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Time To Re-Introduce Myself.

I've been a member of this Forum now for a little over 4 years. Back in 2013 I posted the following in a "Hi, I'm New" statement.

I repost this to help both old and new members who question my motives based on my recent responses both in support of the current administration, and other political issue threads.


As you can see I have remained true to this list of ideals throughout my membership to date. I've also expanded on them to clarify as examples arise of new issues not listed.

I also adhere to my tagline, I stop responding for the following three reasons.:

1. I believe that I've made my point already and really don't feel like repeating it.

2. The post is fallacious in some way (emotional appeal, ad hominin, red herring, straw man, false dilemma, etc.) therefore trolling and I simply chose not to respond.

3. There is no real issue to respond to, it's just an opinion or an assertion I have no interest in.


Link to old post:
Hi folks! I've been posting on the website for few days now. Made some mistakes, learned a few lessons, and am starting to feel comfortable speaking my piece. I actually got one friend request a coupla days ago and wouldn't mind more.
 
I'm pro life and I don't agree with legalizing drugs so I far from agree with you on everything but I find you to be a reasonable poster that doesn't resort to insults (an area I have had my struggles with) and I can respect that.
 
X Factor;bt4140 said:
I'm pro life and I don't agree with legalizing drugs so I far from agree with you on everything but I find you to be a reasonable poster that doesn't resort to insults (an area I have had my struggles with) and I can respect that.

People seldom agree on everything. But the fact we can agree on some things and agree to disagree on others allow for coexistence and cooperation.

Thanks for the comment and the friend request.
 
A man with enlightened standards is like a man in a crisp uniform.

I believe I have made my point.
 
Hawkeye10;bt4142 said:
A man with enlightened standards is like a man in a crisp uniform.

I believe I have made my point.

Okay. I'll take that as a positive comment. Thanks.
 
Your principled demeanor shines like a Bright Star! Bravo, good man, bravo! Thank you for adding significant value to DP.
May we endeavor to live with more Grace, more Honor, more Humor and more Love.

Pivoting briefly to a previous topic of yours.... school-related debt- your posts brought awareness that maybe I could appreciate that my oldest child, a 27 year old daughter, already paid off all of her college debt without a penny from me. Under-graduate and Graduate Civil Engineering degrees, Highest Honors, Georgia Tech.
She demonstrated resourcefulness very early on: The 63 kids at her high school that graduated IB racked in $3mil in scholarships. One of her grants, 12K/year, came from a Hispanic Heritage Foundation. In spite of her red hair, freckles, fair skin and limited immersion in Spanish Culture, she qualified because of 25% verifiable Puerto Rican heritage from my late mother. Successful people have a knack at finding paths to success.

Peace to you and yours! May you pay off all your student-related debt sooner than later.
 
Thank you. I appreciate the sentiments.

Kudos and congratulations to your daughter, for both accomplishments (achieving her educational goals in such a stellar fashion, and taking full responsibility for her financial obligations.)

That leaf didn't fall far from the tree. :good_job:
 
Captain Adverse;bt4139 said:
Posted for public consumption.

This is a pretty good overview. I do respect that you're pretty consistent throughout your beliefs, that's a rarity these days.

X Factor;bt4140 said:
I'm pro life and I don't agree with legalizing drugs so I far from agree with you on everything but I find you to be a reasonable poster that doesn't resort to insults (an area I have had my struggles with) and I can respect that.

In other words a big government conservative that wants the nanny state to micromanage our lives.
 
RabidAlpaca;bt4150 said:
This is a pretty good overview. I do respect that you're pretty consistent throughout your beliefs, that's a rarity these days.

Thank you. I also respect consistency and appreciate your willingness to disagree without rancor allowing us to agree in other areas.
 
Like others have said, I definitely respect your consistency here, and I can't think of a time you've said anything that goes against your stated positions here. Interestingly, even though I know we differ on how we see some things, like our President, I find myself agreeing with a strong majority of what you've posted here. Maybe the difference comes from economic issues or elsewhere.
 
Why am I always fighting with you...I agree with almost everything you've said here. Maybe it's American 1st amendment definition vs. Canadian Freedom of Speech definition. Or maybe it's that damn coffee drinking emoticon...I always feel like you're telling me to f-off with it.

Regardless, I'm reading this and feeling like we'd be on the same team for most of it....which has left me uneasy. See ya around...
 
I agree with you on most points, especially the futility of the war on drugs.

But I can't imagine why you would support Trump if you hold these views. (Do you?)
Whatever nonsense Trump says he's an interventionist. You don't pick a guy named "mad dog" and focus on increased military spending if you don't want to intervene. He's already intervened in Syria more so than Obama and he has committed us to an endless occupation of Afghanistan.

I don't understand your 2nd Amendment position. If the constitution allows us the same arms as soldiers, why can't I buy hand grenades, shoulder mounted rocket launchers or tanks? If you agree that these pose safety concerns then you agree on limits to the 2nd Amendment for public safety, right?

Oh, and you left out the most important political position. Economics. I'm guessing you're one of those irrationally impractical libertarians.
 

Thank you.

Everyone is different. People develop their opinions and political positions over time, picking up via personal experiences and then keeping or discarding them via personal preferences.

But I find that people usually have more in common with each other than they think. Recognition of this allows us to agree and disagree while hopefully still being able to tolerate each other.
 

It's the "damn coffee drinking emoticon!"

As I've said to other's people, we actually have more in common with each other than preferences and prejudices make us think.

I've lived all over this country (USA) and also overseas, and I have found common cause with many people who thought differently.

I can strongly disagree on some things, but I've also learned over time not to allow that to close my mind or blind it with hate.

So, agree to disagree and engage in friendly debate and it's all good.
 
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I left out a lot of things, since I was actually citing my "Hi, I'm new" post back in 2013 shortly after I became a member. You only get 5,000 total characters.

People seldom agree on everything. Some people believe more strongly than others on certain issues, while agreeing with or sharing a complete disinterest on other issues.

IMO making a conscious effort to separate and isolate those things we disagree on from the rest, and not letting them totally color our perspective gives people the opportunity to cooperate and co-exist.

As for my support of Trump? There are things about his Administration I don't agree with, but there are other things I do agree with. I voted for him with a solid knowledge of who he was (I lived in NYC for 1/4 of my life) and who his opponent was. I support him because in my honest opinion the vicious and dishonest tactics used to discredit him during the campaign period are directly responsible for creating this post-election social nightmare we are seeing played out in the media.

Not him. :no:

That at no time was he given the fair chance to do his job, and succeed or fail on actual issues. Impeachment by any means necessary was the cry from day one, and has not let up to this date.

I have an innate sense of fair play, and I don't believe certain people have been playing fair on this issue at all.

Most of all, I feel this kind of banana republic politicking is a dangerous threat to our society and so I will support the system that elected him because I believe in it's value and don't want to see our nation torn apart.
 
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I read your list a few times. I have about 2 pretty minor quibbles with your positions, but it otherwise reads a lot like something I could have written myself.

I obviously disagree with you regarding the Trump administration, but I am completely opposed to moves to impeach Trump at this point in time. That's in spite of the fact that I think Trump is dangerous and I oppose much of what he has done and most of those he's chosen to bring into his administration. If he commits some offense that warrants impeachment, then and only then should that happen. Trump was duly elected via our electoral system. eace
 

Thanks for the comment.

If Trump is found to have committed "high crimes and misdemeanors" in the performance of his office, then impeachment is justifiable and I would have no problem with it either.

However, I do not support witch hunts based on an irrational and emotional response on the part of those whose side lost an election. They were calling for impeachment from day one after the election in November.

I voted for Al Gore and thought Bush Jr. could have lost due to some chicanery in Florida...but when SCOTUS shut that down? It was good enough for me.

I still didn't like Bush Jr. as President since I considered him a puppet of Dick Cheney and the oil interests, and I opposed the Patriot Act and the war in Afghaniztan and Iraq.

Even so, he was still the President of the USA and that meant MY President for good or ill while he held office.
 
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You are a "live and let live" sort of person like myself.

I agree with most of your opinions.

I almost wish we had Bill Clinton back again, because the past 3 have been shipwrecks.
 
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