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The weekly 10th amendment violation

BlueTex said:
She has no RIGHT to be there.. She is an invited guest until she is uninvited.. good lord.. You have NO right to be on private property. None, nada, zip
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If she had an account with BOA, she had every right to be there. BOA entered into a contract with her when they opened up her account. They cannot refuse her access.
 
Blue Donkey said:
You started this thread to criticize certain people for Tenth Amendment violations. Show me how the mandate to wear a mask on public transportation is a direct violation of the Tenth Amendment, based only on the literal 10A text.

Then years from now the vast majority of Americans will be vaccinated and research on younger teenagers will have been completed. When most Americans are fully vaccinated, President Biden has accomplished his rescue plan.
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It is not a Tenth Amendment violation. The government imposed mask and social distancing mandates are a violation of the First, Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.
  • Government cannot tell anyone with whom they may or may not associate, or determine the number of people with whom they may associate, or the distance anyone is allowed to associate.
  • Government cannot restrict or limit anyone's right to practice their religious beliefs.
  • Government cannot deprive anyone of their life, liberty, or property without due process of law.
Everything I mentioned above makes any government imposed mask or social distancing mandate, at any level of government, unconstitutional and therefore illegal.
 
Glitch said:
If she had an account with BOA, she had every right to be there. BOA entered into a contract with her when they opened up her account. They cannot refuse her access.
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Bullshit.... They can refuse her access all day long... Having an account doesn't entitle a customer to access on their terms. Does this kind of idiocy work in Alaska?

Ironically, a bank could have you arrested for trespassing and refusing to leave for WEARING a mask inside a bank prior to COVID...
 
Glitch said:
No, she isn't. Government cannot deprive anyone of their life, liberty, or property without first providing due process under the law. Which makes all mask and social distancing mandates illegal.

If government wants to mandate that an individual must wear a mask or social distance government must present evidence before a court of law that proves beyond a reasonable doubt the individual is infected, contagious, and a threat to the public. If they do not do this for each and every individual, then they are violating the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the US Constitution.

This is not my opinion, that is the opinion of the Supreme Court in Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905):


Declaring an emergency does not give them the authority to violate the US Constitution whenever they feel like it.
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Businesses can say “no shoes, no shirt, no service”. They can add “mask” to that.
 
BlueTex said:
Bullshit.... They can refuse her access all day long... Having an account doesn't entitle a customer to access on their terms. Does this kind of idiocy work in Alaska?

Ironically, a bank could have you arrested for trespassing and refusing to leave for WEARING a mask inside a bank prior to COVID...
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Having an account entitles a customer to access when the business is open and doing business with the public. Refusing her access during normal business hours is a breach of BOA's contract with its customer.
 
Glitch said:
Having an account entitles a customer to access when the business is open and doing business with the public. Refusing her access during normal business hours is a breach of BOA's contract with its customer.
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LMAO... Do you really think BOA is STUPID enough to write in their terms that a customer has unrestricted access to their branches? Can I open carry and a wear mask in a bank if I am customer? I'm really starting to think there is a side effect of COVID is mass stupidity among the right...

Here she is a few days later at an Office Depot exercising her "rights"... Do you see how this is handled in Texas?

 
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BlueTex said:
Can I open carry and a wear mask in a bank if I am customer?
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Every bank that I'm aware does not allow firearms on their premises, other than their own security. Are you aware of any banks with a different firearm policy?

There was once a time when just wearing a mask into a business, armed or not, was cause for concern.
 
Glitch said:
Every bank that I'm aware does not allow firearms on their premises, other than their own security. Are you aware of any banks with a different firearm policy?

There was once a time when just wearing a mask into a business, armed or not, was cause for concern.
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Hugh.... So banks CAN set their own policy.... Like wearing a FREAKING mask.... You mean a customer isn't entitled access with a firearm just because they are a customer? As this woman has now learned twice, amateur lawyering rarely turns out well for the practitioner....
 
BlueTex said:
Hugh.... So banks CAN set their own policy.... Like wearing a FREAKING mask.... You mean a customer isn't entitled access with a firearm just because they are a customer? As this woman has now learned twice, amateur lawyering rarely turns out well for the practitioner....
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The bank is not requiring anything from me, they are in fact prohibiting something I'm carrying from being carried on to their property. There is a difference. The bank is also not refusing me access when I am unarmed.

Personally, I think the woman is an idiot for even having an account with BOA. They are one of the most unethical businesses in the nation.
 
Glitch said:
The bank is not requiring anything from me, they are in fact prohibiting something I'm carrying from being carried on to their property. There is a difference. The bank is also not refusing me access when I am unarmed.
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LMAO... Good luck with that bullshit in court... especially a Texas court...
 
Glitch said:
It is not a Tenth Amendment violation. The government imposed mask and social distancing mandates are a violation of the First, Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.
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I am waiting for Seattle to say why it is a Tenth Amendment violation because he claimed that. This is a question for him to answer because you are right - "life, liberty, and property" are in the Fifth and Fourteenth.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
The argument was already made. If you do not wish to discuss the argument that I made, then I have no interest in wasting anymore time talking to you. You are being dishonest.
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You did not say exactly what part of the Tenth Amendment was violated. Show me the specific text in the Tenth Amendment (which is only one sentence) President Biden violated when he signed his mask mandate order. Then clearly explain how the EO is a violation of that text. If you know what the Tenth Amendment is, you can do this on your own easily without even looking it up.
 
Logician Man said:
I believe in the thread about this lady being arrested, it was clarified she was actually arrested for trespassing; not for refusing to wear a mask.
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that was made clear in LATER posts....

i was responding to one of earlier posts

after the charges became known...all became clear
 
Glitch said:
If she had an account with BOA, she had every right to be there. BOA entered into a contract with her when they opened up her account. They cannot refuse her access.
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She has access on line or through an ATM. She does not need to be on their property to access her account. She is not denied access.
 
Glitch said:
It is not a Tenth Amendment violation. The government imposed mask and social distancing mandates are a violation of the First, Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.
  • Government cannot tell anyone with whom they may or may not associate, or determine the number of people with whom they may associate, or the distance anyone is allowed to associate.
  • Government cannot restrict or limit anyone's right to practice their religious beliefs.
  • Government cannot deprive anyone of their life, liberty, or property without due process of law.
Everything I mentioned above makes any government imposed mask or social distancing mandate, at any level of government, unconstitutional and therefore illegal.
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BoA is not the government. There was no government requirement for a mask. A private business required her to wear a mask on it's property and she refused. There was no government mandate involved. Your argument is completely irrelevant.
 
bearpoker said:
BoA is not the government. There was no government requirement for a mask. A private business required her to wear a mask on it's property and she refused. There was no government mandate involved. Your argument is completely irrelevant.
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BOA has nothing to do with the thread topic either. It is only about the Tenth Amendment.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Simple enough, every week I will highlight a 10th amendment violation, ones I personally witness will be preferred, but a story in the news will suffice, people need to wrap their head around how much the government violates the constitution.

this weeks violation is the Biden federal mask mandates. Now I haven’t been riding local bus transit for awhile, but I moved to California and my car needs to be serviced before I can get the smog check needed to register it. So I dropped off my car at a mechanic and got on an LA metro bus. The bus is covered with placards saying that Bidens illegal mask order mandates masks on LA metro. This is wierd, this bus route is entirely within the same city! I checked and LA metro has no routes that leave the state of California. How is it that a federal order can apply on such a route?

so this week Joe Biden gets called out for violating the tenth amendment.
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Sorry, the LA bus system has accepted federal funds and as a result follows federal mandates. Just wear the mask whiner.
 
Glitch said:
She was charged with trespassing and resisting arrest. They know they can't charge her for being without a mask, because it is not against any law. She needs to sue the city of Galveston for violating her individual right to due process under the law, as required by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.
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You mean like the baker that wouldn't make a wedding cake for gay couples? Sorry...no shoes, no shirt, no mask...no business. Maybe you should rep her pro bono.
 
Glitch said:
Sorry, it doesn't quite work that way. She apparently has an account with BOA, so she does have a 'right' to be there. If they want to refund all her money and close her accounts, THEN they would have the 'right' to kick her off their property, but not until then.
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Yeah, only you're wrong. If she needs to close out her accounts, that can be done electronically or by appointment.
 
Why is everyone talking about something that has absolutely nothing to do with the Tenth Amendment in a thread that is only about the Tenth Amendment?

I am only staying out of the discussion about a woman in Texas because of that, not a lack of interest.
 
Glitch said:
Sorry, it doesn't quite work that way. She apparently has an account with BOA, so she does have a 'right' to be there. If they want to refund all her money and close her accounts, THEN they would have the 'right' to kick her off their property, but not until then.
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Doubling down on an incorrect statement doesn't make you right. Doing business with a company doesn't give you a right to enter their building. What if she was naked?
 
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