Ther American Age is Done

[Hamish Howl]

Post #174


How do you know "the fanatic civilian population was just as committed to fight and die [as the Japanese military]"? I'm curious re your confidence about this point.

Corroborate your claim; Copy and paste excerpts from credible sources to which you provide the links.

What mattered was what the allied commanders believed they would do, based on intel.

 

[RetiredAtLast]

Is he not introducing the possibility of injecting a disinfectant he claims "knocks it [COVID 19} out in a minute"?

He's making an inquiry of his medical experts based on what he has heard, Your efforts to distort it, in spite of your acknowledgment that he didn't suggest injecting it, is among the causes for the survival of the lie.

It wasn't a lie

It was and is a lie that Trump said that disinfectants should be injected into people.

 

[Pyrite]

What mattered was what the allied commanders believed they would do, based on intel.

No doubt. Given the Japanese military's fanaticism in defending islands closer and closer to Japan itself, the US military's estimates casualties for that invasion ballooned from 250,000 to 500,000 - and, in some quarters, to a million.

 

[ElChupacabra]

He's making an inquiry of his medical experts based on what he has heard, Your efforts to distort it, in spite of your acknowledgment that he didn't suggest injecting it, is among the causes for the survival of the lie.

I'm not distorting it, which is precisely why I quoted it and all you do is continue to avoid what's obvious in his comment, which is the injection of disinfectant as something the medical community working on the vaccine/treatments should look into. Why would he say this if he has no idea what he's talking about?

It was and is a lie that Trump said that disinfectants should be injected into people.

Then why would he ask the medical community to look into that very manner of introducing disinfectants?

 

[SMTA]

U.K.: Brexit

U.S.: Hold my beer …

Very nicely played, my friend.

 

[Pyrite]

He's making an inquiry of his medical experts based on what he has heard, Your efforts to distort it, in spite of your acknowledgment that he didn't suggest injecting it, is among the causes for the survival of the lie.

It was and is a lie that Trump said that disinfectants should be injected into people.

Quote what trump said and show that he didn't bring up disinfectants, didn't muse about somehow using them inside human bodies....

 

[Pyrite]

No doubt. Given the Japanese military's fanaticism in defending islands closer and closer to Japan itself, the US military's estimates casualties for that invasion ballooned from 250,000 to 500,000 - and, in some quarters, to a million.

Over the years, I've gone back and forth re our use of not one but two nukes on Japan. After studying the battles in the Pacific, I decided - long ago - that our use of the bombs was horrific but also justified (as much as something like that can be).

My question re would we have nuclear-bombed Germany is, of course, speculative only (apparently @RetiredAtLast is unfamiliar with my posts and doesn't realize I usually know at least the basics of topics), given the date Germany surrendered and the date of the successful test at Los Alamos.

 

[SMTA]

Quote what trump said and show that he didn't bring up disinfectants, didn't muse about somehow using them inside human bodies....

I saw that the bleach press conference.
Trump was a clueless moron during the entire time
He was embarrassingly stupid, and obviously has no idea what was being discussed
Then came his brilliant bleach injection comment

 

[RetiredAtLast]

Corroborate your claim; Copy and paste excerpts from credible sources to which you provide the links.

Sure, since you apparently never learned any history of World War II and, obviously, didn't live through it as some of us did.

"The Japanese armed forces burgeoned in 1945 under urgent mobilization from about 4.5 million men under arms to over 6 million by August. But in March, Japan mustered a vast additional body of combatants: every single male age 15 to 60 and every single female age 17 to 40. This inducted about a quarter or more of Japan’s total population, about 18 to 20 million people. Japan lacked uniforms or any other visible marker to distinguish this new sea of combatants from the remaining civilian population. Multiple millions of these nearly mobilized former male and female civilians now combatants, would be in the Kyushu invasion area."

"This brings us to what prompted the assessment that there were “no civilians in Japan.” It represented a reaction to the Japanese government’s measure to obliterate any practical means for US servicemen to distinguish combatants from noncombatants in Japan. The dire implication of this was no surprise to Americans. From 1942 Americans learned that Japanese servicemen regarded surrender as unthinkable. Virtually every Japanese unit fought near to annihilation—a record unparalleled in modern history. Voluntary surrenders were rare. More often, prisoners were only those Japanese left by wounds or debilitation too helpless to take their own life."
"Thus, the statement that there were “no civilians in Japan” projected that an invasion of Japan would be a hellscape of a vast “civilian” population indistinguishable from combatants and that both would fight and choose death over surrender. And this is exactly the intimidating prospect Japan’s rulers sought to project."

There Are No Civilians in Japan | The National WWII Museum | New Orleans

Allied military planners faced a bitter truth as they planned for a possible invasion of Japan: there were no distinctions between soldiers and civilians.

www.nationalww2museum.org

 

[Pyrite]

I saw that the bleach press conference.
Trump was a clueless moron during the entire time
He was embarrassingly stupid, and obviously has no idea what was being discussed
Then came his brilliant bleach comment

He was mindlessly musing out loud. He might not even have been aware he was talking out loud, in public, about using disinfectant inside the human body. Still, it highlighted his idiocy....

 

[RetiredAtLast]

Then came his brilliant bleach injection comment

Please quote him as saying that people should be injected with disinfectants.

 

[Pyrite]

Sure, since you apparently never learned any history of World War II and, obviously, didn't live through it as some of us did.

"The Japanese armed forces burgeoned in 1945 under urgent mobilization from about 4.5 million men under arms to over 6 million by August. But in March, Japan mustered a vast additional body of combatants: every single male age 15 to 60 and every single female age 17 to 40. This inducted about a quarter or more of Japan’s total population, about 18 to 20 million people. Japan lacked uniforms or any other visible marker to distinguish this new sea of combatants from the remaining civilian population. Multiple millions of these nearly mobilized former male and female civilians now combatants, would be in the Kyushu invasion area."

"This brings us to what prompted the assessment that there were “no civilians in Japan.” It represented a reaction to the Japanese government’s measure to obliterate any practical means for US servicemen to distinguish combatants from noncombatants in Japan. The dire implication of this was no surprise to Americans. From 1942 Americans learned that Japanese servicemen regarded surrender as unthinkable. Virtually every Japanese unit fought near to annihilation—a record unparalleled in modern history. Voluntary surrenders were rare. More often, prisoners were only those Japanese left by wounds or debilitation too helpless to take their own life."
"Thus, the statement that there were “no civilians in Japan” projected that an invasion of Japan would be a hellscape of a vast “civilian” population indistinguishable from combatants and that both would fight and choose death over surrender. And this is exactly the intimidating prospect Japan’s rulers sought to project."

There Are No Civilians in Japan | The National WWII Museum | New Orleans

Allied military planners faced a bitter truth as they planned for a possible invasion of Japan: there were no distinctions between soldiers and civilians.

www.nationalww2museum.org

"MOBILIZATION" is the key word. Also, the phrase, "the Japanese government's measure to obliterate...."

These undercuts your assumption civilians were as "fanatic" as the military/military government to defend the home islands.

And, there you go again, needlessly denigrating the poster you're addressing. It speaks not to what you assume about me but more to your need to insult those with whom you are discussing an issue or topic. It reflects a lack of confidence.

And it sure doesn't exhibit good faith.

 

[SMTA]

He was mindlessly musing out loud. He might not even have been aware he was talking out loud, in public, about using disinfectant inside the human body. Still, it highlighted his idiocy....

Everything Trump does is mindless
Everything.

 

[Pyrite]

I saw that the bleach press conference.
Trump was a clueless moron during the entire time
He was embarrassingly stupid, and obviously has no idea what was being discussed
Then came his brilliant bleach injection comment

Please quote him as saying that people should be injected with disinfectants.

Post #186


Look up. @SMTA doesn't claim trump "said that people should be injected with disinfectants".

 

[SMTA]

Post #186


Look up. @SMTA doesn't claim trump "said that people should be injected with disinfectants".

Thank you for reading written English correctly

 

[RetiredAtLast]

Then why would he ask the medical community to look into that very manner of introducing disinfectants?

As a matter of curiosity.

 

[SMTA]

As a matter of curiosity.

Trump was not curious, just ****ing stupid

 

[RetiredAtLast]

Look up. @SMTA doesn't claim trump "said that people should be injected with disinfectants".

I didn't ask @SMTA. I asked you to quote Trump, if you can, or to acknowledge that he didn't say it. (FYI, I'm just interested in dispelling the lie that Dems keep promoting.)

 

[RetiredAtLast]

Trump was not curious, just ****ing stupid

It's ****ing stupid to lie about something that can be seen to be, in fact, a lie.

 

[SMTA]

I didn't ask @SMTA. I asked you to quote Trump, if you can, or to acknowledge that he didn't say it. (FYI, I'm just interested in dispelling the lie that Dems keep promoting.)

That’s a lie - yes you did.

 

[SMTA]

Post #186


Look up. @SMTA doesn't claim trump "said that people should be injected with disinfectants".

I wouldn’t waste any more time on this Trump ass kisser
He is unable to read and comprehends English

 

[Pyrite]

I didn't ask @SMTA. I asked you to quote Trump, if you can, or to acknowledge that he didn't say it. (FYI, I'm just interested in dispelling the lie that Dems keep promoting.)

Post #193

Oh, dear, you're not paying attention to the progression of this thread:

Then came his brilliant bleach injection comment

Please quote him as saying that people should be injected with disinfectants.

Post #186

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Yes, @RetiredAtLast, in your Post #186, you most certainly did ask @SMTA to quote trump.....

Look up and see how the thread has gone.

 

[Pyrite]

I wouldn’t waste any more time on this Trump ass kisser
He is unable to read and comprehends English

Heck, @RetiredAtLast doesn't seem to be able to follow a thread....or see that in Post #186, he did indeed ask you (not me) to provide the relevant quote from trump.

 

[RetiredAtLast]

These undercuts your assumption civilians were as "fanatic" as the military/military government to defend the home islands.

Not in the least.

And, there you go again, needlessly denigrating the poster you're addressing. It speaks not to what you assume about me but more to your need to insult those with whom you are discussing an issue or topic. It reflects a lack of confidence.

No, it recognizes a complete lack of knowledge in an adult American about one of the major events of perhaps the most destructive war in history and a weariness of being met with demands to educate people who can't be bothered to learn about it in school or, failing that, with a modicum of reading on one's own.

 

[Pyrite]

Not in the least.

No, it recognizes a complete lack of knowledge in an adult American about one of the major events of perhaps the most destructive war in history and a weariness of being met with demands to educate people who can't be bothered to learn about it in school or, failing that, with a modicum of reading on one's own.

Post #199


Now I know you're desperate: you're continuing to make this about me (and your assumption of my ignorance) instead of trying to refute the fact your own quote doesn't support your claim Japanese civilians were as fanatical in defending the home islands as were the military and the military government.

We all have a pretty good picture of the kind of poster and person you are, @RetiredAtLast.