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There are 132k CoA flags in Fulton County alone... Just under 10k confirmed dead returned absentee ballots in Michigan.

Do you want illegal votes to count?

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What illegal votes? Even though that even the Republicans supporting Trump has asked him to show some kind of indication on that his claims are valid, he hasn't. Instead he is out golfing every day.
 
How many were alive when they cast their vote for those "confirmed dead"? We have a pandemic going on that actually has cost people their lives, including voters.



I would also like to see an official source that confirm that count.
To your point, I find it telling that the people who insisted we implement mail in voting on a scale larger that anyone ever envisioned in the name of public health concerns are the same people who had no compunction about participating in mass gatherings to celebrate the results of that election.
It begs the question that if it wasn't about safety, what was the purpose of the mail in balloting?
 
Kamala Harris: "The can can heal America."
This "healer" himself not a step without diapers. "Our dear Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev" american style.
The only way he will unite americans when they gather at his funeral...
 
flubdub doesn't become true just because you say it many times.
 
To your point, I find it telling that the people who insisted we implement mail in voting on a scale larger that anyone ever envisioned in the name of public health concerns are the same people who had no compunction about participating in mass gatherings to celebrate the results of that election.
It begs the question that if it wasn't about safety, what was the purpose of the mail in balloting?
It was about safety and actually being able to vote. For one thing, none of the people who voted by mail knew if they would be healthy enough on election day to vote, or even prior to it. Contracting Covid can put you in the hospital for weeks, months, even if you survive. Why not take precautions to ensure you are able to vote? You certainly can't vote from a hospital bed unless it is by mail.

I not only did not go out in any sort of crowds to celebrate, I also voted in person early. So maybe you should stop trying to group people together into your own personal blame groups, whether you meant to include me in that or not. You cannot know who voted in person in those groups or who voted by mail, for whatever reasons.
 
You consider any vote against your guy invalid. If there was no mail in ballots and it was all excused absentee and in person and Biden still won, you'd be talking about some other fraud or nonsense why the votes aren't valid.

Trump still disputes 2016 when there was not a lot of mail in voting....
 
It was about safety and actually being able to vote. For one thing, none of the people who voted by mail knew if they would be healthy enough on election day to vote, or even prior to it. Contracting Covid can put you in the hospital for weeks, months, even if you survive. Why not take precautions to ensure you are able to vote? You certainly can't vote from a hospital bed unless it is by mail.

I not only did not go out in any sort of crowds to celebrate, I also voted in person early. So maybe you should stop trying to group people together into your own personal blame groups, whether you meant to include me in that or not. You cannot know who voted in person in those groups or who voted by mail, for whatever reasons.
My point still remains that if its too dangerous to cast a vote in person it is also too dangerous to gather in masses to celebrate its results.
 
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My point still remains that if its too dangerous to cast a vote in person it is also too dangerous to gather in masses to celebrate its results.
Depends on how they are done. I don't agree with those mass gatherings, but that is a separate argument from the rest. The arguments matter, as well as who is making them. Again, you cannot point out if any or most of those celebrating were the same ones claiming that it was too dangerous to vote in person. You also don't know how far apart all of them were (not just some) or what precautions they all took. A

But more than any of those above, being hypocritical doesn't nullify anyone's vote, even if you could point out exactly which ones were hypocritical.

It is however highly hypocritical to make this claim and not speak out against Trump and his rallies.
 
My point still remains that if its too dangerous to cast a vote in person it is also too dangerous to gather in masses to celebrate its results.

It's really none of your business how someone votes as long as they are using a legal method of submitting their ballot.
 
What illegal votes? Even though that even the Republicans supporting Trump has asked him to show some kind of indication on that his claims are valid, he hasn't. Instead he is out golfing every day.

If it's discovered that there were illegal votes cast in last weeks election, should they count or not?
 
illegal
il·le·gal | \ (ˌ)i(l)-ˈlē-gəl \
1. not according to or authorized by law : UNLAWFUL, ILLICIT
2. not sanctioned by official rules (as of a game)

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Then in that case, illegal votes cast in last weeks election should not count.

Just wanted to make sure you were not one of those people claiming all 63 million mail in votes were illegal.
 
About those 10,000 plus dead people in Michigan....

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You had me convinced until the last sentence.

I wasn't attempting to convince you and I'm deeply saddened that your irrationality here extends to an adoration of a family of privileged, entitled criminals.

I'm a 62 year old adult male, been around, seen a lot and I know a scumbag when I see one, the stuff you tried to peddle earlier about "statistics" is ridiculous, the desperation being exhibited by Trump is ridiculous.

Only a privileged, entitled, "me me me" snowflake would act the way he's acting, you can believe whatever drivel conspiracies you like but if you peddle it on this forum and I stumble upon it, I'll challenge you.

Open minded visitors to this site need to see this conspiratorial fantasy disproven, and this is not hard to do with a bit of honest research but sadly far too many Trumpites are neither honest enough or intelligent enough to see what he's up to.
 
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VERIFY EVERY VOTE.


Have you checked to make sure that they aren't mistakenly "confirming" dead people voting by finding that a person named John Brown voted in Detroit when there's a different person named John Brown that died years ago? Have you confirmed that these supposed 10 thousand votes weren't all for Trump? A quick google search shows I'm onto something with the first one. I would check Snopes, looks like they're overloaded disproving all of these false claims.

But you raise a serious question - we don't know that there wasn't massive fraud for Trump. 10 thousand more votes all for Trump? For all we know....
 
Depends on how they are done. I don't agree with those mass gatherings, but that is a separate argument from the rest. The arguments matter, as well as who is making them. Again, you cannot point out if any or most of those celebrating were the same ones claiming that it was too dangerous to vote in person. You also don't know how far apart all of them were (not just some) or what precautions they all took. A

But more than any of those above, being hypocritical doesn't nullify anyone's vote, even if you could point out exactly which ones were hypocritical.

It is however highly hypocritical to make this claim and not speak out against Trump and his rallies.
I'm not the hypocrite here but nice try at flipping this around on me. Im not the one who claimed large crowds were superspreader events. Nor did I support changing our election laws last minute to allow mail in voting.

On one hand you say you dont approve of the large crowds which is consistent with the position held by the majority of the left but then you try you rationalize them by saying that I don't know if they took appropriate precautions. Its a big cop out frankly and it puts you right there with the media hypocrites who cover crowds differently dependant upon the political persuasion of the crowd.
Apparently going to church and voting in person are lethal activities worth pointing out in the news and something democrat gov and mayors feel so strongly about that they use the police to prevent people from doing, but rioting and celebrating democrat victories is just fine.
This type of stuff is why progressives have lost all credibility with people.
 
I'm not the hypocrite here but nice try at flipping this around on me. Im not the one who claimed large crowds were superspreader events. Nor did I support changing our election laws last minute to allow mail in voting.

On one hand you say you dont approve of the large crowds which is consistent with the position held by the majority of the left but then you try you rationalize them by saying that I don't know if they took appropriate precautions. Its a big cop out frankly and it puts you right there with the media hypocrites who cover crowds differently dependant upon the political persuasion of the crowd.
Apparently going to church and voting in person are lethal activities worth pointing out in the news and something democrat gov and mayors feel so strongly about that they use the police to prevent people from doing, but rioting and celebrating democrat victories is just fine.
This type of stuff is why progressives have lost all credibility with people.
You are trying to run strawman arguments.

I do not approve of big crowds. That being said, there is a difference between big crowds inside somewhere and big crowds outside. There is also a difference between big crowds taking precautions and those refusing to do so. This isn't an all or nothing thing.

Please show where police were used to prevent people from voting in person. Cite those examples of churches. Were they planned or spontaneous gatherings?

You are claiming some hyperbole here, that certain things were the same, exactly the same were treated differently. This is not true.
 
If it's discovered that there were illegal votes cast in last weeks election, should they count or not?
Off course not, but that has already been checked twice: When casting the vote, if in person or early voting, when receiving the postal vote when the citizen has voted by post and then they all have been checked a second time before opening the votes and counting them.
 
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Off course not, but that has already been checked twice: When casting the vote, if in person or early voting, when receiving the postal vote when the citizen has voted by post and then they all have been checked a second time before opening the votes and counting them.
Not according to the whistleblowers. If it's all legal than the DOJ will find nothing and the votes can be ratified.
 
If it's all legal than the DOJ will find nothing and the votes can be ratified.
You are absolutly right.
Not according to the whistleblowers.

What whisleblowers? Just people on the internet claiming to be just that? We both know that could be anyone, you, me or more likely, just Trump supporters trolling the internet.
 
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