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Trans kids on the Republican bills targeting them: 'I'm not a problem to society'

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Here are some kids who speak in their own words about the challenges thrown at them by politicians who are worried more about these kids' genitals and less about these kids' livelihoods:

 
Here are some kids who speak in their own words about the challenges thrown at them by politicians who are worried more about these kids' genitals and less about these kids' livelihoods:


Nobody has a problem with the kids, they do have a problem with the asshats pushing the kids and destroying other people while they are at it.

If people are biological male and they are competing in women's sports they're an ass. I don't care how many steroids or blockers or if they cut their nuts. Women's sports are there specifically for women not some jackass who thinks he is one. If women who think they are men want to play with the boys they can do so on equal footing, exact same as the boys. They shouldn't whine about getting their asses kicked when they inevitably do.

Men who cut their nuts off are called eunuchs by the way. They have been around awhile.

People should not be pushing children into permanent decisions they may regret later in life. People should make that decision after they have had time to live a bit and become an adult and lived at least a small bit of adult life. Then if they are convinced, then that's on them as an adult to make the decision and take responsibility for it. Transgenderism has become become a fad of sorts. It's pathetic really. Apparently being oneself and living with what one is, it's somehow forbidden today. I got beat but good with the ugly stick, being ugly it ain't easy. I could get all sorts of doctors to claim to make me "pretty". If I can't live with myself now, how do I live with myself when I am pretty? I know plenty of pretty people who can't hack it in life near as well as me. One plays the hand they're dealt. Sometimes the good parts of the hand one's dealt don't make themselves known till later on in the game when the river cards come into play.
 
Here are some kids who speak in their own words about the challenges thrown at them by politicians who are worried more about these kids' genitals and less about these kids' livelihoods:

The demonization of trans people is just awful.
 
Nobody has a problem with the kids, they do have a problem with the asshats pushing the kids and destroying other people while they are at it.

You obviously didn't read these kids' stories. They just want to be their own authentic selves. Why do you anti-trans people want to legislate against that simply because of what these kids have between their legs?
 
Conservatives don't care if someone is a problem to society.

If they are different from the 1950s ideal of a white family, the conservatives will attack them.
 
Republicans once again regulating people's "pursuit of happiness" rights away because their minister says it's wrong, when in reality it is none of their damn business...
 
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I'm against the whole trans movement because:
1) It is being pushed on me without allowing for any debate.
2) It just isn't fair what is happening with female sports.
3) Too many people are allowing kids a too young an age to make decisions that they aren't ready to make. WE don't allow a 10 year old to sign a contract, but they can decide their sex?

I'm not against any individual trans person, but the whole "movement" just isn't doing what it takes to be taken seriously.
 
Nobody has a problem with the kids, they do have a problem with the asshats pushing the kids and destroying other people while they are at it.

If people are biological male and they are competing in women's sports they're an ass. I don't care how many steroids or blockers or if they cut their nuts. Women's sports are there specifically for women not some jackass who thinks he is one. If women who think they are men want to play with the boys they can do so on equal footing, exact same as the boys. They shouldn't whine about getting their asses kicked when they inevitably do.

Men who cut their nuts off are called eunuchs by the way. They have been around awhile.

People should not be pushing children into permanent decisions they may regret later in life. People should make that decision after they have had time to live a bit and become an adult and lived at least a small bit of adult life. Then if they are convinced, then that's on them as an adult to make the decision and take responsibility for it. Transgenderism has become become a fad of sorts. It's pathetic really. Apparently being oneself and living with what one is, it's somehow forbidden today. I got beat but good with the ugly stick, being ugly it ain't easy. I could get all sorts of doctors to claim to make me "pretty". If I can't live with myself now, how do I live with myself when I am pretty? I know plenty of pretty people who can't hack it in life near as well as me. One plays the hand they're dealt. Sometimes the good parts of the hand one's dealt don't make themselves known till later on in the game when the river cards come into play.


Where do you get this nonsense?

Nobody has a problem with the kids, they do have a problem with the asshats pushing the kids and destroying other people while they are at it.

If people are biological male and they are competing in women's sports they're an ass. I don't care how many steroids or blockers or if they cut their nuts. Women's sports are there specifically for women not some jackass who thinks he is one. If women who think they are men want to play with the boys they can do so on equal footing, exact same as the boys. They shouldn't whine about getting their asses kicked when they inevitably do.

Trans females or trans males are females and males respectively and cannot be discriminated against because of your inability to understand medical science that goes beyond looking between a person's legs for a penis or vagina.

Adults are pushing children to be trans, despite the narrative coming from the conservative echo chamber.

I'm against the whole trans movement because:
1) It is being pushed on me without allowing for any debate.
2) It just isn't fair what is happening with female sports.
3) Too many people are allowing kids a too young an age to make decisions that they aren't ready to make. WE don't allow a 10 year old to sign a contract, but they can decide their sex?

I'm not against any individual trans person, but the whole "movement" just isn't doing what it takes to be taken seriously.
The existence of others is not for your to decide. You don't get a choice on the fact that they exist openly as equals to you and anyone else.

What is being pushed on you? The fact that they resist as equals to you? Trans people have existed since the beginning of human civilization.
 
Nobody has a problem with the kids, they do have a problem with the asshats pushing the kids and destroying other people while they are at it.

If people are biological male and they are competing in women's sports they're an ass. I don't care how many steroids or blockers or if they cut their nuts. Women's sports are there specifically for women not some jackass who thinks he is one. If women who think they are men want to play with the boys they can do so on equal footing, exact same as the boys. They shouldn't whine about getting their asses kicked when they inevitably do.

Men who cut their nuts off are called eunuchs by the way. They have been around awhile.

People should not be pushing children into permanent decisions they may regret later in life. People should make that decision after they have had time to live a bit and become an adult and lived at least a small bit of adult life. Then if they are convinced, then that's on them as an adult to make the decision and take responsibility for it. Transgenderism has become become a fad of sorts. It's pathetic really. Apparently being oneself and living with what one is, it's somehow forbidden today. I got beat but good with the ugly stick, being ugly it ain't easy. I could get all sorts of doctors to claim to make me "pretty". If I can't live with myself now, how do I live with myself when I am pretty? I know plenty of pretty people who can't hack it in life near as well as me. One plays the hand they're dealt. Sometimes the good parts of the hand one's dealt don't make themselves known till later on in the game when the river cards come into play.
That's way to logical and rational of an opinion. (y)
 
Republicans once again regulating people's "pursuit of happiness" rights away because their minister says it's wrong, when in reality it is none of their damn business...
They are repeating the very same arguments that social conservatives used to oppose the integration of sports in the 1950-60s.

LBJ was right about these people. Change colored to immigrant, liberal, gay, trans or non-Christian and the idea is the very same.
President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."


The GOP doesn't have any rational economic or domestic policies so instead, they have decided to stir up culture wars that didn't affect them.
 
I'm actually fine with a transmale playing in female sports. If female sports is okay with it, then why shouldn't I be okay with it? I get both sides of the issue, but really it's women's sports and the players who have to make the decision and live with it. So whatever they deem is okay, is also okay with me.
 
The GOP doesn't have any rational economic or domestic policies so instead, they have decided to stir up culture wars that didn't affect them.
Liberals hate it when the GOP doesn't respect women, and then they hate it when the GOP tries to help keep women's sports honest.

Make up your minds!!!
 
Liberals hate it when the GOP doesn't respect women, and then they hate it when the GOP tries to help keep women's sports honest.

Make up your minds!!!

I wish RW folks would keep it honest. They are in this for their own political purposes. They are not concerned with "keeping women's sports honest"
 
Liberals hate it when the GOP doesn't respect women, and then they hate it when the GOP tries to help keep women's sports honest.

Make up your minds!!!
Are trans females not females? The GOP doesn't care about women's or women's sports. This is just another opportunity to attack a minority and the target of choice for the GOP is transgdered females.

You forget that trans males exist and if trans females must compete as males then trans males must compete as females. Do you think that CIS women are going to compete on an even level with trans guys who have a male level of testosterone in their body as part of the transition process? You also forget that trams male exist when your conservative outrage-du-jour was thee bathroom bills.

The idea that this is about women's sports is about as true as watching republicans who had had multiple affairs and divorces claim that LGBT marriage equality attacked the sanctity of marriage.

Why don't you just leave them alone and do something useful like supporting the violence against women act, supporting the voting rights act, support subsidized higher education, universal healthcare, raise the minimum wage, or deal with the homeless issue in a way that doesn't criminalize people for being homeless.
 
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Where do you get this nonsense?



Trans females or trans males are females and males respectively and cannot be discriminated against because of your inability to understand medical science that goes beyond looking between a person's legs for a penis or vagina.

Adults are pushing children to be trans, despite the narrative coming from the conservative echo chamber.


The existence of others is not for your to decide. You don't get a choice on the fact that they exist openly as equals to you and anyone else.

What is being pushed on you? The fact that they resist as equals to you? Trans people have existed since the beginning of human civilization.

I think you meant to say that adults are NOT pushing. ;)
 
I'm actually fine with a transmale playing in female sports. If female sports is okay with it, then why shouldn't I be okay with it? I get both sides of the issue, but really it's women's sports and the players who have to make the decision and live with it. So whatever they deem is okay, is also okay with me.

It is interesting that not a single transphobe has whined about trans boys and men competing in sports...yet. It's pretty obvious why: They think that cis men are physically stronger than cis women. While this is true overall, the implication is clear: As long as trans people remain subservient to cis people, these transphobes are satisfied. Be sure to grab them a fainting couch when that discrimination ends.
 
I think you meant to say that adults are NOT pushing. ;)
You're obviously correct. A parent cannot make a child transgendered nor can they take a child to a Dr and tell them to make their little girl a little boy because they are supposedly "woke", whatever that means.
 
You're obviously correct. A parent cannot make a child transgendered nor can they take a child to a Dr and tell them to make their little girl a little boy because they are supposedly "woke", whatever that means.

I personally know a few people who are trans. At least one of them knew from a VERY early age. Thankfully that one has very supportive parents--one of the single most important factors determining success for a trans child.
 
I personally know a few people who are trans. At least one of them knew from a VERY early age. Thankfully that one has very supportive parents--one of the single most important factors determining success for a trans child.
You are very correct again. A strong support structure is critical for their happiness and survival.

The idea that a normal CIS child would somehow choose to be trans and often be ostracised from most of society, jobs, medical care and live a marginalized existence without rights is about as absurd as someone would choose to be blind or paraplegic. Trans people are born trans, but somehow they are assumed to be CIS and harassed and discriminated against and/or abused when they come out.


Today is a transgendered day of visability.
March 31 is the International Transgender Day of Visibility.

Trans Day of Visibility is an annual awareness day celebrated around the world. The day is dedicated to celebrating the accomplishments of transgender and gender nonconforming people while raising awareness of the work that still needs to be done to achieve trans justice.
Right now, members of school communities can take these actions to help create trans-inclusive school environments, using these resources available for download:
 
It is interesting that not a single transphobe has whined about trans boys and men competing in sports...yet. It's pretty obvious why: They think that cis men are physically stronger than cis women. While this is true overall, the implication is clear: As long as trans people remain subservient to cis people, these transphobes are satisfied. Be sure to grab them a fainting couch when that discrimination ends.
Subservient how?
 
I'm against the whole trans movement because:
1) It is being pushed on me without allowing for any debate.
2) It just isn't fair what is happening with female sports.
3) Too many people are allowing kids a too young an age to make decisions that they aren't ready to make. WE don't allow a 10 year old to sign a contract, but they can decide their sex?

I'm not against any individual trans person, but the whole "movement" just isn't doing what it takes to be taken seriously.
Debates are ****in happening all the time. If you are a trans person you get shit on and dehumanized by a world famous author and have entire media apparatuses dehumanize you daily so thats where many come from.

the trans panic is still a legal defense in many areas and you get called a potential rapist.
 
The most toxic conversation you will ever have on this issue is not with a conservative but with a TERF.
 
Here are some kids who speak in their own words about the challenges thrown at them by politicians who are worried more about these kids' genitals and less about these kids' livelihoods:

Boys that transition into girls should not be allowed to play on girl's teams... the rest is just stupid. Let them be girls.
You obviously didn't read these kids' stories. They just want to be their own authentic selves. Why do you anti-trans people want to legislate against that simply because of what these kids have between their legs?
But their authentic selves are not the girl's that they want to be.
 
Republicans once again regulating people's "pursuit of happiness" rights away because their minister says it's wrong, when in reality it is none of their damn business...
I am not conservative but I have seen boys who trans into girls absolutely destroy regular girls. It is not close to fair. There are some people that love sports but can't play because they have a grass Allergy... well, these kids have something like that that will keep them off the field too... nothing is fair about it either way.
 
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