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Latest CNN polls (1) have Clinton at 42%, Trump at 38%, Johnson at 9% (a noticeable decrease from 12%) and Stein at 7%
https://amthirdpartyreport.com/2016/06/22/stein-added-to-national-polls-johnson-slips/
Third party's polling at this level ever much less this early is prerty astounding.
Considering who's at the top of the 2 major party tickets, I think it's not only astounding, it actually gives me hope. Maybe this election is the last straw or the evidence we need to shake things up a bit.
Latest CNN polls (1) have Clinton at 42%, Trump at 38%, Johnson at 9% (a noticeable decrease from 12%) and Stein at 7%
https://amthirdpartyreport.com/2016/06/22/stein-added-to-national-polls-johnson-slips/
Third party's polling at this level ever much less this early is prerty astounding.
Latest CNN polls (1) have Clinton at 42%, Trump at 38%, Johnson at 9% (a noticeable decrease from 12%) and Stein at 7%
https://amthirdpartyreport.com/2016/06/22/stein-added-to-national-polls-johnson-slips/
Third party's polling at this level ever much less this early is prerty astounding.
Latest CNN polls (1) have Clinton at 42%, Trump at 38%, Johnson at 9% (a noticeable decrease from 12%) and Stein at 7%
https://amthirdpartyreport.com/2016/06/22/stein-added-to-national-polls-johnson-slips/
Third party's polling at this level ever much less this early is prerty astounding.
Are Stein and Johnson incompatible? Could they end up on the same ticket or backing the same 3rd party candidate? If they could, and Bernie hopped aboard, topped the ticket even, they could win.
I hope this election gives a boost to the movement of moving beyond the two party system.
Latest CNN polls (1) have Clinton at 42%, Trump at 38%, Johnson at 9% (a noticeable decrease from 12%) and Stein at 7%
https://amthirdpartyreport.com/2016/06/22/stein-added-to-national-polls-johnson-slips/
Third party's polling at this level ever much less this early is prerty astounding.
Third parties can not become successful unless they have a strong presence on the state and national level.
Third parties can not become successful unless they have a strong presence on the state and national level.
Latest CNN polls (1) have Clinton at 42%, Trump at 38%, Johnson at 9% (a noticeable decrease from 12%) and Stein at 7%
https://amthirdpartyreport.com/2016/06/22/stein-added-to-national-polls-johnson-slips/
Third party's polling at this level ever much less this early is prerty astounding.
Are Stein and Johnson incompatible? Could they end up on the same ticket or backing the same 3rd party candidate? If they could, and Bernie hopped aboard, topped the ticket even, they could win.
I hope this election gives a boost to the movement of moving beyond the two party system.
No ****.
becuase no one really wants Hillary or Trump. Regardless, they won't be allowed to participate in debates and such.
We will see. Right now Johnson is at 9% and Stein is at 7%. This is without campaigning. All they need is to reach 15% which is the debate threshold.
We will see. Right now Johnson is at 9% and Stein is at 7%. This is without campaigning. All they need is to reach 15% which is the debate threshold.
It's not going to. The structure is significantly stacked against political competition. The Republocrats have seen to that.
And that's really hard to do without exposure. But you can't really get the exposure necessary unless you're allowed to participate in things such as the debates.
It's all very Catch-22.
The two party system has seen to that, like you already said third party candidates would not even be allowed to participate in debates and such.
I remember when Ron Paul was running the news would announce who won second and third and not even mention Paul got first.
Being on CNN last night should jump Johnson all the way up to 9.1%.
It is but CNN just held a Libertarian town hall last night. So as of now, they are starting to get exposure.
Libertarian town hall: 5 takeaways - CNNPolitics.com
Exactly, and that's where the problem lies. The seemingly complete control the Republocrat Party has on the entire system. That 15% rule was added after Perot threw a wrench into the Presidential election, specifically set at such a level as to bar third party participation.
This is what single party rule looks like.
Yeah, that was nice. Typically you have to do C-SPAN, which no one watches.
Regardless, I fear that without proper political competition in the system, we're going to stagnate.
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