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Tipping: Do you agree with the practice?

Your view on tipping

  • Total voters
    39
I honestly wish that our tipping culture was more like Europe’s where restaurant positions were better paid in terms of base salary, making tipping unnecessary.
 
Carjosse said:
A tip should only be for outstanding exceptional service. Otherwise it is nothing but a scam or subsidizing an employee’s wage. Tipped wage should be eliminated and the minimum wage increased. In Quebec the tipped minimum wage is not that much less than the regular minimum wage so I don’t feel bad tipping less if the service was not great or just average. Ontario eliminated theirs, which is the right move. Literally everything and everyone is asking for ****ing tips these days, it is insane.


People says tips encourage better service, they do not. Bad servers know they will get a tip regardless due to social pressure. One time I had a server who got pissed when I gave them no tip when they completely ignored my girlfriend and I unless we flagged him down with our arms to take our order and never once came by to even refill our water or even take our plates away. There was only three other people in the restaurant.
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I hope you told him why.
 
reinaert said:
A function of the modern POS systems, mostly. The bill often comes with three or four options.

Cash tips can still reflect subjective feelings of service. We just tipped fifty on fifty the other day because the service was exceptional.
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OK, but in your $50 tip on a $50 (meal?) order example you likely paid someone (at least) $50/hour more than their base wage. I’m sure that you made their day.
 
Tips should not count towards base salary. My tip is not intended for the owner. I'd like to see tipping exceptions to minimum wage eliminated federally.
 
Helix said:
Tips should not count towards base salary. My tip is not intended for the owner. I'd like to see tipping exceptions to minimum wage eliminated federally.
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Isn’t that illegal basically everywhere? Then again wouldn’t surprise me if in some states it was. It is just a different kind of wage theft.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
OK, but in your $50 tip on a $50 (meal?) order example you likely paid someone (at least) $50/hour more than their base wage. I’m sure that you made their day.
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It was breakfast. Waitress was by herself. Counter and floor. Nailed it. Flawless execution. I hope she banked.
 
Carjosse said:
A tip should only be for outstanding exceptional service. Otherwise it is nothing but a scam or subsidizing an employee’s wage. Tipped wage should be eliminated and the minimum wage increased. In Quebec the tipped minimum wage is not that much less than the regular minimum wage so I don’t feel bad tipping less if the service was not great or just average. Ontario eliminated theirs, which is the right move. Literally everything and everyone is asking for ****ing tips these days, it is insane.

People says tips encourage better service, they do not. Bad servers know they will get a tip regardless due to social pressure. One time I had a server who got pissed when I gave them no tip when they completely ignored my girlfriend and I unless we flagged him down with our arms to take our order and never once came by to even refill our water or even take our plates away. There was only three other people in the restaurant.
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I will leave an upside-down penny for execrable or rude service. Most younger servers don't know what it means, but older ones do.
 
Queen Margo said:
True. I was server for too many years than I should have been, but loved it. When you work a breakfast shift, it is much harder and requires faster, more attentive service but the checks are lower.
Keeping the coffee cup full is an art form in my opinion. A good server moves fast and tries to anticipate your needs before you do.
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Yep, but if a server is attending to 4 tables of customers and they each dine for half an hour and tip $10 (per table) then that server is making $80/hour over their (otherwise meager) wage and likely not reporting even 25% of it for income tax purposes.
 
BrotherFease said:
What do you guys think about tipping? I am referring to tipping food servers, bellhops, and valet attendants. From my own understanding: Tipping is pretty much an American custom. Most countries see tipping as offensive and unethical. I maybe wrong about this, but apparently we Americans tip for economic reasons. Food servers get paid less than minimum wage, and the tips go to pay the salary of both the server and the cooks/chefs. Should Americans really live by a tip-centered economic system?


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Tipping should not be assumed and effectively built into wages; it should be reserved for only the most exceptional service rather than being standard, expected and essentially needed to subsidize low hourlies because stingy employers will not pay their workers a reasonable amount despite being perfectly capable of doing so.
 
TheParser said:
1. Yes, I believe in tipping.

2. With the high cost of living nowadays, workers can use all the extra money that they receive in tips.

3. I like to order food from restaurants using one of those food delivery services, for example.

a. I always give a flat $10 tip, even though I usually order only one or two items.

i. I really appreciate the service rendered by those drivers.

4. I hear tell that some clerks at supermarkets are now expecting tips. If that is true, I think that is going too far. But being very timid, I would cave and give at least a dollar.
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The only thing i would say is it is better to order direct if you are trying to support local business. Grubhub and the like really eat into their bottom line.
 
Surrealistik said:
Tipping should not be assumed and built into wages; it should be reserved for only the most exceptional service rather than being standard, expected and essentially needed to subsidize wages because stingy employers will not pay their workers a reasonable amount.
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Like every restaurant is jacking up their prices anyways, just jack it up a bit more and pay employees a real wage.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Yep, but if a server is attending to 4 tables of customers and they each dine for half an hour and tip $10 (per table) then that server is making $80/hour over their (otherwise meager) wage and likely not reporting even 25% of it for income tax purposes.
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You can hold cash back if you aren't keeping a running total, or required to pay out the end of your shift.

You will report every last penny of cc/phone tips.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Yep, but if a server is attending to 4 tables of customers and they each dine for half an hour and tip $10 (per table) then that server is making $80/hour over their (otherwise meager) wage and likely not reporting even 25% of it for income tax purposes.
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OK, I am not sure what you are getting at. Maybe I am a bit slow this morning.
 

Tipped Employee Minimum Wage Laws By State 2025

www.minimum-wage.org www.minimum-wage.org

Carjosse said:
Isn’t that illegal basically everywhere? Then again wouldn’t surprise me if in some states it was. It is just a different kind of wage theft.
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In some states, minimum wage for tipped jobs is still $2.13 an hour. If the workers don't get enough tips to bring them up to the federal minimum, the owner has to make up the difference. You can guess what probably happens to the server in a right to work for less / fire at will state when the owner has to make up the difference regularly. When you tip in one of those states, a portion of your tip is paying for base salary, which should be the responsibility of the owner.
 
TheParser said:
1. Yes, I believe in tipping.

2. With the high cost of living nowadays, workers can use all the extra money that they receive in tips.

3. I like to order food from restaurants using one of those food delivery services, for example.

a. I always give a flat $10 tip, even though I usually order only one or two items.

i. I really appreciate the service rendered by those drivers.

4. I hear tell that some clerks at supermarkets are now expecting tips. If that is true, I think that is going too far. But being very timid, I would cave and give at least a dollar.
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You think supermarket clerks are taking it too far, I have had online shopping websites ask for a tip.
 
Carjosse said:
Like every restaurant is jacking up their prices anyways, just jack it up a bit more and pay employees a real wage.
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You can offset better with good inventory control. Most of the losses are in kitchen labor, BOH mistakes, wastage and portion control.

FOH is made to carry BOH costs.
 
Carjosse said:
You think supermarket clerks are taking it too far, I have had online shopping websites ask for a tip.
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Self-checkouts are now doing this too; it's absolutely insane.
 
Helix said:

Tipped Employee Minimum Wage Laws By State 2025

www.minimum-wage.org www.minimum-wage.org


In some states, minimum wage for tipped jobs is still $2.13 an hour. If the workers don't get enough tips to bring them up to the federal minimum, the owner has to make up the difference. You can guess what probably happens to the server in a right to work for less / fire at will state when the owner has to make up the difference regularly. When you tip in one of those states, a portion of your tip is paying for base salary, which should be the responsibility of the owner.
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I thought you meant like the owner taking a portion of the tips directly for themselves.
 
reinaert said:
You can hold cash back if you aren't keeping a running total, or required to pay out the end of your shift.

You will report every last penny of cc/phone tips.
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Why? It’s not being reported to IRS or showing up on a 1099.
 
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