There is no reason for life

[Apocalypse]

Life is there simply because there is no alternative.
Stop searching for reasons as it's all just meaningless.

 

[scourge99]

Life is there simply because there is no alternative.
Stop searching for reasons as it's all just meaningless.

Then why did you bother posting this?

Does that imply that there is some meaning to life for you?

 

[Apocalypse]

Then why did you bother posting this?

Does that imply that there is some meaning to life for you?

If life being meaningless is a meaning for its own then yeah, sure.

 

[B L Zeebub]

Life is there simply because there is no alternative.
Stop searching for reasons as it's all just meaningless.

wow I wish I had though of that

 

[B L Zeebub]

Then why did you bother posting this?

Does that imply that there is some meaning to life for you?

maybe he is just seeking help finding it?

 

[B L Zeebub]

If life being meaningless is a meaning for its own then yeah, sure.

awwwwww you found it

 

[JW Frogen]

Life is there simply because there is no alternative.
Stop searching for reasons as it's all just meaningless.

I think you have hit on the essential question, was there no alternative?

Why not nothingness rather than being?

As for the searching for meaning, you won't stop that, God or no God.

You are doing it in your post. And so you should.

 

[Real Korimyr #9]

Life is there simply because there is no alternative.
Stop searching for reasons as it's all just meaningless.

Life just is, and we have to accept it. (Or not.) But meaning is ours to impose upon the meaningless-- just as we can create order from chaos. You will never find meaning by searching for it, only by imposing it.

 

[Goshin]

Life is like an onion. If you don't do anything with it, it rots...maybe obviously, like the bad spot on the outside of the onion...maybe secretly, like an onion that looks good on the outside but is rotten in the core.

So cook something already. :mrgreen:

 

[Apocalypse]

Life just is, and we have to accept it. (Or not.) But meaning is ours to impose upon the meaningless-- just as we can create order from chaos. You will never find meaning by searching for it, only by imposing it.

That was exactly my thought, Korimyr.
One cannot find a meaning, because life offers no meanings.
Mankind imposes and defines those 'meanings', just like it defines what's good and what's bad, what's just and what's evil, what is order and what is chaos.
We should all just stop searching for a meaning that we cannot define, such as Life, because if we can't define it, it doesn't exist.
It's just meaningless.

 

[Apocalypse]

Life is like an onion. If you don't do anything with it, it rots...maybe obviously, like the bad spot on the outside of the onion...maybe secretly, like an onion that looks good on the outside but is rotten in the core.

So cook something already. :mrgreen:

I'm not speaking about an individual's life, I'm speaking about life as a whole, the biggest picture of all, that nothing exists outside of.

 

[Apocalypse]

I think you have hit on the essential question, was there no alternative?

Why not nothingness rather than being?

As for the searching for meaning, you won't stop that, God or no God.

You are doing it in your post. And so you should.

I've been searching for a meaning for quite a lot of time.
I have finally arrived at the conclusion that mankind needs not continue to search for a meaning, because as Einstein said, everything is relative, and you cannot define something that has no alternative.

Nothingness is not an alternative because there's no such a thing.

 

[B L Zeebub]

Life is like an onion. If you don't do anything with it, it rots...maybe obviously, like the bad spot on the outside of the onion...maybe secretly, like an onion that looks good on the outside but is rotten in the core.

So cook something already. :mrgreen:

Gosh darn it Goshin, how profound, life is like an onion, both make my cry

 

[Dav]

Life is there simply because there is no alternative.
Stop searching for reasons as it's all just meaningless.

Um, how do you know? Who told you?

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Life is there simply because there is no alternative.
Stop searching for reasons as it's all just meaningless.

There sure is no reason when you are *not* the Greatness that is the Good Reverend.


Sucks for you! :thumbs:

 

[OxymoronP]

Life is there simply because there is no alternative.
Stop searching for reasons as it's all just meaningless.

Life is simply because that is the only thing, meaning comes from living.

 

[youknowwho]

life is simple and complicated at the same time. does it make a difference if the reason for life is undiscoverable or non-existent? why is it so hard to know oneself, truly and deeply? why do I exist?

 

[windovervocalcords]

There is meaning in life, but you have to look for it to find it:2wave:.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

I feel sorry for you if your life lacks meaning.

Why does life have to have some external meaning imposed upon it? Life is an end in itself, we decide what our lives mean, and what our species will do.

It is only to the living that meaning is possible.

 

[scourge99]

Re: I feel sorry for you if your life lacks meaning.

Why does life have to have some external meaning imposed upon it? Life is an end in itself, we decide what our lives mean, and what our species will do.

It is only to the living that meaning is possible.

I think some people recognize that but it doesn't help in motivating them when they feel its all for nothing. Kind of like building a sand castle when the tides coming in. Such people need help understanding why to bother when they already know the inevitable conclusion.

 

[Lightdemon]

(turn down speakers if you're at work)

The Emo Song

 

[Catz Part Deux]

Life is there simply because there is no alternative.
Stop searching for reasons as it's all just meaningless.

Does this hurt your heart? Then let me reframe it for you. Life only has the meaning that you choose to give it.

Does that help? It can be utterly meaningless, if you want it to be. Or, it can be about filling it with as much love, sex, liquor, fun, companionship, good-doing, helping others, and cream puffs as you want.

 

[Mach]

Life just is, and we have to accept it. (Or not.) But meaning is ours to impose upon the meaningless-- just as we can create order from chaos. You will never find meaning by searching for it, only by imposing it.

That appears to be the factual conclusion, the only one supported by reason/science.

Meaning is relative to the subject who experiences or imposes the meaning (or any similar mind). As such, attempting to show meaning doesn't exist apart from those who impose or experience it, is fallacy.

The quote: "We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams", and then bolstered by Willy Wonka quoting it, does a good job of declaring the same sentiment.

Although in a more universal context, it does seem trivial, short, and depressing, no doubt.

That got me thinking (uh oh, edit button ready), assume you have a line that we number, that extends in both directions infinitely. Let's pick a point at say 1.0. We're definitely at 1.0...it's certainly a position on the line, it has meaning..but over infinity it paradoxically seems relevant at that point, but over the entire line, irrelevant. Is that a mathematical analog showing why in a sense, both views are so common, and maybe both in different ways, have some truth?

-Mach

 

[Real Korimyr #9]

That was exactly my thought, Korimyr.
One cannot find a meaning, because life offers no meanings.
Mankind imposes and defines those 'meanings', just like it defines what's good and what's bad, what's just and what's evil, what is order and what is chaos.
We should all just stop searching for a meaning that we cannot define, such as Life, because if we can't define it, it doesn't exist.
It's just meaningless.

The problem is that your words sound of despair. You say that there is no point in imposing order, in defining meaning, because life itself is meaningless. You say that we should give up, give in to meaninglessness and purposelessness and chaos because trying to find meaning is pointless.

The fact that life is meaningless is the point. The fact that there is no purpose and no meaning is what makes it so important that we create purpose and define meaning-- and more importantly, what gives us the freedom and the privilege to do so. If the world had any meaning, the world's meaning would be imposed upon us, instead of our meaning imposed upon the world.

This is not a thing to be lamented. It is something to be celebrated.

 

[Apocalypse]

The problem is that your words sound of despair. You say that there is no point in imposing order, in defining meaning, because life itself is meaningless. You say that we should give up, give in to meaninglessness and purposelessness and chaos because trying to find meaning is pointless.

The fact that life is meaningless is the point. The fact that there is no purpose and no meaning is what makes it so important that we create purpose and define meaning-- and more importantly, what gives us the freedom and the privilege to do so. If the world had any meaning, the world's meaning would be imposed upon us, instead of our meaning imposed upon the world.

This is not a thing to be lamented. It is something to be celebrated.

That was not what I've meant to.
I just think that there's no reason for humanity to be bothering itself with the questions of "what is life's meaning" and "why are we here", as there is no answer to them.
It's all just there, no one can tell you of an age or time when it wasn't there, it's just there, no alternative and nothing to compare it to.

Instead of asking those questions and wasting time, humanity should put all its got into the advancing of its species, and spread through the universe.

One could say, however, that if life was eternal, and always eternal, there would have been a living, intelligent species/creature in every tiny place in the entire universe's space.
Perhaps we are located on a specific point on this eternal time-line, and perhaps the others who've been here before have just faded away with time, and we will be joining them in the future, as well.