This morning Trump declared defacto martial law because of one broken windshield, do you support it?

[CaughtInThe]

 

[Lord of Planar]

DO you get the feeling that Trump is playing the clueless exactly the way he wants?

Myself, I get that impression. Then the left goes out of its way to twist and spin to the fullest negative, then he surprises them and makes them look like the fools they are.

Seen that many time. Is it by accident, or planned? I suspect it is 100% planned.

I don't expect idiot Newsom or Bass to publicly acknowledge the violent protesters in L.A. are playing right into the hands of Trump.

Agreed.

Trump knows the media have no choice but to display images of anarchic protesters committing a number of violent acts which have nothing at all to do with protesting the way ICE is sweeping up illegal aliens.

And almost all of the lefties in politics, enabling them by not condensing it, but being 100% hypocritical in their outrage.

I have believed since the election, the way the left is going insane over Trump, that they will lose very badly in 2026.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Except on Jan 6th?....

Jesus. that happened so fast. Get over it. He did try to talk them down.

 

[What if...?]

DO you get the feeling that Trump is playing the clueless exactly the way he wants?
I don't expect idiot Newsom or Bass to publicly acknowledge the violent protesters in L.A. are playing right into the hands of Trump.
Trump knows the media have no choice but to display images of anarchic protesters committing a number of violent acts which have nothing at all to do with protesting the way ICE is sweeping up illegal aliens.

I call it “provocation for effect”.

So he can be the king he dreams of being.

So our capitalists can stay in the game as authoritarian regimes give their players the advantage of a captive workforce.

No democracy will tolerate the deprivation the final rounds of “who can be the richest most powerful person in the world” will require.

Which is why authoritarianism is on the rise globally.

 

[Absentglare]

Have you suddenly lost your freedom to buy and own a gun for personal use? Are you wise enough to stay from those idiots who believe it is smart to taunt and confront soldiers carrying guns to maintain order.

If they’re replacing law enforcement, then they’re illegally imposing martial law.

If they’re not, then they’re being used as props to escalate violence.

In neither case are they imposing any sense of order, unless your idea of order is feeding your hatred with authoritarian suppression of your political opponents.

 

[Absentglare]

If you are setting cars on fire and throwing rocks at police and/or federal agents, it's no longer protest, its violence and not protected behavior anymore.

Those few people who are violent should be arrested.

The woman just trying to get home who was shot is horrible.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Those few people who are violent should be arrested.

The woman just trying to get home who was shot is horrible.

Yep.

Shot by LAPD who cannot do things right.

Have you seen the video? I have. None of president Trumps team were involved.

 

[Absentglare]

I'm OK with Trump deploying the military against a mob that outnumbers police and is trying to murder police officers.

Yeah I’m aware that many of you approve of killing people like me because you’re terrified that hispanic folks might not get through all of your bureaucratic red tape.

 

[Lutherf]

Trump’s memo conflates protest with rebellion, he has now openly declared that he will be suppressing our constitutional rights with our military.

Why are you defending this? No one can force you to defend this.

What else would it be called? When people rise up against the enforcement of the law of a nation then that's a rebellion.

 

[Absentglare]

Neither you or I are cops who are getting huge rocks tossed through our cruiser windshields from overpasses. That's attempted murder. Oh, and not getting commercial-grade fireworks launched at us either.

Trump is attempting murder with his political theater.

He’s insecure that Biden was stronger on deportations so now he’s launching his stunt raids and illegally sending in the military to provoke violence.

 

[Absentglare]

Had there been no riots, do you think he would have sent in the NG? I rather think not.


He specifically stated that he'd call out the NG should ICE agents doing their duty were attacked by rioters?
I'm rather skeptical that he stated those specifics, and think it far more likely a mischaracterization, as the left always seems to do, with Trump.


No, I'm not.


With a peaceful protest, local LE stands around watching the protest, making sure that way.
This is not what we are seeing in LA, where ICE agents are being physically assaulted with weapons, and threatened - being put a greater risk - by their doxxing.

Trump was planning on creating riots before he was even elected. He talked about it.

“I think the bigger problem are the people from within. We have some very bad people. We have some sick people. Radical left lunatics,” Trump said told Fox News’ Maria Bartiromo in an interview on “Sunday Morning Futures.”

“I think it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen,” he added.

He intended to escalate, to provoke violence. You are defending a horrible person, someone who inflicts terror on the American public because it helps him grab more personal power.

You can’t doxx police officers, they work for us. We pay them to enforce the law, we need them to identify themselves. Otherwise, anyone can impersonate an officer and kidnap people, this is a recipe for chaos and violence.

 

[Mycroft]

Except on Jan 6th?....

On J6, law enforcement was the attacker.

 

[trixare4kids]

protest all you want just don't destroy property or get in the way of the authorities doing their jobs

not hard to understand

Really, what is so hard for some to understand? Has the Trump angst gotten so bad that they've lost common sense. It simply ceases to become a legal protest when one steps over the line and breaks the law.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Really, what is so hard for some to understand? Has the Trump angst gotten so bad that they've lost common sense. It simply ceases to become a legal protest when one steps over the line and breaks the law.

Sure, and why there's a chasm in the messaging from this administration because on the one hand it states everyone should protest peacefully and respect the police, but then its leader pardons people who rioted and assaulted police and destroyed property.

 

[Absentglare]

No one in their right minds will accuse peaceful protesters of rebellion.

Correct. And yet MAGA is doing exactly that.

The "peaceful protesters" are taking a back seat to the violent rioters, anarchists, and nihilists who really don't give a shit about aliens, illegal or otherwise.

No they aren’t, right wing propaganda is hyping up the “violent protestors”, it’s over blown to manipulate viewers into not being in their right minds. That’s why they’re excusing these illegal military deployments on American soil.

They're of the same stripe as the George Floyd BLM-led rioters who caused billions of dollars of damage all over the country in 2020.
When will the clueless Dems learn the lessons from 2020?

Ironic.

If they can't control rioters in their own sanctuary cities, then they should expect federal intervention to quell such violence.

Everything was under control before Trump launched his campaign of violence.

The following is from my favorite WSJ columnist Jason Riley:

The L.A. Riots Hand Republicans a Political Edge​

Trump is overreaching in his deportation efforts, but voters will care more about the violence in the streets.​

"Democrats are no less guilty of selective outrage. They rightly condemned the attack on the Capitol, yet they (Democrats) have made excuses for everything from violence against Jews on college campuses to arson and looting at Black Lives Matter demonstrations."
"Everyone knows that border security was the president’s top issue when he campaigned for a second term, and polls show that voters trust Republicans far more than Democrats to deal with illegal immigration. Unlawful entries have dropped dramatically this year, but millions of unvetted migrants were allowed into the country under Mr. Trump’s predecessor, and the current administration has vowed to track them down.

The party out of power is learning again that elections have consequences. What Democrats apparently haven’t learned is that street chaos—and those who defend it—plays to the president’s political strengths. Protesters in Los Angeles who are torching vehicles and defacing public buildings with calls for violence aren’t helping their cause. Nor are Democratic officials who are unwilling to acknowledge the role that their crime-friendly policies have played in bringing matters to a head."

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-ice-riots-hand-republicans-a-political-edge-immigration-policy-6aec9ba8?mod=opinion_recentauth_pos2&mod=opinion_recentauth_pos_2

Propaganda.

 

[Absentglare]

Sorry.

I do not entertain your conspiracy theory. I'll bet you can find others in that forum that agree with you.

Trump admitted before the election that he was planning to deploy the military against hypothetical protests from the left that only existed in his mind.

That is proof that he was planning to create this situation, which he did.

 

[Absentglare]

What else would it be called? When people rise up against the enforcement of the law of a nation then that's a rebellion.

You think all political protest is rebellion?

 

[Lord of Planar]

Trump admitted before the election that he was planning to deploy the military against hypothetical protests from the left that only existed in his mind.

That is proof that he was planning to create this situation, which he did.

No it isn't. He promised not to allow riots like the Biden administration has. the situation of riots needs to be squelched.

 

[Lutherf]

You think all political protest is rebellion?

Feel free to protest political policy but we're talking about the law here. We have had administrations going back DECADES that IGNORED immigration law and in doing so established the circumstances which this president is trying to correct. This administration has chosen to ENFORCE the law and left wing lunatics are protesting that and hindering the process of correcting DECADES of abuse.

 

[Absentglare]

No it isn't. He promised not to allow riots like the Biden administration has.

He planned to create this situation, he admitted it was his plan. You accused me of a conspiracy theory, he told us he’d do this: use the military against our people.

How are you okay with this?

 

[Lord of Planar]

You think all political protest is rebellion?

Why can't you see the difference between peaceful protests and riots?

 

[Absentglare]

Feel free to protest political policy but we're talking about the law here. We have had administrations going back DECADES that IGNORED immigration law and in doing so established the circumstances which this president is trying to correct. This administration has chosen to ENFORCE the law and left wing lunatics are protesting that and hindering the process of correcting DECADES of abuse.

YOUR side created this situation. Here’s one of your prime economists, bragging about it:



Republicans wanted a sub-class of laborers who are denied welfare that lawful residents are entitled to. You created the bureaucratic red tape that arbitrarily made them all “illegal”. You’re so mad they didn’t fill out your big government paperwork, you launch these crazy raids all over blue cities to provoke violence. Now you send in the marines with live ammo to quell the justified outrage you produced.

It’s a manufactured crisis of violence against our people. It’s sick, disgusting.

 

[Lutherf]

YOUR side created this situation. Here’s one of your prime economists, bragging about it:



Republicans wanted a sub-class of laborers who are denied welfare that lawful residents are entitled to. You created the bureaucratic red tape that arbitrarily made them all “illegal”. You’re so mad they didn’t fill out your big government paperwork, you launch these crazy raids all over blue cities to provoke violence. Now you send in the marines with live ammo to quell the justified outrage you produced.

It’s a manufactured crisis of violence against our people. It’s sick, disgusting.

The INA was enacted in 1952. Truman was president then.

 

[eohrnberger]

Correct. And yet MAGA is doing exactly that.

No they aren’t, right wing propaganda is hyping up the “violent protestors”, it’s over blown to manipulate viewers into not being in their right minds.

This statement is irony in the extreme since those exact narratives have been constantly pushed from the left and their media political activists on a near daily basis since Jan 6th.

That’s why they’re excusing these illegal military deployments on American soil.


Ironic.

Everything was under control before Trump launched his campaign of violence.

Propaganda.

 

[jaypatriot]

Correct. And yet MAGA is doing exactly that.


No they aren’t, right wing propaganda is hyping up the “violent protestors”, it’s over blown to manipulate viewers into not being in their right minds. That’s why they’re excusing these illegal military deployments on American soil.

Ironic.

Everything was under control before Trump launched his campaign of violence.

Propaganda.

So now we're in the middle of an "he said; he said" debate.
Who do you think is winning? What does the public think or don't you care how the majority of citizens feel about the violent riot in L.A.?
Does your righteous indignation over troops deployed to L.A. have any weight at all in any debate?
You're wrong but you can't admit it.