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Transgender Operations boast a 100% Failure Rate!

LittleNipper said:
It is not at all possible to change your sex and many physicians are are coming to the realization that transgender operations are akin to Lobotomies ---- which are no longer performed in civilized nations:
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What is you opinion of (other) cosmetic surgery?
 
LittleNipper said:
It is not at all possible to change your sex and many physicians are are coming to the realization that transgender operations are akin to Lobotomies ---- which are no longer performed in civilized nations:
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I'm sorry present technology doesn't allow you to become a woman to your satisfaction.

Take heart, they are making new breakthroughs every day!
 
WillyPete said:
I'm sorry present technology doesn't allow you to become a woman to your satisfaction.

Take heart, they are making new breakthroughs every day!
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What we have here is a right wing sjw. When it comes down to it I don't care that people opt to have plastic surgery. I think of this should be 18 but that's really a different topic.
 
Loulit01 said:
Yeah, no.

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A Guide to Gender Affirmation Surgery

Gender affirmation surgeries are done to link physical features to a person's gender identity. Learn more about the many surgery options.
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And yeah, no - they don't actually change men into women or women into men.

All such surgeries do is help the poor individual "feel" more like . . . whatever.

But surgically modifying one's face, breasts, genitals to RESEMBLE those of the opposite sex will never - repeat, NEVER enable either to perform the same functions as normal men and women can perform.

Trans "men" will never be able to impregnate a woman and a trans "woman" will never be able to bear a child.

All these surgeries really do is give some semblance of pseudo mental "comfort" with physical modifications to their bodies, to those homosexuals who want to make their homosexual feelings somehow more "real" and legitimate.

In the end, placating the mental and psychological struggles of these individuals by helping them pretend something is real that isn't real at all is not helping them at all; indeed, it's doing even more damage to their psyche than has already been done. It's not compassionate; it's downright destructive.
 
LittleNipper said:
It is not at all possible to change your sex and many physicians are are coming to the realization that transgender operations are akin to Lobotomies ---- which are no longer performed in civilized nations:
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This is an opinion piece, and it is not accurate.
 
EdwinWillers said:
And yeah, no - they don't actually change men into women or women into men.
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No kidding?
EdwinWillers said:
All such surgeries do is help the poor individual "feel" more like . . . whatever.
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That's what they're supposed to do.
EdwinWillers said:
But surgically modifying one's face, breasts, genitals to RESEMBLE those of the opposite sex will never - repeat, NEVER enable either to perform the same functions as normal men and women can perform.
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Shocking.
EdwinWillers said:
Trans "men" will never be able to impregnate a woman and a trans "woman" will never be able to bear a child.
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Really, I had no idea.
EdwinWillers said:
All these surgeries really do is give some semblance of pseudo mental "comfort" with physical modifications to their bodies, to those homosexuals who want to make their homosexual feelings somehow more "real" and legitimate.
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How do you know?
EdwinWillers said:
In the end, placating the mental and psychological struggles of these individuals by helping them pretend something is real that isn't real at all is not helping them at all; indeed, it's doing even more damage to their psyche than has already been done. It's not compassionate; it's downright destructive.
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Bullshit.
 
Loulit01 said:
No kidding?

That's what they're supposed to do.

Shocking.

Really, I had no idea.

How do you know?

Bullshit.
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You were doing great until the end. smh
 
LittleNipper said:
It is not at all possible to change your sex and many physicians are are coming to the realization that transgender operations are akin to Lobotomies ---- which are no longer performed in civilized nations:
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The woman in the video has a degree in Business Administration and law. She is not an expert, does not have any training or education on the topic, and therefore I could not give a shit about her opinion on the topic. When I want to know about health issues, I go to a doctor, for mental health a psychiatrist/psychologist, and for legal issues, a lawyer. You should probably learn the difference between them.
 
HonestJoe said:
What is you opinion of (other) cosmetic surgery?
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GRS is far from being cosmetic surgery. Don't encourage transphobes and their strawman claims.

EdwinWillers said:
And yeah, no - they don't actually change men into women or women into men.

All such surgeries do is help the poor individual "feel" more like . . . whatever.

But surgically modifying one's face, breasts, genitals to RESEMBLE those of the opposite sex will never - repeat, NEVER enable either to perform the same functions as normal men and women can perform.

Trans "men" will never be able to impregnate a woman and a trans "woman" will never be able to bear a child.

All these surgeries really do is give some semblance of pseudo mental "comfort" with physical modifications to their bodies, to those homosexuals who want to make their homosexual feelings somehow more "real" and legitimate.

In the end, placating the mental and psychological struggles of these individuals by helping them pretend something is real that isn't real at all is not helping them at all; indeed, it's doing even more damage to their psyche than has already been done. It's not compassionate; it's downright destructive.
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Maybe before you shoot your mouth off about what you obviously have no understanding of you might want to learn the difference between gender identity and sexual orientation. Trans people can be LGB, heterosexual or even asexual but you didn't know that. Given your posts on this subject it doesn't appear that you have a functional understanding of gender idneity.


2.) No Dr or psychologist in the world tells a patient that having the 5-7 hours hours surgical procedure of GRS is the cure. Its only one part of the multiyear process to treat gender dysphoria, but you are not aware of this because all you know ate the ignorant claim that Fox and others have been feeding their transphobic followers for the past 3 years.

3.) The surgery is far from being cosmetic. It is very functional and the patient is able to lubricate, orgasm and obviously urinate. Some surgeons do it is one step and some do it in two steps, about 6 weeks apart.


4.) Where do you get a postgraduate degree in psychologist or a MD? Where did you do your residency if you are going to claim to know so much about the subject?
 
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Napoleon said:
If someone wants to join the great race as an adult to see who can look most like a Picasso then go for it. But leave the kids alone.
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Nobody is hurting kids and you cant prove otherwise. You should start to tell the truth, even only occasionally. You should stop the dog whistle of calling people child abusers and groomers.
 
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EdwinWillers said:
Trans "men" will never be able to impregnate a woman and a trans "woman" will never be able to bear a child.
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So... I guess that sterile men are not men?

Infertile women are not women?

Post-menopausal women are not women?

Pre-pubescent girls, who can't get pregnant, are not female?

EdwinWillers said:
All these surgeries really do is give some semblance of pseudo mental "comfort" with physical modifications to their bodies, to those homosexuals who want to make their homosexual feelings somehow more "real" and legitimate.
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:LOL:

What, do you still think it's 1953 or something? Lesbians, gays and bisexuals don't need surgery to feel "legitimate."

Back in the real world, there's tons of evidence that this is about gender, not sexual orientation. There is probably a biological basis for transgenderism as well. (Not that it matters to the bigots.)

EdwinWillers said:
In the end, placating the mental and psychological struggles of these individuals by helping them pretend something is real that isn't real at all is not helping them at all; indeed, it's doing even more damage to their psyche than has already been done. It's not compassionate; it's downright destructive.
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Yeah, too bad that actual research on actual transgender individuals shows the opposite.
 
Lisa said:
GRS is far from being cosmetic surgery. Don't encourage transphobes and their strawman claims.


Maybe before you shoot your mouth off about what you obviously have no understanding of you might want to learn the difference between gender identity and sexual orientation. Trans people can be LGB, heterosexual or even asexual but you didn't know that. Given your posts on this subject it doesn't appear that you have a functional understanding of gender identity.


2.) No Dr or psychologist in the world tells a patient that having the 5-7 hours hours surgical procedure of GRS is the cure. Its only one part of the multiyear process to treat gender dysphoria, but you are not aware of this because all you know ate the ignorant claim that Fox and others have been feeding their transphobic followers for the past 3 years.

3.) The surgery is far from being cosmetic. It is very functional and the patient is able to lubricate, orgasm and obviously urinate. Some surgeons do it is one step and some do it in two steps, about 6 weeks apart.


4.) Where do you get a postgraduate degree in psychologist or a MD? Where did you do your residency if you are going to claim to know so much about the subject?
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Agreed. And I completely support your response to a clearly uniformed poster who is evidently obsessed with trans people.

Sexual orientation distribution[edit]​

In the United States, transgender respondents to one 2015 survey self-identified as queer (21%), pansexual (18%), gay, lesbian, or same-gender-loving (16%), straight (15%), bisexual (14%), and asexual (10%).[3] A second study found 23% reported being gay, lesbian, or same-gender-loving, 25% bisexual, 4% asexual, 23% queer, 23% straight and 2% something else.[4]

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Transgender sexuality - Wikipedia

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LittleNipper said:
It is not at all possible to change your sex and many physicians are are coming to the realization that transgender operations are akin to Lobotomies ---- which are no longer performed in civilized nations:
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This should not be news to anyone. I have been arguing this since it became a public issue.

All these surgeries are doing is making a "cosmetic change" while basically sterilizing and physically damaging both male and female sufferers of this mental issue. Moreover, it may have other detrimental effects on their general health, both mental and physical. We've seen a number of victims coming out publicly to condemn the practices which have scarred them for life.
 
Captain Adverse said:
This should not be news to anyone. I have been arguing this since it became a public issue.

All these surgeries are doing is making a "cosmetic change" while basically sterilizing and physically damaging both male and female sufferers of this mental issue. Moreover, it may have other detrimental effects on their general health, both mental and physical. We've seen a number of victims coming out publicly to condemn the practices which have scarred them for life.
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Tell me more about about your supposed expertise on this subject matter. I can prove your claims wrong but I'd rather watch you stick your foot in your mouth. Its far more fun.
 
Captain Adverse said:
This should not be news to anyone. I have been arguing this since it became a public issue.

All these surgeries are doing is making a "cosmetic change" while basically sterilizing and physically damaging both male and female sufferers of this mental issue. Moreover, it may have other detrimental effects on their general health, both mental and physical. We've seen a number of victims coming out publicly to condemn the practices which have scarred them for life.
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This is not a "mental issue", as you prefer to call it. Do some research before you decide to weigh in. Now, go ahead and tell me how you defend your choice of words.. "mental issues" vs. "mental illness". You are predictable and I'm ready.

Being transgender is not a mental illness. But people who are transgender face unique challenges, such as gender dysphoria and discrimination, which can affect their mental health. Getting support and assistance from a qualified provider can bring healing and help you live a healthier, more fulfilling life.

my.clevelandclinic.org

Medical Questions & Answers | Cleveland Clinic

Find answers to your health questions from experts you can trust. It's like having a friend who's a doctor — but here for you 24/7.
my.clevelandclinic.org my.clevelandclinic.org
 
dseag2 said:
This is not a "mental issue", as you prefer to call it. Do some research before you decide to weigh in. Now, go ahead and tell me how you defend your choice of words.. "mental issues" vs. "mental illness". You are predictable and I'm ready.

Being transgender is not a mental illness. But people who are transgender face unique challenges, such as gender dysphoria and discrimination, which can affect their mental health. Getting support and assistance from a qualified provider can bring healing and help you live a healthier, more fulfilling life.

my.clevelandclinic.org

Medical Questions & Answers | Cleveland Clinic

Find answers to your health questions from experts you can trust. It's like having a friend who's a doctor — but here for you 24/7.
my.clevelandclinic.org my.clevelandclinic.org
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How is gender dysphoria not a mental disorder? Don't you need support from a behavioral therapist of some sort?
 
dseag2 said:
This is not a "mental issue", as you prefer to call it. Do some research before you decide to weigh in. Now, go ahead and tell me how you defend your choice of words.. "mental issues" vs. "mental illness". You are predictable and I'm ready.

Being transgender is not a mental illness. But people who are transgender face unique challenges, such as gender dysphoria and discrimination, which can affect their mental health. Getting support and assistance from a qualified provider can bring healing and help you live a healthier, more fulfilling life.

my.clevelandclinic.org

Medical Questions & Answers | Cleveland Clinic

Find answers to your health questions from experts you can trust. It's like having a friend who's a doctor — but here for you 24/7.
my.clevelandclinic.org my.clevelandclinic.org
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I don't have to accept your citation of "the clevelandclinical.org" as a valid source. They are part of the group of mental health, pharmaceutical, and medical organizations who have a "profit motive" for pushing this nonsense.

IMO it is better to be treated as a mental health issue, dealt with via counseling and true "gender affirming care" designed to affirm their biological gender.

Now to preclude your possible interjection using "intersex" deviations, in those cases it may have psychological merit to perform operations and administer hormones.

But because that tiny fraction of birth defects (like people being born with multiple limbs, no limbs, or other birth defects) might do well with the use of hormones and operations, this does not necessarily apply to physically normal individuals who are experiencing mental issues of dysphoria.

Especially children and young adults.
 
Captain Adverse said:
I don't have to accept your citation of "the clevelandclinical.org" as a valid source. They are part of the group of mental health, pharmaceutical, and medical organizations who have a "profit motive" for pushing this nonsense.

IMO it is better to be treated as a mental health issue, dealt with via counseling and true "gender affirming care" designed to affirm their biological gender.

Now to preclude your possible interjection using "intersex" deviations, in those cases it may have psychological merit to perform operations and administer hormones.

But because that tiny fraction of birth defects (like people being born with multiple limbs, no limbs, or other birth defects) might do well with the use of hormones and operations, this does not necessarily apply to physically normal individuals who are experiencing mental issues of dysphoria.

Especially children and young adults.
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The idea of trying to affirm their biological gender is a euphemism for conversation therapy. That is banned in many states because it is dangerous and it does not work. There is absolutely no counseling that can successfully treat gender dysphoria. The DSM 5 s very clear on this matter. Your ideas would result in being sued for malpractice and threatening a patients life.
 
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