BEND, Ore. - A 14-year-old girl received detention over a lingering hug she gave her boyfriend at school, infuriating her mother and putting school officials on the defensive.
School officials said they had warned Cazz Altomare that lingering hugging was unacceptable, but she continued to disobey the rule when she received the detention earlier this year.
Rules at Sky View Middle School in Bend permit "quick hello and goodbye hugs," but administrators said some students have been taking advantage of it.
"It's not like we are the hug Nazis," Laurie Gould, spokeswoman for the Bend-La Pine School District, said Monday. "Kids hug, they hug hello and they hug goodbye, but if you take it farther, you make people uncomfortable."
Cazz got detention after giving her boyfriend a protracted hug in the hallway at Sky View Middle School in Bend.
Her mother, Leslee Swanson, was infuriated by the punishment. When she went to pick her daughter up from detention, she gave her a good, hard hug.
GarzaUK said:lol hugging? Come on, I find this incredible - but I'm a foreigner. Right enough if a see someone hugging for too long in the airport and break out in an uncomfortable sweat, my legs tremble, my pupils dialate.
Does the school allow kissing, just curious? And what's the time limit on hugs in general?
Back in the UK we have fun looking at your crazy state laws. Eg. In wisconsin your not allowed to "worry" a squirrel. I'm not sure actually if a squirrel can get worried or not. How do you worry a squirrel? In some other state your not to have sex with a "live" fish. If it's dead - wahey time for some loving lol lol lol.
If I was at that school, being the wee protester I am :lol: I would organize a hugging rally until they dropped the silly rule.
Ah high school, I wish I was there again. We organized a school protest about local politics, we lay on the main road blocking traffic. Police dragged us off - we took a leaf from gandi's book - passive resistance. Ah those were the days, we got put in jail! :lol:
satinloveslibs said:If you get caught like 3 times you get a PDA note sent home and it must be signed (PDA=Public Display of Affection)
GarzaUK said:People of the world, I gave you the land of the free! lol. If we were caught kissing, we would be embarassed but that's it. I mean seriously, no wonder their is so many abortions in the USA!
Kissing is punished, so sex is made even more punishable. Because sex is more punishable, teenagers will want to do it more - rebel factor. Hey presto you have a baby.
The Dutch have the lowest teenage pregnancy rate in the western world. However the age of consent is 14! They are taught everything about sex by the time they are 10. Families talk about sex openly at the dinner table with parents and grandparents lol.
IMO it is ironic that moralism (teaching sex before marriage) actually leads to more abortions.
Anyway hugging and kissing are "human" and "natural" ways to show affection. I can't believe this is punishable for something so natural.
Right. There is a big difference between hugging and holding.satinloveslibs said:I'm sorry, but when two people are going at it like a bunch of dogs ( which I had to watch for a whole semester) I wish they inforced the rule even more, but otherwise I don't think there should be a rule for it.
vauge said:Right. There is a big difference between hugging and holding.
Hugging = Have nice day/hello
Holding = Did they just turn up the temp in this place?
satinloveslibs said:I'm sorry, but when two people are going at it like a bunch of dogs ( which I had to watch for a whole semester) I wish they inforced the rule even more, but otherwise I don't think there should be a rule for it. I think the families should really inforce the cons of having a baby before marriage and abortion. I hate it when people use abortion for birth control!
GarzaUK said:The more the family "inforces" the cons the more the subject wants to do it, it is in teeange pyschology to rebel, to push the rules around, I think most people did it.
Look at the Dutch satin, they have the complete opposite approach to you, yet teenage pregnancy rates are low compared to the USA/UK rates where most people approach the same way as you.[QUOTE/]
Then Dutch teens are smarter and not as lazy. ( wear a condom, take the pill) lazyness is killing several innocent babies/feotus
satanloveslibs said:GarzaUK said:The more the family "inforces" the cons the more the subject wants to do it, it is in teeange pyschology to rebel, to push the rules around, I think most people did it.
Look at the Dutch satin, they have the complete opposite approach to you, yet teenage pregnancy rates are low compared to the USA/UK rates where most people approach the same way as you.[QUOTE/]
Then Dutch teens are smarter and not as lazy. ( wear a condom, take the pill) lazyness is killing several innocent babies/feotus
Then I suggest you do what the Dutch do. :roll:
GarzaUK said:People of the world, I gave you the land of the free! lol. If we were caught kissing, we would be embarassed but that's it. I mean seriously, no wonder their is so many abortions in the USA!
Kissing is punished, so sex is made even more punishable. Because sex is more punishable, teenagers will want to do it more - rebel factor. Hey presto you have a baby.
The Dutch have the lowest teenage pregnancy rate in the western world. However the age of consent is 14! They are taught everything about sex by the time they are 10. Families talk about sex openly at the dinner table with parents and grandparents lol.
IMO it is ironic that moralism (teaching sex before marriage) actually leads to more abortions.
Anyway hugging and kissing are "human" and "natural" ways to show affection. I can't believe this is punishable for something so natural.
Fu_chick said:How right you are! My husbands family is very religious and conservative. The only thing they tell their kids about sex is that you shouldn't do it before marriage. My husband had 2 partners before we got married, his brother had 7 partners by the time he was 20, and their younger sister had sex for the first time at 14.
My mom was always very open and honest with me about sex, always encouraging me to come to her to get birth control rather than go without, and my husband was my first and only partner.
I think it's so ironic that the same people that fight tooth and nail against abortion also oppose any other sex ed besides abstinence.
Fu_chick said:How right you are! My husbands family is very religious and conservative. The only thing they tell their kids about sex is that you shouldn't do it before marriage. My husband had 2 partners before we got married, his brother had 7 partners by the time he was 20, and their younger sister had sex for the first time at 14.
My mom was always very open and honest with me about sex, always encouraging me to come to her to get birth control rather than go without, and my husband was my first and only partner.
I think it's so ironic that the same people that fight tooth and nail against abortion also oppose any other sex ed besides abstinence.
satanloveslibs said:Not true. We had a speaker and everything come to our school and trust me, he didn't just say "Practice Abstinence!" He told us everything, from birth control to std's, and abstanence to a safe active sex life. I'm one of the people who wanted this guy to come and speak and I'm against abortion in most cases, so your "I think it's so ironic that the same people that fight tooth and nail against abortion alss oppose any other sex ed besides abstinence" doesn't apply to me!
Fu_chick said:Maybe not you, but look that the people against teaching about condoms in school. By and large they are also anti-abortionists.
satanloveslibs said:Personally I'd want them to hand out the word of God instead of condoms, but condoms will save lives and will stop the use of abortion as birth control.
satanloveslibs said:Personally I'd want them to hand out the word of God instead of condoms, but condoms will save lives and will stop the use of abortion as birth control.
dark lord of the sith said:I really don't care about the whole thing because it's not like I'm going to get any hugs anyway.
dark lord of the sith said:I really don't care about the whole thing because it's not like I'm going to get any hugs anyway. They should have some restrictions though. Where I go to school there is this one high school girl that goes at it with her boyfriend for about ten minutes before she will even open the door for us to get into the highschool. The nasty part about it is that the guy is a freak and the girl is butt ugly and she weighs at least two times as much as her boyfriend. One thing to say... they're hopeless.
I really belong in your country...take me with you! I just find some of this stuff ridiculous, if my girlfriend were crying, I would go over and hold her. I would get detention for that, and that my friend, is bs.GarzaUK said:Alas we live on almost two different worlds.
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