There is absolute proof that the DELUGE actually happened

[Daisy]

 

[Daisy]

hard to say.

he scrutinizes everything you say, creating Snide remarks; in general his stuff about you is a retread of a retread ad nauseam.

I have one word for that...insecurity...

 

[Logician Man]

where is a thread that you have developed that Shakes the Earth ?




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[Logician Man]

does it have a Bible and a Mourner's Bench ?


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Of course. Most of my visitors are fallible theists. I've even entertained JWs and ex-JWs. (they were the heaviest drinkers of alcoholic beverages)

"I aim to please - So you aim too, please."

 

[911Sparky]

It's amazing what some people will believe.

Why do you have trouble believing that a 500 year old man spent 100 years building an ark, with no previous experience? /s

 

[Logician Man]

Daisy said:

Jehovah’s Witnesses think that they have found the true religion.

 

[Revelation]

Why do you have trouble believing that a 500 year old man spent 100 years building an ark, with no previous experience? /s

i have Zero problems with that.

some of you have Zero knowledge of bible theology and can't answer the question....

let's throw this out to the atheists and see what they come up with.

Christians please be mute while the atheists stumble to answer such a simple question.

@Gordy327 or @AConcernedCitizen or @Logician Man are you game for this. and i pick on the atheist because they run from God over a simple theological problem: all. the. time.

just stop it and try to figure this one out, we christians will wait.............(and wait)



be blessed, July 9 will be here before you know it.

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[911Sparky]

i have Zero problems with that.

some of you have Zero knowledge of bible theology and can't answer the question....

let's throw this out to the atheists and see what they come up with.

Christians please be mute while the atheists stumble to answer such a simple question.

@Gordy327 or @AConcernedCitizen or @Logician Man are you game for this. and i pick on the atheist because they run from God over a simple theological problem: all. the. time.

just stop it and try to figure this one out, we christians will wait.............(and wait)



be blessed, July 9 will be here before you know it.

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I'm an atheist too, there is nothing to figure out, once you reach the obvious conclusion that God doesn't exist, but men who wanted to control
the masses made up a story to do so.

 

[Gordy327]

I'm an atheist too, there is nothing to figure out, once you reach the obvious conclusion that God doesn't exist, but men who wanted to control
the masses made up a story to do so.

Not to mention people are ignorant enough and/or easily manipulated into believing such stories.

 

[Logician Man]

Not to mention people are ignorant enough and/or easily manipulated into believing such stories.

"Manipulate" the mind of a young impressionable child with the threat of spending eternity postmortem in a fire and brimstone hellfire and/or "being destroyed at Armageddon", it certainly comes as no surprise we see the idle, unproven threats being put forth here at DP on a daily basis.

Fortunately, the number of people who reject these idle, unproven threats is on the rise like a snowball rolling down a hill gathering steam.

There is no telling how many kids are still alive today because they didn't commit fear-based suicide due to religious indoctrination before they had the opportunity to develop critical thinking skills.

 

[LittleNipper]

I'm an atheist too, there is nothing to figure out, once you reach the obvious conclusion that God doesn't exist, but men who wanted to control
the masses made up a story to do so.

So prove that biological life can be manufactured from inert substances. If that is impossible then GOD did it.

 

[Lord of Planar]

This "absolute proof" is silly. It was not global. There was likely a regional "deluge" when coming out of the ice age melted enough ice to rise the sea level and break through the Strait of Gibralter.

 

[Maccabee]

So prove that biological life can be manufactured from inert substances. If that is impossible then GOD did it.

That's literally a "God of the gaps" fallacy in the most blatant way possible. As far as I'm aware, we haven't figured out exactly how life formed on earth, but it's really only a matter of time before we do. If and when that happens, what would be your evidence of that God exists then?

 

[Gordy327]

So prove that biological life can be manufactured from inert substances. If that is impossible then GOD did it.

The perfect example of a god of the gaps fallacy. What if science does create biological life? Will you then say god didn't do it?

 

[Revelation]

The perfect example of a god of the gaps fallacy.

only God can fill the gaps millions of years ago when no Scientists and zillion dollar Laboratories were around.

What if science does create biological life?

what if Science did create biological life? well that would prove Nothing except it takes a multi million dollar Lab and very Intelligent Scientists to create life. and those scientists and Laboratories were around here millions or billions of years ago ?

really?

or you could conclude that is took One Intelligent God to expertly Create all of this down to the tiniest microbe or Largest Galaxy.

which is it Gordy?

which is more 'Logical' to you and me......


NO Contest friends. nothing creates itself on its own. so please stop the nonsense, thank you.

Will you then say god didn't do it?

no. because what you are claiming is silly and illogical.

go back to the drawing board and come up with a story we can Believe such as found in Genesis.


thank you, blessings.


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[LittleNipper]

That's literally a "God of the gaps" fallacy in the most blatant way possible. As far as I'm aware, we haven't figured out exactly how life formed on earth, but it's really only a matter of time before we do. If and when that happens, what would be your evidence of that God exists then?

The nation of Israel would be the most perplexing prophetic evidence that GOD is real and absolute. And if "we" haven't figured out how life formed on earth (as far as you are aware). Why is it so impossible for you to accept that GOD can & did do it. That's like a robot saying in some future time, "We do not know how we came to be, but in no way were we created. We are a natural product of nature."

 

[LittleNipper]

This "absolute proof" is silly. It was not global. There was likely a regional "deluge" when coming out of the ice age melted enough ice to rise the sea level and break through the Strait of Gibralter.

Likely can be so unlikely. The Ice Age was a byproduct of the FLOOD. https://www.icr.org/article/ice-age-genesis-flood/

The Genesis Flood Caused the Ice Age

The two ingredients required for an Ice Age, cool temperatures and tons of snow, were dramatically fulfilled immediately after the Genesis flood.

answersingenesis.org

 

[Gordy327]

Likely can be so unlikely. The Ice Age was a byproduct of the FLOOD. https://www.icr.org/article/ice-age-genesis-flood/

The Genesis Flood Caused the Ice Age

The two ingredients required for an Ice Age, cool temperatures and tons of snow, were dramatically fulfilled immediately after the Genesis flood.

answersingenesis.org

More demonstrably false nonsense

 

[Revelation]

The nation of Israel would be the most perplexing prophetic evidence that GOD is real and absolute. And if "we" haven't figured out how life formed on earth (as far as you are aware). Why is it so impossible for you to accept that GOD can & did do it. That's like a robot saying in the future time, "We do not know how we came to be, but in no way were we created. We are a natural product of nature."

good one.

in a sense we are dealing with Robots trained in public school and programmed with Evolutionary thinking.

my sense is that dealing with them is a bit like and Endless loop in computer programming, only God can break the loop and turn on the Lights.

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[LittleNipper]

good one.

in a sense we are dealing with Robots trained in public school and programmed with Evolutionary thinking.

my sense is that dealing with them is a bit like and Endless loop in computer programming, only God can break the loop and turn on the Lights.

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We seem to exist in a hopeless, thankless, selfish world. Yes, only GOD can awaken one's spirit. All the fake supposed "scientific" education of the world (regarding creation) is totally unfulfilling and oh so empty. And oddly, the Bible is one of the few things that provokes enough motivation to cause secular scientist to want to seek out a past that excludes the SUPERnatural.

 

[roguenuke]

You may (or not) do your own investigation. However there are indications that there was a worldwide FLOOD. There is an areas in the UK. There is that area of India. There is a significant canyon in France. You likely know about the finds around the Black Sea, and the Jishi Gorge research. I see theses as one and the same FLOOD or related to the FLOOD. An example being the Ice Age afterwards. You are told that these represent different floods. I get it. But I don't think you do. And you are just seeking way to disregard GOD.







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No. There is no evidence of a world wide flood at all while humans walked on this planet. In fact, there is a lot of evidence to contradict any such flood completely, that such a flood would not have been feasible to have happened.

People have to have water to survive, so when we settle down to build communities, towns, cities, those tend to be built near water. Well water sources also tend to flood. Sometimes small floods, sometimes big ones, sometimes massive floods, none cover the entire earth. But along with that, people also exaggerate stories told, passed down from generation to generation. And on top of that, we are egocentric and have issues recognizing the bigger world, the actual size of it. This would be far, far more true in the past, during the time these stories were started, first written down because they wouldn't know about over 70% of the planet.

This is what is logical, that there was a relatively large, but still not even covering 25% of the world flood that caused a lot of destruction and led to stories that were based around ignorance and full of the normal terrible details and exaggeration that happens. When I broke my nose on the ship, not only were there rumors started about what happened that weren't even close to the truth, but also just the initial report got details wrong, claiming I'd been "sucked into a seawater valve". That tells me that humans are terrible with relaying details to others.

 

[roguenuke]

Noah was spoke of by JESUS the CHRIST----- not Gilgamesh. However, I do feel that the Gilgamesh "Epic" is a pagan twist to what really happened that was written from oral traditions. So the TRUTH came first.

Which just tells me that the story of Jesus was also exaggerated and if he did exist, then he was just as ignorant as everyone else.

 

[Maccabee]

The nation of Israel would be the most perplexing prophetic evidence that GOD is real and absolute

In what way?

. And if "we" haven't figured out how life formed on earth (as far as you are aware). Why is it so impossible for you to accept that GOD can & did do it.

Because everything else in science and history either doesn't confirm a deity of any kind, let alone the God of the Bible interpreted by modern Christianity, or often points AGAINST the idea altogether. If a god created everything, he's either uninvolved with our daily lives or he exists and every religion, including Christianity, are wildly off the mark as to who he is and what his character is.

That's like a robot saying in some future time, "We do not know how we came to be, but in no way were we created. We are a natural product of nature."

The thing is, the robot would basically trip over MOUNTAINS of evidence of our existence. We have videos, texts, buildings, etc pointing to our existence.

 

[Maccabee]

good one.

in a sense we are dealing with Robots trained in public school and programmed with Evolutionary thinking.

my sense is that dealing with them is a bit like and Endless loop in computer programming, only God can break the loop and turn on the Lights.

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As explained, the robot would and could easily find evidence for our existence. What evidence do you have for a creator, let alone the God of the Bible, let alone your interpretation of Christianity?

 

[Revelation]

As explained, the robot would and could easily find evidence for our existence.

What evidence do you have for a creator, let alone the God of the Bible, let alone your interpretation of Christianity?

this has been fully explained.

ask yourself if scientists could create life with all their Intelligence and expensive Laboratory gear, don't you think they would?

if this is possible, where did the Intelligence and power come from to do this millions of years ago? it makes sense that the Superior intelligence is God.

no amount of lucky accidents could create life, with no engineering and fore thought.

so basically get a Logical Argument with your self: what makes more Logical sense to you? was everything logically and Intelligently created, or was it a big happy accident.


that is where Genesis starts.

and yes i studied biology in high school and college, but i also look at things with my Reasoning still intact.


blessings.


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