This map shows Trump won a majority vote in 3,084 of the 3,141 counties!!!!

[Tangmo]

It is a fact.

You cannot deny the numbers that are out there.

The election is about voters -- the voters.

So yes, let's look at the numbers, because the Right Sector refuses to look at the numbers and the facts.

The Electoral College Vote vote is determinative and it is decided by voters, in each state, yes. Winner of the Popular Vote in each state decides the state's ECV for Potus, yes, of course, as everyone knows.

Then there is the aggregate of the voters' votes of all 50 states, i.e., the total of the 50 states added up and combined. The National Popular Vote. The aggregate expressed statement of the voters -- all the voters of the United States totaled and combined. In the aggregate.

Historically, a difference in the ECV and the PV is always big news. Why? Because it is about voters, and how people vote. To deny the validity of either the EVC or the Aggregate PV is to deny each of 'em -- both of 'em.

Elections in USA are about voters. 1) The Electoral College Vote as determined by the voters in each state & DC. 2) The Aggregate Popular Vote of the voters of the United States. To deny one is to deny the other. These are the numbers and these are the facts.

Denial of the numbers and the facts is futile, illogical, self-revealing and self-defeating. There are two categories of votes and voting in the United States -- ECV and PV. To deny one is to deny both.

 

[Port & Starboard]

The election is about voters -- the voters.

So yes, let's look at the numbers, because the Right Sector refuses to look at the numbers and the facts.

The Electoral College Vote vote is determinative and it is decided by voters, in each state, yes. Winner of the Popular Vote in each state decides the state's ECV for Potus, yes, of course, as everyone knows.

Then there is the aggregate of the voters' votes of all 50 states, i.e., the total of the 50 states added up and combined. The National Popular Vote. The aggregate expressed statement of the voters -- all the voters of the United States totaled and combined. In the aggregate.

Historically, a difference in the ECV and the PV is always big news. Why? Because it is about voters, and how people vote. To deny the validity of either the EVC or the Aggregate PV is to deny each of 'em -- both of 'em.

Elections in USA are about voters. 1) The Electoral College Vote as determined by the voters in each state & DC. 2) The Aggregate Popular Vote of the voters of the United States. To deny one is to deny the other. These are the numbers and these are the facts.

Denial of the numbers and the facts is futile, illogical, self-revealing and self-defeating. There are two categories of votes and voting in the United States -- ECV and PV. To deny one is to deny both.

The EC was genius.....period!

 

[Tangmo]

It is a fact.

You cannot deny the numbers that are out there.

There are two sets of numbers "out there" that the Right Sector have failed to acknowledge much less respect.

That is a fact.

The two are ECV and the PV. They exist and function in tandem and they are complementary. Dismissing one equally dismisses the other, either way.

One needs to recognize and to respect and honor each one of 'em and both of 'em.

The EC is what it is and the PV is what it is. Each serves a valid function and purpose. Each is based on the voter. The voter in each state and the voter as a part of the aggregate national vote. Each needs to be respected.

Those are the numbers right here. And now. That's a fact. Recognize it. Accept it. Honor each set of numbers. It is the Constitutional thing to do.

 

[Excon]

Thanks for further proving the point I and others make.

iLOL Nothing was proven.

Which means we could indeed move on.

And yet you don't even after your arguments have been exposed as irrelevant nonsense.

However, the Right Sector hasn't any issues so it in its crank views simply says everything is wrong. Absent issues, the standard method is to personalize those who do discuss issues.

Doh!
And yet you were the one trying to personalize this.
Hilarious.

This poster has provided electoral maps that present various valid views of Potus elections nationally, to include from the standpoint of counties and on to GDP.

Doh!
And again. What you provided is irrelevant to how the President gets elected. Just as the other information was.
And what you provided was also irrelevant to the number of counties won, which happens to be the topic of this thread.
Your inability to limit yourself to what is being discussed is not my problem.

The Electoral College of the States is determinative. However, elections are about voters period.

To emphasize the point, elections are about voters period.

The Popular Vote is determinative in the Electoral College Vote of each state and it positively speaks a national voter voice when viewed in the aggregate. Aggregation is a valid point in numbers, i.e., quantitatively. Even though a discrepancy in the ECV and the PV always gets a great attention, we are here because the Right Sector in this election denies completely anything outside the ECV. That is, you deny the voter as a voter outside of the Electoral College.


It is in each election cycle a national election by each state = ECVs. Then there is the national aggregate of the votes of each voter in all 50 states. To deny one is to deny the other. So the arguments of the Right Sector in this particular election cycle are self-defeating, contradictory, absurd.

We are talking about voters and votes in two concomitant contexts: state by state, and in the national aggregate. Face it. Recognize it. Accept it. Because to deny one is to deny the other.

Oy vey!
You have said absolutely nothing of import here in regards to the disagreement between us.

There are two sets of numbers "out there" that the Right Sector have failed to acknowledge much less respect.

That is a fact.

The two are ECV and the PV. They exist and function in tandem and they are complementary. Dismissing one equally dismisses the other, either way.

One needs to recognize and to respect and honor each one of 'em and both of 'em.

The EC is what it is and the PV is what it is. Each serves a valid function and purpose. Each is based on the voter. The voter in each state and the voter as a part of the aggregate national vote. Each needs to be respected.

Those are the numbers right here. And now. That's a fact. Recognize it. Accept it. Honor each set of numbers. It is the Constitutional thing to do.

The Popular vote at a national level is irrelevant.

 

[Tangmo]

iLOL Nothing was proven.


And yet you don't even after your arguments have been exposed as irrelevant nonsense.


Doh!
And yet you were the one trying to personalize this.
Hilarious.


Doh!
And again. What you provided is irrelevant to how the President gets elected. Just as the other information was.
And what you provided was also irrelevant to the number of counties won, which happens to be the topic of this thread.
Your inability to limit yourself to what is being discussed is not my problem.


Oy vey!
You have said absolutely nothing of import here in regards to the disagreement between us.



The Popular vote at a national level is irrelevant.

If you were a judge and only if, then your arbitrary and summary diktat might be worth more than zero. As you are not a judge, the pronouncement and declaration are out of the blue so they are worth less than zero. Any judge will tell you that what you mean to say is that the National Aggregate Popular Vote is immaterial, but that it is relevant. Relevant indeed.

(Your arguments are either so weak or non-existent that we have to give them to you: The National Aggregate Popular Vote is immaterial but relevant in respect of the election outcome.)

This is true because the election is about the voter. Each individual voter. All the voters, first and materially by state in all states plus DC; then relevantly all the voters in the Aggregate Popular Vote of the 50 states. However, youse miss the entire equation, i.e., the material factor and then the relevant factor.

So in denying the PV and its relevance you ignore both factors to the election. What you need to admit and to agrue is that the National Aggregate Popular Vote is not material to the outcome, but it is a relevant factor in it. That is where the argument is (and you'll lose that argument too).

Youse know and understand that you choose to deny the PV and its relevance. However, the denial further de-legitimizes the Trump election win and by extension the Trump presidency. In other words, your denials of the relevancy of the PV intensify and aggravate the nervous nature of the Trump ECV win. You accomplish this dubious goal by limiting the Trump win to one dimension only of the dual dimension election process and outcome, i.e., the material ECV only, when the Potus election centers on the ECV and the relevant PV, which make them complementary.

So youse deny each and every voter yes, because when the Right Sector denies the vote of one voter, you deny the vote of each and every single voter.

This is therefore a bad beginning of the Trump presidency which is hardly off to a great start given so many Americans disrespect and dislike the man to begin with. Further delegitimizing Trump by dismissing the Popular Vote and its relevancy is, well, anti popular vote.

 

[Tangmo]

iLOL Nothing was proven.


And yet you don't even after your arguments have been exposed as irrelevant nonsense.


Doh!
And yet you were the one trying to personalize this.
Hilarious.


Doh!
And again. What you provided is irrelevant to how the President gets elected. Just as the other information was.
And what you provided was also irrelevant to the number of counties won, which happens to be the topic of this thread.
Your inability to limit yourself to what is being discussed is not my problem.


Oy vey!
You have said absolutely nothing of import here in regards to the disagreement between us.



The Popular vote at a national level is irrelevant.

It is immaterial but it is not irrelevant.

By trying to reject the Aggregate National Popular Vote, and by rejecting it in the absolute, the Right Sector says a Potus Trump can ignore the Aggregate National Popular Vote and voters.

Which means youse and Trump have no intentions of being unifiers. It means youse fully intend on being dividers and conquerors. Trump will represent and pursue the interests of the Right Sector only.

Trump has focused on his base only from day one and Trump intends to focus on his base only till the (bitter) end.

Not good.

 

[Moderate Right]

The election is about voters -- the voters.

So yes, let's look at the numbers, because the Right Sector refuses to look at the numbers and the facts.

The Electoral College Vote vote is determinative and it is decided by voters, in each state, yes. Winner of the Popular Vote in each state decides the state's ECV for Potus, yes, of course, as everyone knows.

Then there is the aggregate of the voters' votes of all 50 states, i.e., the total of the 50 states added up and combined. The National Popular Vote. The aggregate expressed statement of the voters -- all the voters of the United States totaled and combined. In the aggregate.

Historically, a difference in the ECV and the PV is always big news. Why? Because it is about voters, and how people vote. To deny the validity of either the EVC or the Aggregate PV is to deny each of 'em -- both of 'em.

Elections in USA are about voters. 1) The Electoral College Vote as determined by the voters in each state & DC. 2) The Aggregate Popular Vote of the voters of the United States. To deny one is to deny the other. These are the numbers and these are the facts.

Denial of the numbers and the facts is futile, illogical, self-revealing and self-defeating. There are two categories of votes and voting in the United States -- ECV and PV. To deny one is to deny both.

So why do you deny the EV?

 

[Moderate Right]

It is immaterial but it is not irrelevant.

By trying to reject the Aggregate National Popular Vote, and by rejecting it in the absolute, the Right Sector says a Potus Trump can ignore the Aggregate National Popular Vote and voters.

Which means youse and Trump have no intentions of being unifiers. It means youse fully intend on being dividers and conquerors. Trump will represent and pursue the interests of the Right Sector only.

Trump has focused on his base only from day one and Trump intends to focus on his base only till the (bitter) end.

Not good.

You can't go changing the rules after the vote. Trump played by the rules by going after the electoral vote. If the rules would have been the president is elected by the popular vote, Trump would have gone after the popular vote. You just assume that if the president was elected by popular vote that the vote totals would not have been any different than they were. You can only assume that if you are partisan. By the way, not only did Trump win the presidency but popular votes over the last few years have put Republicans in charge of the Senate and the House, so the voters have given the Republicans a mandate. If they blow it then they blow it and you can say I told you so in 4 to 8 years.

 

[independentusa]

What I find interesting is that the GOP and Trump are pushing that without NewYork and California, Ttump would have won by 3 milliion votes. Don't know if that is true are just another one of those half truths they put out there. But if you believe it, then the Dems could say that without Texas and Florida Clinton would have won the Electorial College vote. Both make little sense. OUr election process is what it is until we decide to change it if ever.

 

[Tangmo]

So why do you deny the EV?

The accusation is wrong and it is wrong in the absolute. (Deciphering from your question you mean the Electoral College Vote, the ECV.)

Donald Trump is Potus-Elect so let's begin for the first time to talk about facts because this is a fact and it is undisputed globally. Show me a post of mine in which I deny the Electoral College Vote. I rather accept it. It is in the Constitution.

Youse guyz over there, in this election, dismiss in the absolute its concomitant factor, the Popular Vote. Youse guyz over there deny the vote and the voters in their expression by the Aggregate National Popular Vote.

If you are going to deny one, then you must necessarily deny the other. Yet youse deny the Popular Vote only. I deny neither. So it's not that you don't know anything, or that you don't understand. Youse know fully well that you are denying the Aggregate National Popular Vote.

You want to see only a Republic but not a democracy. I see both which is the Constitutional mandate and guarantee. In USA Republic and Democracy function in tandem. Can't have one without the other. Capiche?

 

[Tangmo]

You can't go changing the rules after the vote. Trump played by the rules by going after the electoral vote. If the rules would have been the president is elected by the popular vote, Trump would have gone after the popular vote. You just assume that if the president was elected by popular vote that the vote totals would not have been any different than they were. You can only assume that if you are partisan. By the way, not only did Trump win the presidency but popular votes over the last few years have put Republicans in charge of the Senate and the House, so the voters have given the Republicans a mandate. If they blow it then they blow it and you can say I told you so in 4 to 8 years.

The rules have existed since 1789.

We have the same rules today as we had November 7th, the day before the election and since 1789. So the accusation in the post is false, misconceived, or misinformed. That is, wrong.

Let's try some information instead for a change.

The Rule is that the Popular Vote is immaterial to the outcome of an election of Potus, but that it is relevant. The Aggregate National Popular Vote is the combined sum total of the voters in all the 50 states plus DC.

Rule Number One of democratic voting in a political system of democracy as proscribed in the Constitution is to respect the voter. To respect the vote of the voter. To respect the voters and their expression of their vote.

The Electoral College does override the directly expressed will of the voter, however, the Electoral College does not deny voters their legitimacy. The Electoral College can deny voters their popular choice, but the EC cannot in any way dismiss the Popular Vote as irrelevant. The Aggregate National Popular Vote is immaterial but it is not irrelevant. It is relevant and it has particular meaning, significance, impact.

So to deny one is to deny the other, PV and ECV. Youse do in fact deny one, the National Aggregate Popular Vote, which puts you in a precarious position (at best). I deny neither the ECV nor the PV. I accept both. The bottom line in this election is that if you deny one vote, or deny one of the two elements, then you deny all votes and youse deny both concomitant and tandem factors, PV and ECV. This is not good for democracy.

 

[Excon]

If you were a judge and only if, then your arbitrary and summary diktat might be worth more than zero. As you are not a judge, the pronouncement and declaration are out of the blue so they are worth less than zero. Any judge will tell you that what you mean to say is that the National Aggregate Popular Vote is immaterial, but that it is relevant. Relevant indeed.

(Your arguments are either so weak or non-existent that we have to give them to you: The National Aggregate Popular Vote is immaterial but relevant in respect of the election outcome.)

This is true because the election is about the voter. Each individual voter. All the voters, first and materially by state in all states plus DC; then relevantly all the voters in the Aggregate Popular Vote of the 50 states. However, youse miss the entire equation, i.e., the material factor and then the relevant factor.

So in denying the PV and its relevance you ignore both factors to the election. What you need to admit and to agrue is that the National Aggregate Popular Vote is not material to the outcome, but it is a relevant factor in it. That is where the argument is (and you'll lose that argument too).

Youse know and understand that you choose to deny the PV and its relevance. However, the denial further de-legitimizes the Trump election win and by extension the Trump presidency. In other words, your denials of the relevancy of the PV intensify and aggravate the nervous nature of the Trump ECV win. You accomplish this dubious goal by limiting the Trump win to one dimension only of the dual dimension election process and outcome, i.e., the material ECV only, when the Potus election centers on the ECV and the relevant PV, which make them complementary.

So youse deny each and every voter yes, because when the Right Sector denies the vote of one voter, you deny the vote of each and every single voter.

This is therefore a bad beginning of the Trump presidency which is hardly off to a great start given so many Americans disrespect and dislike the man to begin with. Further delegitimizing Trump by dismissing the Popular Vote and its relevancy is, well, anti popular vote.

It is immaterial but it is not irrelevant.

By trying to reject the Aggregate National Popular Vote, and by rejecting it in the absolute, the Right Sector says a Potus Trump can ignore the Aggregate National Popular Vote and voters.

Which means youse and Trump have no intentions of being unifiers. It means youse fully intend on being dividers and conquerors. Trump will represent and pursue the interests of the Right Sector only.

Trump has focused on his base only from day one and Trump intends to focus on his base only till the (bitter) end.

Not good.

iLOL
You sure are doing lot of typing to say nothing of import.

Nothing you provided was relevant. Not to how the President is elected or to the information in the OP.

 

[Moderate Right]

The accusation is wrong and it is wrong in the absolute. (Deciphering from your question you mean the Electoral College Vote, the ECV.)

Donald Trump is Potus-Elect so let's begin for the first time to talk about facts because this is a fact and it is undisputed globally. Show me a post of mine in which I deny the Electoral College Vote. I rather accept it. It is in the Constitution.

Youse guyz over there, in this election, dismiss in the absolute its concomitant factor, the Popular Vote. Youse guyz over there deny the vote and the voters in their expression by the Aggregate National Popular Vote.

If you are going to deny one, then you must necessarily deny the other. Yet youse deny the Popular Vote only. I deny neither. So it's not that you don't know anything, or that you don't understand. Youse know fully well that you are denying the Aggregate National Popular Vote.

You want to see only a Republic but not a democracy. I see both which is the Constitutional mandate and guarantee. In USA Republic and Democracy function in tandem. Can't have one without the other. Capiche?

Don't dismiss the popular vote at all. Trump won the popular vote in 30/50 states. The popular vote also voted in Republican governors and state houses, a Republican US House and Senate and therefore a conservative Supreme Court. Thank God for the popular vote, of which you actually dismiss.

 

[Moderate Right]

The rules have existed since 1789.

We have the same rules today as we had November 7th, the day before the election and since 1789. So the accusation in the post is false, misconceived, or misinformed. That is, wrong.

Let's try some information instead for a change.

The Rule is that the Popular Vote is immaterial to the outcome of an election of Potus, but that it is relevant. The Aggregate National Popular Vote is the combined sum total of the voters in all the 50 states plus DC.

Rule Number One of democratic voting in a political system of democracy as proscribed in the Constitution is to respect the voter. To respect the vote of the voter. To respect the voters and their expression of their vote.

The Electoral College does override the directly expressed will of the voter, however, the Electoral College does not deny voters their legitimacy. The Electoral College can deny voters their popular choice, but the EC cannot in any way dismiss the Popular Vote as irrelevant. The Aggregate National Popular Vote is immaterial but it is not irrelevant. It is relevant and it has particular meaning, significance, impact.

So to deny one is to deny the other, PV and ECV. Youse do in fact deny one, the National Aggregate Popular Vote, which puts you in a precarious position (at best). I deny neither the ECV nor the PV. I accept both. The bottom line in this election is that if you deny one vote, or deny one of the two elements, then you deny all votes and youse deny both concomitant and tandem factors, PV and ECV. This is not good for democracy.

As I just said in the other post, the popular vote IS material. Trump won the popular vote in 30/50 states, and Republicans won it in governorships, state houses, the US House and the Senate and therefore the Supreme Court. The will of the people has spoken.

 

[Trippy Trekker]

As I just said in the other post, the popular vote IS material. Trump won the popular vote in 30/50 states, and Republicans won it in governorships, state houses, the US House and the Senate and therefore the Supreme Court. The will of the people has spoken.

God Bless America ... and particularly Republican Americans propensity for extreme honesty! Republicans dominated the ranks of those responsible for counting and certifying the votes. Could we have really trusted the process if Democrats dominated the ranks of those responsible for counting and certifying the results? Florida went through this during the Bush-Gore General Election... and the SCOTUS sorted it out for us.

 

[Moderate Right]

God Bless America ... and particularly Republican Americans propensity for extreme honesty! Republicans dominated the ranks of those responsible for counting and certifying the votes. Could we have really trusted the process if Democrats dominated the ranks of those responsible for counting and certifying the results? Florida went through this during the Bush-Gore General Election... and the SCOTUS sorted it out for us.

LOL!!!!!. You guys are absolutely amazing! I thought it was the Russian hacking why Hillary lost? Now you are saying the people who counted and certified the votes did it? Too funny! This is like the tenth thing you have blamed Hillary's loss on. What's next after this one? It's about time Democrats invested in some mirrors. Even Joe Biden has come out recently in admitting that it was their side who lost the election, not everyone else.

 

[Trippy Trekker]

LOL!!!!!. You guys are absolutely amazing! I thought it was the Russian hacking why Hillary lost? Now you are saying the people who counted and certified the votes did it? Too funny! This is like the tenth thing you have blamed Hillary's loss on. What's next after this one? It's about time Democrats invested in some mirrors. Even Joe Biden has come out recently in admitting that it was their side who lost the election, not everyone else.

Did you misread my post? I laud the extreme honesty of Republicans. I thought President-elect Trump explained that if you factored out massive voter fraud, particularly in California where Democrats do most of the voter certification, he would have also won the popular vote.

 

[Moderate Right]

Did you misread my post? I laud the extreme honesty of Republicans. I thought President-elect Trump explained that if you factored out massive voter fraud, particularly in California where Democrats do most of the voter certification, he would have also won the popular vote.

Trump says a lot of things. You can't hold him accountable to one position because he often states the opposite position as well, the Iraq war, just for one example. Even though Trump did say that I think his main point was that if the election were decided by the popular vote then he would have campaigned for the popular vote, including in states such as California and New York. He knew he had no chance of winning the electoral votes in those states so he let Hillary run away with the popular votes there while he went after the popular votes in battleground states and Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Trump had a strategy of winning the election while Hillary's only strategy was to badmouth Trump. The left can't assume that if the election were decided by popular vote only that the actual popular vote count totals would be the same if there was no electoral college. Trump tried to win based on the rules while Hillary only tried to get popular votes. If you want to win the game then you need to play it by the rules, just as Trump did.

 

[Trippy Trekker]

Trump says a lot of things. You can't hold him accountable to one position because he often states the opposite position as well, the Iraq war, just for one example. Even though Trump did say that I think his main point was that if the election were decided by the popular vote then he would have campaigned for the popular vote, including in states such as California and New York. He knew he had no chance of winning the electoral votes in those states so he let Hillary run away with the popular votes there while he went after the popular votes in battleground states and Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Trump had a strategy of winning the election while Hillary's only strategy was to badmouth Trump. The left can't assume that if the election were decided by popular vote only that the actual popular vote count totals would be the same if there was no electoral college. Trump tried to win based on the rules while Hillary only tried to get popular votes. If you want to win the game then you need to play it by the rules, just as Trump did.

I genuinely admire Team Trump's superior winning strategy. I believe the ghost of Machiavelli whispers in the The Donald's ear every night. He entertains me like no other President in my lifetime. Thank you and the many others who routinely explain the variance between what Trump actually says and what he actually means. Genius... truly genius! The sooner I catch on, the better I can adapt to President Trump and the all new TrumpWorld!

 

[Moderate Right]

I genuinely admire Team Trump's superior winning strategy. I believe the ghost of Machiavelli whispers in the The Donald's ear every night. He entertains me like no other President in my lifetime. Thank you and the many others who routinely explain the variance between what Trump actually says and what he actually means. Genius... truly genius! The sooner I catch on, the better I can adapt to President Trump and the all new TrumpWorld!

That's the thing. It doesn't matter what he says and it doesn't matter what he means. It only matters what he actually does and he isn't even president yet. The left constantly wants to take out their crystal balls and judge him by what he says when he hasn't even done anything yet. Personally, I think they will be pleasantly surprised (of course not with everything) and he may be fighting more with the Republican Congress than he will be with the Democrats. But, I don't have a working crystal ball either.

 

[Tangmo]

Don't dismiss the popular vote at all. Trump won the popular vote in 30/50 states. The popular vote also voted in Republican governors and state houses, a Republican US House and Senate and therefore a conservative Supreme Court. Thank God for the popular vote, of which you actually dismiss.

The post talks in a circle of accusation. The accusation is completely opposite and contrary to my expressly and reiterated position. You're making things up because I'm the guy saying to respect the Aggregate National Popular Vote.

You continue persistently to fail again to address the Aggregate Popular Vote.

When you deny one voter, you deny them all. The rambling away from the Potus election and the Aggregate National Popular Vote is an attempt to distract. To deny it. You harm the election of Donal Trump because you deny the voter due to the individual voter being a part of the pro-Clinton Aggregate National Popular Vote.

I don't want a guy as my Potus who denies the vote of any single voter, nevermind tens of millions of 'em. Because denying the vote of one voter who voted against you indicates a selective view of voter legitimacy. Project that to some 65 million voters who voted for Clinton and you're creating a national voter dichotomy of which voter is a good and legit voter vs those voters who are against you so they cheat, the latter to be necessarily dismissed, ignored, discredited. A concocted and false dichotomy.

So given the Republican Party and its history up to the present of voter supression, this is not good in respect of upcoming elections. Especially given so many states are in fact run by Republicans. Because the key is who is accepted as a voter, which is determined by new laws enacted by Republican controlled states. Wisconsin and Michigan are Republican controlled, while Pennsylvania is split. Trump won all three, so it looks like without absolute Democratic Party control of a state, youse guyz are declaring the popular vote good when you like it and bad when youse don't like it. Worse, the voters youse don't like will be stopped.

This is bad bad bad news.

 

[Tangmo]

As I just said in the other post, the popular vote IS material. Trump won the popular vote in 30/50 states, and Republicans won it in governorships, state houses, the US House and the Senate and therefore the Supreme Court. The will of the people has spoken.

Youse consistently and determinedly refuse to acknowledge the Aggregate National Popular vote.

Deny one vote and you deny each voter and all votes.

The post is a deflection and avoidance of and away from the Aggregate National Popular Vote.

Recognize the Aggregate Popular Vote. Accept it. Youse however cannot so you do otherwise, which is to disparage it. This makes Donald Trump look like the voter rolls purger-in-chief to eliminate voters he does not like because we voted against him, while favoring his own fanboyz voters.

 

[Moderate Right]

The post talks in a circle of accusation. The accusation is completely opposite and contrary to my expressly and reiterated position. You're making things up because I'm the guy saying to respect the Aggregate National Popular Vote.

You continue persistently to fail again to address the Aggregate Popular Vote.

When you deny one voter, you deny them all. The rambling away from the Potus election and the Aggregate National Popular Vote is an attempt to distract. To deny it. You harm the election of Donal Trump because you deny the voter due to the individual voter being a part of the pro-Clinton Aggregate National Popular Vote.

I don't want a guy as my Potus who denies the vote of any single voter, nevermind tens of millions of 'em. Because denying the vote of one voter who voted against you indicates a selective view of voter legitimacy. Project that to some 65 million voters who voted for Clinton and you're creating a national voter dichotomy of which voter is a good and legit voter vs those voters who are against you so they cheat, the latter to be necessarily dismissed, ignored, discredited. A concocted and false dichotomy.

So given the Republican Party and its history up to the present of voter supression, this is not good in respect of upcoming elections. Especially given so many states are in fact run by Republicans. Because the key is who is accepted as a voter, which is determined by new laws enacted by Republican controlled states. Wisconsin and Michigan are Republican controlled, while Pennsylvania is split. Trump won all three, so it looks like without absolute Democratic Party control of a state, youse guyz are declaring the popular vote good when you like it and bad when youse don't like it. Worse, the voters youse don't like will be stopped.

This is bad bad bad news.

I'm agreeing with you! I highly thank the popular vote for voting in Republican governors, state houses, the US Senate, the US House, AND for Trump winning the popular vote in 30/50 states. He couldn't have won the election if he hadn't had the popular vote behind him. The popular vote has spoken! Republicans just about everywhere have been given a mandate by the popular vote. And, I'm all for Democratic states voting to grant their state's electoral votes to the candidate who wins the most popular votes nationwide. Now maybe the left will finally shut up on the issue.

 

[Moderate Right]

Youse consistently and determinedly refuse to acknowledge the Aggregate National Popular vote.

Deny one vote and you deny each voter and all votes.

The post is a deflection and avoidance of and away from the Aggregate National Popular Vote.

Recognize the Aggregate Popular Vote. Accept it. Youse however cannot so you do otherwise, which is to disparage it. This makes Donald Trump look like the voter rolls purger-in-chief to eliminate voters he does not like because we voted against him, while favoring his own fanboyz voters.

But it was you guys who wanted electors in Republican states to vote against the popular votes of their own states, thereby denying the voters of their choice. You guys are the ultimate deniers.

 

[Fiddytree]

The sheer amount of landmass is one thing. But one of the many fascinating angles here is that Trump truly won the least economically productive areas of the country. Whereas Clinton won roughly 2/3's the U.S.' GDP output, Trump carried slightly more than only 1/3 of it.