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Time For Heads To Roll

Deuce said:
Yes, that's what we've been asking for. I don't know why you are trying to make this a partisan issue. Both Democrats and Republicans have been calling for the evidence to come to light and criminals be brought to justice.

Except the difference between you and me is that you stopped wanting this once Trump became president and it became increasingly clear that he's on the ****in list. Suddenly a trustworthy DOJ doesn't actually matter to you, as you go through all kinds of gymnastics to defend the Trump administration's most obvious and pathetic cover up attempts in American history.
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I trust the current appointees in the DOJ and FBI. I do not have high confidence that there has been enough time to purge the corruption that resulted in there still being questions about Epstein.
I totally understand Trump's frustration that Epstein clouded what was an epic few months of results. There is a recognition by Trump now that all stops must be pulled regardless.
 
Eriech said:
I trust the current appointees in the DOJ and FBI. I do not have high confidence that there has been enough time to purge the corruption that resulted in there still being questions about Epstein.
I totally understand Trump's frustration that Epstein clouded what was an epic few months of results. There is a recognition by Trump now that all stops must be pulled regardless.
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You say this because it's more socially acceptable than the truth:

You know Trump is hiding this evidence because it implicates him as a child molester, and you're fine with all of this.
 
Deuce said:
You say this because it's more socially acceptable than the truth:

You know Trump is hiding this evidence because it implicates him as a child molester, and you're fine with all of this.
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Had this evidence existed, Maxwell would have used it against Trump when first arrested and charged.

Had it existed, the Biden DOJ would have used it against Trump.

It doesn't exist.
 
Deuce said:
You say this because it's more socially acceptable than the truth:

You know Trump is hiding this evidence because it implicates him as a child molester, and you're fine with all of this.
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So your "truth" is that the Biden DOJ along with Maureen Comey and the southern district of NY protected Trump in an election year. That same year Trump was demanding release of the Epstein evidence all the while knowing he was likely included.

A lot has changed since 2017. A new wrap around smear will be tough to pull off. Its all you (collectively) have though so I understand.
 
Very revealing. Some avid Trump supporters on this board favor a coverup rather than learn the full unvarnished truth.

They are in the minority among Americans.....

Trump faces backlash as 69% believe Epstein details concealed, Reuters/Ipsos poll finds

They would rather coverup criminal behavior that involves the elite/wealthy. Why? Because Trump's name is known to be in the Epstein files multiple times....

abcnews.go.com

Trump was told by Bondi his name appeared multiple times in Epstein files: Report

According to a report in the Wall Street Journal, Pam Bondi informed President Trump in May that his name appeared multiple times in the Epstein files.
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"law and order" Trump supporters is a bad and sad joke.
 
Eriech said:
So your "truth" is that the Biden DOJ along with Maureen Comey and the southern district of NY protected Trump in an election year. That same year Trump was demanding release of the Epstein evidence all the while knowing he was likely included.

A lot has changed since 2017. A new wrap around smear will be tough to pull off. Its all you (collectively) have though so I understand.
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I think a lot of powerful people are on that list.

You're treating the Biden administration like it was some monolith that had only the goal of harming Trump. You're doing that because that's how right wingers think, so you assume everyone else does too.
 
Deuce said:
I think a lot of powerful people are on that list.

You're treating the Biden administration like it was some monolith that had only the goal of harming Trump. You're doing that because that's how right wingers think, so you assume everyone else does too.
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No better evidence than crossfire hurricane, 2 impeachments, indictments, facilitated assignation attempts that I am right about that.
 
Eriech said:
No better evidence than crossfire hurricane, 2 impeachments, indictments, facilitated assignation attempts that I am right about that.
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You think this answer makes sense, don't you?
 
Eriech said:
Might be of interest.

Why was Maxwell never interviewed? Didn't care, didn't wamt to know?

jonathanturley.org

The Mystery of Ghislaine Maxwell: Does Epstein’s Associate Have an Untold Story?

In the 1933 classic movie, The Invisible Man, the local constable responds to a question of the problem present in dealing with the main character: “He’s invisible, that’s what&#…
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Maxwell was deposed. But as with Epstein, she claimed her Fifth Amendment rights. In addition. Maxwell with convicted in 2016 of perjuring herself two times.

During his New York deposition, Trump employed the Fifth Amendment 440 times.... more times than most of the New York Mafia family bosses.

Grand Jury testimony is acquired in secret and then sealed by a judge. This is done mainly to protect witnesses/whistleblowers from retribution.

I have never known a judge to unseal Grand Jury testimony merely to satiate public interest.

And btw: Using Jonathan Turley as a source.....

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Overall, we rate JonathanTurley.org as right-center biased based on criticism of Democrats and the defense of Donald Trump’s legal positions. We also rate him Mixed for factual reporting due to referencing his own writings and making statements that are not entirely true.
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JonathanTurley.org - Bias and Credibility

RIGHT-CENTER BIAS These media sources are slight to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words
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aociswundumho said:
You don't need a state to enforce social norms. In ancapistan, child abusers would face violent retribution from families or communities, instead of being protected, like the government is doing right now.
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So mob rule?
History is full of times when this did not work out well.
 
aociswundumho said:
No, you're thinking of democracy.



Yes, democracies tend to self-destruct.
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What you described is not democracy.
It is simple mob rule, wild west justice, and vigilantly justice.
 
KingLeo said:
What you described is not democracy.
It is simple mob rule, wild west justice, and vigilantly justice.
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You might want to educated yourself on the subject a bit:

The Not So Wild, Wild West: Property Rights on the Frontier (Stanford Economics & Finance): Terry L. Anderson, Peter J. Hill: 9780804748544: Amazon.com: Books

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aociswundumho said:
You might want to educated yourself on the subject a bit:

The Not So Wild, Wild West: Property Rights on the Frontier (Stanford Economics & Finance): Terry L. Anderson, Peter J. Hill: 9780804748544: Amazon.com: Books

The Not So Wild, Wild West: Property Rights on the Frontier (Stanford Economics & Finance) [Terry L. Anderson, Peter J. Hill] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. The Not So Wild, Wild West: Property Rights on the Frontier (Stanford Economics & Finance)
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Now you are just ignoring your original post and offering up what-a-boutisms.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Maxwell was deposed. But as with Epstein, she claimed her Fifth Amendment rights. In addition. Maxwell with convicted in 2016 of perjuring herself two times.

During his New York deposition, Trump employed the Fifth Amendment 440 times.... more times than most of the New York Mafia family bosses.

Grand Jury testimony is acquired in secret and then sealed by a judge. This is done mainly to protect witnesses/whistleblowers from retribution.

I have never known a judge to unseal Grand Jury testimony merely to satiate public interest.

And btw: Using Jonathan Turley as a source.....

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mediabiasfactcheck.com

JonathanTurley.org - Bias and Credibility

RIGHT-CENTER BIAS These media sources are slight to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words
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Are you saying that Trump's DOJ has to start from scratch to deliver on Epstein?
Turley values his credibility unlike some.
 
Deuce said:
I think a lot of powerful people are on that list.

You're treating the Biden administration like it was some monolith that had only the goal of harming Trump. You're doing that because that's how right wingers think, so you assume everyone else does too.
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So are you claiming that Biden Admin concealed the names of "powerful people" on "that list?"
 
Eriech said:
No better evidence than crossfire hurricane, 2 impeachments, indictments, facilitated assignation attempts that I am right about that.
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That you might believe that is not evidence of anything other than your own gullibility.
 
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