the vast landmass of the state supports trump, but the population epicenter supports hllary. The transit strike was in the population center which was philly, which would have only hurt hillary votes.

I have no doubt that Democrats and others who oppose Trump in Philadelphia would have raised a huge fuss over a transit strike on Election Day. However, given that transit unions don't love Trump and the City of Philadelphia leadership loves him even less, I think the fuss would be of the "why are you sabotaging Clinton; are you stupid or dumb?" variety, and not necessarily a "Trump conspiracy with the leaders of Philadelphia." In this general election, it is the Republicans and others who support Trump who have played the "rigged election" card on a daily basis. Hence, the strike was resolved in a timely manner.

 

[beerftw]

I have no doubt that Democrats and others who oppose Trump in Philadelphia would have raised a huge fuss over a transit strike on Election Day. However, given that transit unions don't love Trump and the City of Philadelphia leadership loves him even less, I think the fuss would be of the "why are you sabotaging Clinton; are you stupid or dumb?" variety, and not necessarily a "Trump conspiracy with the leaders of Philadelphia." In this general election, it is the Republicans and others who support Trump who have played the "rigged election" card on a daily basis. Hence, the strike was resolved in a timely manner.

The strike was not resolved very timely, it started on october 28th, and only hit national news because it was going to interfere with the election. They came to a resolve last second, which is better than running through election day, but it could have been resolved earlier.

Philly does not love trump, but it would not stop constant whining if he had won due to lower turnout in philly. You have to remember, democrats to this day are still crying about 2000 and calling it rigged, but somehow they could not ever possibly complain about this?

 

[d0gbreath]

With all the outrage of comey affecting the election, little attention is given to the philly transit strike, which has shut down public transportation there. If people are not aware, in pa trump is widely popular all over the state except philly, which is also the fifth most populous city in america.

The transit strike affects the poor and lower class in that city, all the big hillary voters. This could cripple voter turnout since pa does not have early voting, and mass transit not being available could block many low income and black voters from getting to the polls.


So for all yall throwing a fit about comey or anything else affecting the election, why not try looking at something that can actually cost hillary pa.


A Transit Strike In Philly Could Lower Turnout, Especially Among Black And Poor Voters | FiveThirtyEight

The Montgomery bus boycott was enforced by 99% of African-Americans. They walked for almost a year before the court decided in their favor. Fortitude.

 

[manise]

The strike was not resolved very timely, it started on october 28th, and only hit national news because it was going to interfere with the election. They came to a resolve last second, which is better than running through election day, but it could have been resolved earlier.

Philly does not love trump, but it would not stop constant whining if he had won due to lower turnout in philly. You have to remember, democrats to this day are still crying about 2000 and calling it rigged, but somehow they could not ever possibly complain about this?

When I said "timely" I meant before Election Day. No transit strike is desirable even for a day, much less one that could radically affect a swing state election. The powers-that-be in Philadelphia, be they union or city leaders, understood why the strike needed resolution before today. That is "timely" and rational.

As for "rigged," I only stated that in this election the only people using that word are Trump and many of his supporters. Some Democrats in Philly would certainly feel robbed if a transit strike negatively affected the results of today's election. Then again, they would have to explain why and how some of the nation's fiercest Trump haters, Philly unions and city leadership, would conspire with the orange faced menace in such a conspiracy. The far more likely scenario involves Trump supporters citing "voting irregularities" in "certain communities" that cost Trump the PA election. I have no doubt that the word "rigged" will be a used often in that case, as it has been all election season by Trump folks.