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This really makes it sound like a Border Patrol agent tried to kill an anti-ICE activist in Chicago and DHS lied to cover for him

OK. So now you have proof that no vehicle ran into an ICE vehicle. The proof you have is a video that doesn't show a collision but DOES have a narrator that says the collision happened after the vehicles passed the security camera. More than that, it's your contention that ICE lied about the whole incident and has no evidence. That would be one HECK off a lie.
ICE hires off the street aren’t practiced at provoking yet
 
The problem is people aren't feeling the ridiculousness of what Trump is doing. It only affects a minority of people so a lot of them justify it.

Not in the Los Angeles area.

We’re in day 120 of ICEd L.A. and local rapid response teams are only capable of catching on video a fraction of raids and kidnappings that are keeping us safe from darker skinned car wash workers.

Batons breaking car windows, people being violently dragged from their vehicles, abandoned vehicles left in streets, often with tools of the driver’s trade — these images and more are on our collective consciousness.

Then again, DJT only received c one-third of the vote in L.A. County, and Harris won in Ventura, Orange, and San Diego counties Probably why ICE is here in the first place.
 
Not in the Los Angeles area.

We’re in day 120 of ICEd L.A. and local rapid response teams are only capable of catching on video a fraction of raids and kidnappings that are keeping us safe from darker skinned car wash workers.

Batons breaking car windows, people being violently dragged from their vehicles, abandoned vehicles left in streets, often with tools of the driver’s trade — these images and more are on our collective consciousness.

Then again, DJT only received c one-third of the vote in L.A. County, and Harris won in Ventura, Orange, and San Diego counties Probably why ICE is here in the first place.
Yeah but you know what I mean when I say only a small fraction of the country is getting affected by this.

I'm not trying to minimize it but I was just making the point that the general population worries more about how far there next pay check is going to go.
 
What happened to the video? I saw the original post, the woman drove up into the officers. Why don't you show the video, the original.
Gee, I wonder why the DHS and ICE are not releasing the body camera video. Pr3oblem for them, a local beauty salon caught the whole thing so eventually, we will se what really happened.
 
I was reminded every day. Can't blame anyone besides the voter who put him in power. You're victim blaming.

Even now how bad it is right now people are still justifying this shit. Are you blaming Democrats for that also?

I give credit that Dems that they're normally on the right side of most problems. For some reason Republicans propaganda works and I can't figure out why b

No, the Democrats aren't the victims here, except maybe victims of their own ineptitude.

They were the ones who insisted on running Biden even though it was clear he was a few tacos short of a combination platter. I get that no one wanted to tell the leader of your party who has dedicated a lifetime to your cause, it was time to step down, but someone should have had that conversation long before they did.

I don't think either side is completely right. Biden was wrong for letting so many unvetted immigrants in. Trump is wrong for terrorizing immigrants who are otherwise not causing problems and in some cases are leading exemplary lives. And I say this as the son of an immigrant and the husband of an immigrant.
 
No, the Democrats aren't the victims here, except maybe victims of their own ineptitude.

They were the ones who insisted on running Biden even though it was clear he was a few tacos short of a combination platter. I get that no one wanted to tell the leader of your party who has dedicated a lifetime to your cause, it was time to step down, but someone should have had that conversation long before they did.

I don't think either side is completely right. Biden was wrong for letting so many unvetted immigrants in. Trump is wrong for terrorizing immigrants who are otherwise not causing problems and in some cases are leading exemplary lives. And I say this as the son of an immigrant and the husband of an immigrant.
Your blaming Democrats for people voting for Trump. That's ridiculous. Hold the people accountable for the choices they make and it was clear as day what type of president Trump was going to be.
 
So we don't ACTUALLY have video available that proves ICE was lying but we DO have a lawyer for the defense that SAYS there's such video. The video we do have (from the link in the Tweet) does show several vehicles crowding the ICE vehicle and even shows the vehicle they say Martinez was driving on the oncoming traffic side of the road as she's harassing the ICE vehicle.

OK, in liberal land that's GOT to be enough to prove that ICE is lying and chose to just shoot a woman that was minding her own business. In the REAL world it doesn't lead to that conclusion but we seem to have left the real world behind in late 2016.


My god you're predictable
 
Once again cops show that they will blatantly lie even when contradicted by video evidence and the prosecutors won’t charge them with falsifying charges or lying under oath.

That's a bit of a problem from the justice system. These people need to be charged and removed.
 
No, the Democrats aren't the victims here, except maybe victims of their own ineptitude.

They were the ones who insisted on running Biden even though it was clear he was a few tacos short of a combination platter. I get that no one wanted to tell the leader of your party who has dedicated a lifetime to your cause, it was time to step down, but someone should have had that conversation long before they did.

I don't think either side is completely right. Biden was wrong for letting so many unvetted immigrants in. Trump is wrong for terrorizing immigrants who are otherwise not causing problems and in some cases are leading exemplary lives. And I say this as the son of an immigrant and the husband of an immigrant.


I have yet to see any proof that as the case.

Trump keeps saying it.,.....but Trump has never told the truth
 
Have you guys noticed their are no MAGAs in this thread screaming about how she had every right to be armed and should have returned fire??

You know whyte, right?

That probably would have gotten her killed though.
 
I have yet to see any proof that as the case.

Trump keeps saying it.,.....but Trump has never told the truth
This is why I just laugh when they say that shit.
 
Every Republican president since Teddy Roosevelt oversaw a recession. Trump will definitely cause one before his term is over. The way Republicans have managed to convince the public they are worthy custodians of the economy is incredible.


Technically you are in a recession now.

The economy has been receding since Trump's first tariff announcement and will continue to decline for the next three to five years.

Want a free house. Check out Las Vegas. Everyone is leaving and tourism is only down 28%!
 
Not in the Los Angeles area.

We’re in day 120 of ICEd L.A. and local rapid response teams are only capable of catching on video a fraction of raids and kidnappings that are keeping us safe from darker skinned car wash workers.

Batons breaking car windows, people being violently dragged from their vehicles, abandoned vehicles left in streets, often with tools of the driver’s trade — these images and more are on our collective consciousness.

Then again, DJT only received c one-third of the vote in L.A. County, and Harris won in Ventura, Orange, and San Diego counties Probably why ICE is here in the first place.


Revenge politics.

That will ensure a healthy tomorrow
 
Technically you are in a recession now.

The economy has been receding since Trump's first tariff announcement and will continue to decline for the next three to five years.

Want a free house. Check out Las Vegas. Everyone is leaving and tourism is only down 28%!
For additional humor, look at the housing market in Florida.
 
For additional humor, look at the housing market in Florida.


My last ever binge drunk was in Florida. Actually here was far too much LSD involved to be even close to drunk.

Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas was a kiddie picnic by comparison.
 
Hey, Portland (warzone) is a bit better



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I have yet to see any proof that as the case.

Trump keeps saying it.,.....but Trump has never told the truth

We can't even get a good number of HOW many immigrants Biden let in, much less whether or not they were vetted or not.

And given how many of them went on to commit some horrific crimes, it was clear they weren't vetted.
 
We can't even get a good number of HOW many immigrants Biden let in, much less whether or not they were vetted or not.

And given how many of them went on to commit some horrific crimes, it was clear they weren't vetted.

So it's yet another bullshit claim by MAGA....

Thought so.

Look, unless you can document whatever it is your claiming, it will be considered a fabrication/bullshit.

Unless you can honestly claim Donald Trump NEVER LIES......

Yeah...bullshit
 
So it's yet another bullshit claim by MAGA....

Thought so.

Look, unless you can document whatever it is your claiming, it will be considered a fabrication/bullshit.

Unless you can honestly claim Donald Trump NEVER LIES......

Yeah...bullshit

Donald Trump lies all the time.

So it's my job to determine how many undocumented immigrants Joe Autopen let into the country,


 
Oh, no, no, no, no. I want a Democratic government with balls willing to do good and justice to the same degree Trump's is willing to do evil and injustice. I'm talking full-on HUAC public trials against ICE officers, Trump officials, and Republican Congresspersons and state officers. And all accused are to be held in a humane, well-run facility like Alligator Alcatraz while awaiting their trials.

I want the same things but I also plan on VOTING FOR them.
I hope you will do the same.
 
Donald Trump lies all the time.

So it's my job to determine how many undocumented immigrants Joe Autopen let into the country,



Sounds like they were doing a fine job.
You see, "encounters" doesn't mean they got it, it means CBP encountered them, made contact, which also likely means they arrested most of them.
Do you think 10.8 million just walked in?
 
Donald Trump lies all the time.

So it's my job to determine how many undocumented immigrants Joe Autopen let into the country,



Joe who?
 
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