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AlphaOmega said:
Two more SC picks and its over for baby killers. We will be taking your right to kill away. Does that anger you?
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Nah it makes me laugh. I love that you guys have such a laughable dream. Your right to kill women is not going to happen. You have nothing.

This is the part where I pull my head back and laugh.


Hahahahaha
 
vegas giants said:
Nah it makes me laugh. I love that you guys have such a laughable dream. Your right to kill women is not going to happen. You have nothing.

This is the part where I pull my head back and laugh.


Hahahahaha
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Like on election night? That kinda laugh? That quickly turned into sky crying.
 
AlphaOmega said:
Like on election night? That kinda laugh? That quickly turned into sky crying.
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You outlawed abortion on election night???

That's it...run from the debate. Seek shelter under the orange loaf. Lol
 
AlphaOmega said:
It's not a human being eh? What species is it then? No need to answer...it factually is a human being. It is genetically human, it is alive and therefore is factually a "human being". Secondly I'm not against womens rights...I'm not the one killing them before they are born. That would be your crowd...the ones denying women their utmost right....the right to live. How about you stay out of the choosing of whether or not innocent human beings live or die. Also I'm not religious...at all. I simply believe in not killing innocent human beings especially in most barbaric manners. Still waiting for someone to show us the aborted non human beings...oh wait...you can't because they are banned due to the horrific graphic nature of what a unborn dismembered innocent human being looks like.
And also please stop lying. The unborn is factually alive...that's why you need to kill it. You are entitled to your own opinion but you are not entitled to your own facts. It is alive and it is killed.
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You seem to confuse opinion for fact. You are of the opinion it is a human being, that is your right to view it as such, I disagree, a 1 week zygote is not a human being, to claim that is ludicrous and ridiculous. A human being is more than being alive and DNA, that is a fact or any part of our body would be claimed to be a human being, and it isn't. My skin is human DNA and alive, however it clearly does not count as a human being as it is not. It has no "soul"/sense of living/sentience/a working higher brain function, it is alive but not anything like a human being now is it.

And nobody is killing anyone when it comes to abortion, well the pro-life idiots who would rather have a woman die than have an abortion if it were the only way to save her life, those idiots are desiring to kill people for their extremist insane ideology but pro-choicers do nothing of the sort. And neither are women who are having an early elective abortion, no lives being lost there either.

And we are not denying any woman anything, we are affirming their right that it is THEIR CHOICE what happens to and with THEIR BODIES. Rather than allowing extremist ideologists like the pro-life movement or the government to interfere in that private medical decision that woman have the right to make. And you might not be religious, but you are repeating the ideology of those who are.

And I do not lie, I tell truth to fact, something you clearly have no interest in doing as all you are doing is preaching your ideology of women rights opposition. It is you who is making up their own deceitful truth by claiming a grape seed zygote is the same as a human being, this is just insane to try and pass that off as the truth. It isn't and no matter how often you repeat your ideology, it is not going to work.

There is just one right of any consequence in the abortion discussion, and it is a woman's right to her own medical choices without the government or right wing (often extreme christians) radical ideology interjecting them in her womb and what may or may not gestate in it.
 
vegas giants said:
Oh it's a human. And yes we kill it. And that is perfectly ok with almost every country on earth
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No, it is human, it is not "a human" because "a human being" has sentience, it has a brain capable of higher brain function. You are pronounced dead if your brain has died, so how can you truly be alive if you have no higher brain functions whatsoever?
 
Peter King said:
No, it is human, it is not "a human" because "a human being" has sentience, it has a brain capable of higher brain function. You are pronounced dead if your brain has died, so how can you truly be alive if you have no higher brain functions whatsoever?
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It's a human. Dont parse words. A brain dead patient is still a human. It's fine to kill both. Dont shy away from the truth.

Embrace it
 
Logical1 said:
Some of the other threads suggest a civil war over abortion "rights". To me it seem there is no difference between fighting to kill the unborn than there was the Nazis fighting to kill Jewish people during WWII!!! Both groups have mental problems.

Prove me wrong.
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You have it ass backwards. You presented a theory, the onus is on you to support it, jeesh some of you folks dont understand debate basics.
 
Peter King said:
You seem to confuse opinion for fact. You are of the opinion it is a human being, that is your right to view it as such, I disagree, a 1 week zygote is not a human being, to claim that is ludicrous and ridiculous. A human being is more than being alive and DNA, that is a fact or any part of our body would be claimed to be a human being, and it isn't. My skin is human DNA and alive, however it clearly does not count as a human being as it is not. It has no "soul"/sense of living/sentience/a working higher brain function, it is alive but not anything like a human being now is it.

And nobody is killing anyone when it comes to abortion, well the pro-life idiots who would rather have a woman die than have an abortion if it were the only way to save her life, those idiots are desiring to kill people for their extremist insane ideology but pro-choicers do nothing of the sort. And neither are women who are having an early elective abortion, no lives being lost there either.

And we are not denying any woman anything, we are affirming their right that it is THEIR CHOICE what happens to and with THEIR BODIES. Rather than allowing extremist ideologists like the pro-life movement or the government to interfere in that private medical decision that woman have the right to make. And you might not be religious, but you are repeating the ideology of those who are.

And I do not lie, I tell truth to fact, something you clearly have no interest in doing as all you are doing is preaching your ideology of women rights opposition. It is you who is making up their own deceitful truth by claiming a grape seed zygote is the same as a human being, this is just insane to try and pass that off as the truth. It isn't and no matter how often you repeat your ideology, it is not going to work.

There is just one right of any consequence in the abortion discussion, and it is a woman's right to her own medical choices without the government or right wing (often extreme christians) radical ideology interjecting them in her womb and what may or may not gestate in it.
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See post 97. Work out your stance with your fellow pro choicers then come to a general consensus before making statements. You guys are not in agreement on this.
 
Logical1 said:
Some of the other threads suggest a civil war over abortion "rights". To me it seem there is no difference between fighting to kill the unborn than there was the Nazis fighting to kill Jewish people during WWII!!! Both groups have mental problems.

Prove me wrong.
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Anti choice laws are a threat to my religious freedom as a Jew … because according to classical Jewish text and most rabbinic interpreters, a developing embryo or fetus is not ‘an unborn child’ or ‘person,’ but has the legal status of an appendage of the pregnant woman. It is part of her body, not a separate person, until the moment that a majority of a viable baby capable of independent life has been born.”
 
vegas giants said:
I do not want to kill women. I wish I could say the same for you
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Neither do I but unlike you I dont want them killed before they get to be women. Lefties killed more females today by noon than Hitler did on all of his days in power.
 
AlphaOmega said:
Neither do I but unlike you I dont want them killed before they get to be women. Lefties killed more females today by noon than Hitler did on all of his days in power.
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You want them killed after they become women. You want women forced to give birth against their will where they could die. Do they also have to wear red cloaks and white hats per the handmaid's tale?

Its barbaric.

Tell me....would you put a woman in prison if she had an abortion? Let's say she was raped

Asking for a friend
 
AlphaOmega said:
See post 97. Work out your stance with your fellow pro choicers then come to a general consensus before making statements. You guys are not in agreement on this.
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Anti choicers don't agree on everything, so why would pro choicers?
 
Scrabaholic said:
Anti choicers don't agree on everything, so why would pro choicers?
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Because the pro choicers are the ones killing innocent human beings so I would expect you all to at least agree on whether or not it is a human being and at the very least whether or not it is alive.
 
AlphaOmega said:
Because the pro choicers are the ones killing innocent human beings so I would expect you all to at least agree on whether or not it is a human being and at the very least whether or not it is alive.
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Should a raped woman be allowed an abortion?


There is much dissension in you pro lifers about this? Why?
 
vegas giants said:
It's a human. Dont parse words. A brain dead patient is still a human. It's fine to kill both. Dont shy away from the truth.

Embrace it
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Except it is not a human being, if the brain is dead, than the thing that made him/her human is gone. And yes, one should let a living dead person go. And I do support both freedom of choice and the right to choose euthanasia. And proud to do so.
 
AlphaOmega said:
See post 97. Work out your stance with your fellow pro choicers then come to a general consensus before making statements. You guys are not in agreement on this.
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And why should we agree to a consensus? You do know that we are all different kind of people with one point of view that is very important to us, the right of women to choose and to fight intolerant people who hate women's rights.
 
Peter King said:
Except it is not a human being, if the brain is dead, than the thing that made him/her human is gone. And yes, one should let a living dead person go. And I do support both freedom of choice and the right to choose euthanasia. And proud to do so.
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Dude quit parsing words. Thete is no such thing as a living dead person. This is just stupid. It's a human and we kill it. Its fine.....let's be honest
 
Peter King said:
And why should we agree to a consensus? You do know that we are all different kind of people with one point of view that is very important to us, the right of women to choose and to fight intolerant people who hate women's rights.
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Oh you don't. I prefer you all to disagree on this. It just proves my point.
 
vegas giants said:
Dude quit parsing words. Thete is no such thing as a living dead person. This is just stupid. It's a human and we kill it. Its fine.....let's be honest
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I am talking about a human being, and it is a living dead person. If someone is brain dead and kept alive by machines or by the basic fact that his brain stem still functions and nothing more, than he is alive and dead at the same time. And if you disagree with that, fine, it is my opinion and I stand by it.
 
AlphaOmega said:
Neither do I but unlike you I dont want them killed before they get to be women. Lefties killed more females today by noon than Hitler did on all of his days in power.
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Link to factually support this rather ridiculous positive claim., or are you going to dodge meeting your Burden of Proof ? ( again )
 
Peter King said:
I am talking about a human being, and it is a living dead person. If someone is brain dead and kept alive by machines or by the basic fact that his brain stem still functions and nothing more, than he is alive and dead at the same time. And if you disagree with that, fine, it is my opinion and I stand by it.
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a living dead person....absolutely hilarious.
 
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