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Tim Walz stretches the truth again

trixare4kids said:
Tim Walz implied in the O/P video that he saw combat and suffered from PTSD after serving in Afghanistan. Something he never did. Keep up and note that Walz's lies keep piling up. Walz pretended to know what PTSD feels like.
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This entire response is a lie. He never implied he saw combat or implied he suffered PTSD. The Xitter user said that but it is not supported by the content of the video.
 
RF667799 said:
Came back from where? The NCO club?

All deployments are not equal.
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But they still do training that focuses on mental health, PTSD after coming back from most if not all deployments (it does depend on the command). We even had them on my ship and even some while in the shipyard if they felt morale was down or we had suicides and/or attempts.
 
RF667799 said:
Saying that he is "one of those that came back" does imply something. It's silly to act like it doesn't.

If someone who I knew had never been beyond an assignment to USAREUR was saying "as one of those that came back" during a discussion of PTSD, I would ask him: "Came back from where? The NCO club?"
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He came back from his deployment in Italy under OEF. He never once mentioned Afghanistan.
 
Airyaman said:
This entire response is a lie. He never implied he saw combat or implied he suffered PTSD. The Xitter user said that but it is not supported by the content of the video.
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Truth. And it’s not supported by the longer video that short 50 second clip was taken from.

So much twisting, spinning, distorting, just parroting what others parrot, flat out lies, then as always doubling down on it, same as always with these faux moral high ground feeding frenzies.

Nowhere did he say or even imply that he saw combat or had deployed to Afghanistan, that he himself suffered from ptsd, or that it showed any stolen valor. Claiming things such as well he “implied” it is simply made up spinning used in order to avoid admitting he never said it.

What he said was the truth, the unit was deployed in support of OEF, and he didn’t say he himself suffered from PTSD.

It’s also corroborated by MNG officials, who also stated their unit was deployed in support of OEF.

“Governor Tim Walz mobilized with the Minnesota National Guard’s 1st Battalion, 125th Field Artillery on Aug. 3, 2003, to support Operation Enduring Freedom. The battalion supported security missions at various locations in Europe and Turkey. Governor Walz was stationed at Vicenza, Italy, during his deployment. He returned to Minnesota in April, 2004,” Augé said.

www.gazettextra.com

Minnesota National Guard officials weigh in on Walz service

It’s unlikely that Gov. Tim Walz, the Democratic nominee to the vice presidency, knew that his unit would receive mobilization orders not long after he retired in 2005, sources with
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hooligan said:
I already pointed it out. He came back from an OEF deployment and sat through the same training with some of the folks that were in the sandbox. The point of the discussion was the inadequate "training" of how to deal with possible PTSD.

No straw men. That's the context that makes it relevant. He deployed for OEF, just like the guys who went to the sandbox. He sat through the PTSD "training", just like the guys that went to the sandbox. It's really, REALLY simple.
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Yes, he simply wanted to point out he was "just like the guys that went to the sandbox".

I don't know why I didn't think of that.

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RF667799 said:
Yes, he simply wanted to point out he was "just like the guys that went to the sandbox".

I don't know why I didn't think of that.

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Just like the guys who went to the sandbox in this one very narrow, very specific context. Yep.

It's why you continually parse his statement to make it look like something else. It's horribly transparent.
 
roguenuke said:
But they still do training that focuses on mental health, PTSD after coming back from most if not all deployments (it does depend on the command). We even had them on my ship and even some while in the shipyard if they felt morale was down or we had suicides and/or attempts.
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Yeah, they come up with all kinds of check the box training.
 
hooligan said:
Just like the guys who went to the sandbox in this one very narrow, very specific context. Yep.

It's why you continually parse his statement to make it look like something else. It's horribly transparent.
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Oh yes...he certainly took pains to ensure nobody misunderstood that when he was saying he was just like the guys that went to the sandbox, he never actually went himself. He just "came back" from some unspecified place.
 
If lying was significant to you, you'd be calling Trump out many times per day. Clearly you don't care about honesty, just partisanship.

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RF667799 said:
Oh yes...he certainly took pains to ensure nobody misunderstood that when he was saying he was just like the guys that went to the sandbox, he never actually went himself. He just "came back" from some unspecified place.
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Your mask is slipping.
 
RF667799 said:
Did he mention Italy?
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No, but he mentioned OEF. All available information states Walz was deployed in Italy for OEF.


Before he retired from the service, Walz did a tour of duty in Italy, providing security for a U.S. base while its troops deployed to Afghanistan.
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Deployed to Italy for Operation Enduring Freedom with 1st Battalion, 125th Field Artillery Regiment in 2003.
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hooligan said:
Your mask is slipping.
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Mask? Has it not been pretty obvious I disapprove of overly aggrandizing one's military service or being sketch on details to give a false impression?

It's like when that clown was yelling at those kids and beating a drum in their faces, and people tried to excuse him because he claimed to be a Vietnam vet. He wasn't. People trying to excuse him left out the "era" part, and also conveniently forgot that his service was mainly distinguished by egregious behavior.

Now, Walz isn't that....but he does like to embellish around the edges regularly.
 
Airyaman said:
No, but he mentioned OEF. All available information states Walz was deployed in Italy for OEF.

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I wish I had kept contact info for the guys I trained in Ft Knox. '90-'91. They can now tell people they were deployed in Operations Desert Shield/Desert Storm.

They can solemnly tell people that while they were ones who came back, some didn't. Then it's free drinks the rest of the night.

Or run for Congress. Whichever.
 
RF667799 said:
Yeah, they come up with all kinds of check the box training.
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Which is what he was talking against, trying to get people to recognize that more was/is needed to address PTSD and mental health for all veterans and active duty personnel. The context of that discussion was pretty clear there.
 
roguenuke said:
Which is what he was talking against, trying to get people to recognize that more was/is needed to address PTSD and mental health for all veterans and active duty personnel. The context of that discussion was pretty clear there.
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Yeah, but it didn't require a personal "been there; done that" insinuation.
 
roguenuke said:
He was there for those trainings. That happened.
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Yes. But talking about it later didn't require that "Having been one of those who came back" routine.

He could have said, "When I came back from Italy..." Or wherever it was. He didn't specify, and you might have seen some others won't either.
 
RF667799 said:
Yes. But talking about it later didn't require that "Having been one of those who came back" routine.

He could have said, "When I came back from Italy..." Or wherever it was. He didn't specify, and you might have seen some others won't either.
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He came back from Italy. It's called not thinking people are really going to be this confused later down the road about what you're saying. This is how people talk. Most people don't specify everything in their lives. It can get confusing sometimes, so ask questions. In this case, its clear what he was saying, talking about for anyone not being dishonest because of politics.
 
PoS said:
Yup, the truth hurts you, its obvious.
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Well at least you admit it’s an act. Not a lick of truth to your statement as expected.
 
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