Top DOJ Official Defends New Memorandum on Targeting Parents

[GummyVitamins]

3 charged after threatening Tucson principal with arrest, zip ties over COVID-19 rules

Three men confronted the Mesquite Elementary School principal, one holding a zip tie, after one of their children was told to quarantine.

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That's horrific behavior, but what does this have to do with the DOJ and FBI?

 

[BlueTex]

That's horrific behavior, but what does this have to do with the FBI and DOJ?

It sounds like they conspired to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution. Would you agree?

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

Yes, school board members are being yelled at.

School board members are also being sent death threats.

So they say but they also say citizens arrest threats are death threats so ill consider the laughable source.


If actual death threats were received by phone email note under door etc those should be investigated like any crime. That however has nothing to do with school board meetings and using the FBI and DOJ to intimidate and shut up angry parents.

 

[SCrider]

So you support crazy parents threatening school board members for doing their jobs?
Wow.

Pretty much says it all right there.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

No, I don't. I just want to see some credible evidence, not opinion, that death threats were issued. As of yet, I have seen none.

The news articles where school board members and local police reference death threats will just have to suffice for the time being.

And then when the indictments come down you can argue about the deep state being mean to Trump supporters, and how there isn't enough evidence. And Garland is a liberal hack being mean to poor old Trump supporters.

And then when the convictions come down you can argue about how the jury and the judge were a bunch of leftist deep state infiltrators marxist socialist something Obama something something something.

And then when the penalties are applied and these spiteful, belligerent, violent Trump supporters are sent to prison you can argue about how people who threatened to kill school board members are the true victims, the victims of the judicial system is being unfair to people who were just engaged in the equivalent of a college kegger.

And so on and so forth.

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

Did they conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution?

Not a death threat and arguable in court as to it's legality.

 

[Luce]

Not a death threat and arguable in court as to it's legality.

Describe where your expertise comes from, please.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

So they say but they also say citizens arrest threats are death threats so ill consider the laughable source.

Have you been to a school board meeting? These are just regular people trying to help out their community. Why would they lie? These people are your neighbors. Get real.

You think these school board members and local police are a "laughable" source? Get real.

If actual death threats were received by phone email note under door etc those should be investigated like any crime. That however has nothing to do with school board meetings

So you think when a school board member receives a death threat about vaccine mandates or mask mandates involving a school district, that it has nothing to do with the school board?

That does not make any sense.

You are not making any sense.

and using the FBI and DOJ to intimidate and shut up angry parents.

Angry parents do NOT have the right to threaten ANYONE with death or with violence.

That's the bottom line. And when some hateful spiteful Trump supporter crosses the line and makes a death threat, they need to be held to account. Just like anyone. Trump supporters are not special. They have to abide by the law.

It's okay to be angry. It's okay to be pissed. It's not okay to threaten people with violence.

That's the bottom line.

They can't do it. They don't have the right to threaten people with violence.

 

[pnut]

Top DOJ Official Defends New Memorandum on Targeting Parents

www.theepochtimes.com

For starters it's a good thing that turd Garland was never given a roach's chance in Hell of sitting on the court. Second, he needs to be investigate for even thinking about targeting parents.

https://www.justice.gov/ag/page/file/1438986/download

When's that hypocrite going to investigate people who harass public officials who don't tow the Democratic party line? How about investigating Maxine Waters who promoted violence against conservatives everywhere? You want to talk about harassment, well let's do it. How about investigating "mostly peaceful" BLM/Antifa terrorists burning down cities? Is that harassment or threats of violence, or not? Anyone that ****s with the leftwing agenda of child indoctrination will be investigated and prosecuted for interfering with the state. Candidate McAuliffe already say that parents have no right to tell that schools what to teach. This is the socialist mentality of the Left; weaponize the DoJ to act as its minions.

Like everything democrats do, this is a case of follow the money. Merrick Garland's son-in-law is Xan Tanner. He operates a company called Panorama Education which is backed by guess who? Zuckerberg. https://www.topionetworks.com/companies/panorama-education-55c1e394b2c94adc550014c1

The company provides education materials to schools K through 12. The material is all left leaning, of course.

 

[BlueTex]

Not a death threat and arguable in court as to it's legality.

I didn't ask about a death threat.. The question was real simple.. Did they conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution?

 

[tres borrachos]

Wow, new respect for Mitch McConnell. This so-called "moderate" would have been a disaster on the Supreme Court. Now he's threatening free speech?

So death threats are considered "free speech", huh?

 

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Top DOJ Official Defends New Memorandum on Targeting Parents

www.theepochtimes.com

For starters it's a good thing that turd Garland was never given a roach's chance in Hell of sitting on the court. Second, he needs to be investigate for even thinking about targeting parents.

https://www.justice.gov/ag/page/file/1438986/download

When's that hypocrite going to investigate people who harass public officials who don't tow the Democratic party line? How about investigating Maxine Waters who promoted violence against conservatives everywhere? You want to talk about harassment, well let's do it. How about investigating "mostly peaceful" BLM/Antifa terrorists burning down cities? Is that harassment or threats of violence, or not? Anyone that ****s with the leftwing agenda of child indoctrination will be investigated and prosecuted for interfering with the state. Candidate McAuliffe already say that parents have no right to tell that schools what to teach. This is the socialist mentality of the Left; weaponize the DoJ to act as its minions.

Claims of death threats mean nothing. Show me some evidence. Where's the video of angry moms at school board meetings threatening death?

Don't be silly. Do you think school board members are sending the evidence to me to investigate? Why do you think I would have any evidence?

The school board members are referring all of these death threats and threats of violence to local law enforcement. I don't have access to all the police reports, man. Why are you being so silly about this?

And, yes, I am accepting the news articles as being true. There is no reason for us to doubt them. Why would hundreds of random school board members from across the country collectively make this up and invent stories of death threats? That doesn't make any sense.

It's a plot to make white supremacists and other fascists look bad. Trump exposed the Russian Hoax as a fake, deep state conspiracy to make him look bad and now Durham is making his way up the chain of conspirators...

Much easier to imagine a plot of MSM, Soros, all dems and a big percentage of independents teamed up with Antifa-BLM to
make Trump and his deplorables look bad than to consider the alternative, that they've been radicalized by a Queens, NY, grifter, his wealthiest RWE donors in tandem with their own pastors and a handful of RWE media outlets leveraging their racism, other prejudices, and their ignorance resulting from only exposing themselves to liars who reinforce their belief systems instead of to a wide spectrum of news gathering, academic, and other information sources.

Consider the thread's OP, much anger and resentment in reaction to "issues" and people most of us do not consider particularly relevant, sinister, provocative, or controversial. We get by applying a very simple neutralizing mechanism, believing the exact opposite of RWE and other Trump messaging. Fox News, Nationalreview, or Dailycaller "reports" Maxine Waters and Merrick Garland are destroying the country and Biden can't stay awake or remember his own name when he wakes up, and we reflexively believe Maxine and Merrick are the best that have ever served in government and Biden is the strongest, sharpest, 78 year old in U.S. history and Trump should immediately be indicted, prosecuted, convicted, imprisoned until he can't swing a club or tell another lie.

 

[tres borrachos]

yeah. the OP just exposed himself.

Just?

 

[roguenuke]

Not a death threat and arguable in court as to it's legality.

Not arguable at all as to the legality of whether something that does not meet the definition of a citizen's arrest can be considered kidnapping, assault, unlawful detainment, or a number of other potential charges.

Making a Citizen’s Arrest in Arizona Can You Get You Charged With Aggravated Assault; Sometimes It Will Get You Killed

In a recent tragic story covered by azfamily.com in Phoenix, a Tempe man was killed after trying to make a citizen’s arrest on a car full of people who were involved in a simple hit and run accident. Read our blog to learn more.

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Please tell us which of these crimes the principal committed in the presence of those citizens:

• Arson;
• Burglary (residential only);
• Kidnapping;
• Manslaughter;
• Murder;
• Sexual conduct with a minor;
• Sexual assault;
• Child molestation;
• Armed robbery; or
• Aggravated assault

Making a Citizen’s Arrest in Arizona Can You Get You Charged With Aggravated Assault; Sometimes It Will Get You Killed

In a recent tragic story covered by azfamily.com in Phoenix, a Tempe man was killed after trying to make a citizen’s arrest on a car full of people who were involved in a simple hit and run accident. Read our blog to learn more.

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Before you make a citizen arrest, you'd better be sure

Yes, but are you sure you want to go down this road?

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Karl "Jack" Frost Pleads No Contest in Case of His "Citizen's Arrest" of Jogger in Bicycle Lane; Gets Probation

Karl "Jack" Frost pleaded no contest to a charge of disorderly conduct today stemming from his May 17 "citizen's arrest" of a man jogging in a bicycle lane. The 47-year-old former British cop had been out for a morning bike ride in Gilbert that day when he became enraged at...

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He was charged with disorderly conduct, assault and unlawful imprisonment.

Citizen's arrest in West Jordan lands 2 men in jail

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A man who thought he was doing the right thing by making a citizen's arrest of a suspected child molester, was arrested himself for investigation of aggravated kidnapping.

 

[dcsports]

Except that this is a coordinated effort that is being spread through mainly misinformation, not anything to do with the actual school board. They are ill equipped to combat misinformation when the people blindly believe the lies that they are being told and refuse to believe anything the school board is telling them to counter it.

Conservative groups are training activists to swarm school board meetings

The same people are appearing at meetings across the state.

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Took a sec to figure out what you were talking about - huge left turn there.

The original article and memo are talking about threats to school boards and officials. You attached an article about proliferation of advocacy around critical race theory. These are not the same thing. Garland wasn't talking about addressing any specific form of advocacy, nor providing DOJ education programs.

School boards should be equipped to communicate with their constituents.

 

[Ikari]

Like everything democrats do, this is a case of follow the money. Merrick Garland's son-in-law is Xan Tanner. He operates a company called Panorama Education which is backed by guess who? Zuckerberg. https://www.topionetworks.com/companies/panorama-education-55c1e394b2c94adc550014c1

The company provides education materials to schools K through 12. The material is all left leaning, of course.

WTF does this conspiracy nutjob argument have to do with anything? The National School Boards Association requested the intervention. Jesus, it's always conspiracy theories.

Garland says authorities will target school board threats

Attorney General Merrick Garland is directing the FBI and U.S. attorneys to meet with federal, state and local law enforcement to address the increasing threats targeting school board members, teachers and other employees in the nation's public schools.

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The action is in response to an urgent request last week from the National School Boards Association. The group, which represents school board members around the country, asked President Joe Biden for federal assistance to investigate and stop threats made over policies including mask mandates, likening the vitriol to a form of domestic terrorism.

The association asked for the federal government to investigate cases where threats or violence could be handled as violations of federal laws protecting civil rights. It also asked for the Justice Department, FBI, Homeland Security and Secret Service to help monitor threat levels and assess risks to students, educators, board members and school buildings.

The group’s letter documented more than 20 instances of threats, harassment, disruption, and acts of intimidation in California, Florida, Georgia, New Jersey, Ohio and other states. It cited the September arrest of an Illinois man for aggravated battery and disorderly conduct for allegedly striking a school official at a meeting. In Michigan, a meeting was disrupted when a man performed a Nazi salute to protest masking.

So maybe it's not some dumb **** grand conspiracy. Maybe....just maybe.....it's that certain groups of people have taken to harassing and threatening school board members and health care workers and people are getting fed up with the abuse.

 

[SCrider]

Wow, new respect for Mitch McConnell. This so-called "moderate" would have been a disaster on the Supreme Court. Now he's threatening free speech?

Free Speech?

 

[dcsports]

The feds are involved because it's related to kidnapping, but at the moment it is still inside our jurisdiction.

It makes sense that the local police would tap into FBI resources for a kidnapping case, but that's a pretty specific issue (and rare). People getting angry at a school board meeting is more of a local issue.

 

[Luce]

It makes sense that the local police would tap into FBI resources for a kidnapping case, but that's a pretty specific issue (and rare). People getting angry at a school board meeting is more of a local issue.

It was one particular case.

The other side of the coin is denial of civil liberties.

 

[MaryP]

This is going way, way to far. Clearly trying to intimidate and suppress people from speaking out about their thoughts on what is being taught to our kids. Can you imagine that they tried to put Garland out there as a moderate pick for the SC? The guy seems like he came right out of the Stasi from old East Germany.

Their thoughts on what is being taught isn't the problem. Personally threatening school board members has nothing to do with curriculum or policy.

 

[roguenuke]

Took a sec to figure out what you were talking about - huge left turn there.

The original article and memo are talking about threats to school boards and officials. You attached an article about proliferation of advocacy around critical race theory. These are not the same thing. Garland wasn't talking about addressing any specific form of advocacy, nor providing DOJ education programs.

School boards should be equipped to communicate with their constituents.

They are equipped to communicate with their constituents, in several ways in most parts of the country. They still cannot get their message across, provide their information to those making threats, disrupting their meetings, causing problems if those people are not willing to listen to what they are trying to put out (the school board) because they are being told in this coordinated effort not to believe it.

 

[surfguy74]

This is going way, way to far. Clearly trying to intimidate and suppress people from speaking out about their thoughts on what is being taught to our kids. Can you imagine that they tried to put Garland out there as a moderate pick for the SC? The guy seems like he came right out of the Stasi from old East Germany.

My God, Biden is now using tactics that bordering on what the Soviet Union and Hitler's Germany used to suppress any and all dissent against his Policy Agenda. The First Amendment is now what Joe Biden and the Progressive Left dictate it be in our Country. What will be next from the Dictator in the WH?

 

[dcsports]

If it's being organized across state lines or intended to violate the civil right of the victims it is... Always open to an "alternative" explanation from the Trump University Law School graduates... Could use a laugh...

That's a pretty extreme scenario, and sure, they could get involve in the rare situation that involves interstate crime or civil rights violations.

Back to reality - we're talking about heated school board meetings - not the mafia.

 

[pamak]

They have have to happen right now to be investigated. But they don't need to riot since they accomplished their mission of swaying the election.

Typical right wing ignorance!

Google the ANTIFA participation in various demonstrations when Obama was president. Recall also the BLM demonstrations and the Ferguson riots. Your theory about their motives does not hold.

 

[Ikari]

It makes sense that the local police would tap into FBI resources for a kidnapping case, but that's a pretty specific issue (and rare). People getting angry at a school board meeting is more of a local issue.

Typically it is a local issue more than anything. However, nationally it's been growing in frequency and intensity and National School Boards Association asked the federal government for help with the issue.

School board group asks US for help policing threats

The nation's school boards are asking President Joe Biden for federal assistance to investigate and stop a growing number of threats made against their members.

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