The weekly 10th amendment violation

[Questerr]

Has he never heard of the 95 thesis ?

I would bet he wishes the same thing happened to Lutherans as happened to the Cathars.

 

[Rich2018]

I would bet he wishes the same thing happened to Lutherans as happened to the Cathars.

The Albigensian Crusade -and, if you believe the Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, the Cathars kept the secret treasure of Jerusalem.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

If she had an account with BOA, she had every right to be there. BOA entered into a contract with her when they opened up her account. They cannot refuse her access.

Substitute the word "mask" with the word "clothes" and then tell us the bank cannot refuse her access. The fact is the bank has a mask policy (just like they have a clothes policy) and they are fully within their rights to enforce it.

 

[Rich2018]

Substitute the word "mask" with the word "clothes" and then tell us the bank cannot refuse her access. The fact is the bank has a mask policy (just like they have a clothes policy) and they are fully within their rights to enforce it.

Same if it was outside business hours.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Oh yes. A dirty backstabbing, perfidious traitor

The worst kind of human being

A RINO

He had the power to reject the election results but chose to confirm them. Even though we have incontrovertible proof that there was massive election fraud and Trump won by "a lot".

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Unfortunately, this is the justification for many federal "laws" that we have to follow. I remember when the minimum drinking age was 18 years old. The federal government stated that if a state did not raise their minimum drinking age to 21 years old, that state would lose federal road funding, something that would cost a state millions of dollars, so all the states followed suit and raised the drinking age across the US. Another example is the No Child Left Behind Act passed by Congress to help "raise the standard" in our public schools. Some school districts were smart enough to realize that that act was bad and voluntarily gave up federal school funding so they would not have to follow it.

When you take the king's coin you do the king's bidding.

When states accept federal funds (there is no constitutional requirement that the feds give any money to the states for any reason) the states surrender their sovereignty to that degree. Some call the federal strings attached to that money "tyranny" while others call it "accountability to the taxpayers." Don't like the rules that come with the funds? Forego the funds. Simple as that.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Are you telling me that I could walk into the polling place in the UK and pretend to be someone else and vote for them? Without some type of ID, that is possible.

In my state the only form of ID required is my signature. If, in the opinion of the election workers who process my ballot, the current signature matches the signature from the last time I voted, I get to vote. If not, other ID will be required before I vote. In over 40 years of voting my signature has never been challenged.

 

[Rich2018]

When you take the king's coin you do the king's bidding.

When states accept federal funds (there is no constitutional requirement that the feds give any money to the states for any reason) the states surrender their sovereignty to that degree. Some call the federal strings attached to that money "tyranny" while others call it "accountability to the taxpayers." Don't like the rules that come with the funds? Forego the funds. Simple as that.

He who pays the piper...

 

[HikerGuy83]

Simple enough, every week I will highlight a 10th amendment violation, ones I personally witness will be preferred, but a story in the news will suffice, people need to wrap their head around how much the government violates the constitution.

this weeks violation is the Biden federal mask mandates. Now I haven’t been riding local bus transit for awhile, but I moved to California and my car needs to be serviced before I can get the smog check needed to register it. So I dropped off my car at a mechanic and got on an LA metro bus. The bus is covered with placards saying that Bidens illegal mask order mandates masks on LA metro. This is wierd, this bus route is entirely within the same city! I checked and LA metro has no routes that leave the state of California. How is it that a federal order can apply on such a route?

so this week Joe Biden gets called out for violating the tenth amendment.

Any more ?

I agree that the 10th is violated on an hourly basis.

 

[Crakhobarbie]

Simple enough, every week I will highlight a 10th amendment violation, ones I personally witness will be preferred, but a story in the news will suffice, people need to wrap their head around how much the government violates the constitution.

this weeks violation is the Biden federal mask mandates. Now I haven’t been riding local bus transit for awhile, but I moved to California and my car needs to be serviced before I can get the smog check needed to register it. So I dropped off my car at a mechanic and got on an LA metro bus. The bus is covered with placards saying that Bidens illegal mask order mandates masks on LA metro. This is wierd, this bus route is entirely within the same city! I checked and LA metro has no routes that leave the state of California. How is it that a federal order can apply on such a route?

so this week Joe Biden gets called out for violating the tenth amendment.

There's already a precedent concerning mask and vaccine mandates. In 1905, a citizen argued in the Jacobson v. Massachusetts case that a smallpox inoculation mandate infringed on his rights, but the Supreme Court upheld the Cambridge Board of Health's authority to require the vaccine under the 10th Amendment.
In July a Florida court pointed to the 1905 case in ruling that a mask mandate did not violate any constitutional rights. "In every well-ordered society charged with the duty of conserving the safety of its members the rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand," Circuit Court Judge John Kastrenakes wrote in his ruling, quoting the Jacobson opinion.

Fact Check: Is a Mask Mandate Unconstitutional?

Lawsuits argue that being forced to wear a mask is a violation of constitutional rights, but a 115-year-old precedent has stood in the way of the suits succeeding.

www.newsweek.com

 

[HikerGuy83]

There's already a precedent concerning mask and vaccine mandates. In 1905, a citizen argued in the Jacobson v. Massachusetts case that a smallpox inoculation mandate infringed on his rights, but the Supreme Court upheld the Cambridge Board of Health's authority to require the vaccine under the 10th Amendment.
In July a Florida court pointed to the 1905 case in ruling that a mask mandate did not violate any constitutional rights. "In every well-ordered society charged with the duty of conserving the safety of its members the rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand," Circuit Court Judge John Kastrenakes wrote in his ruling, quoting the Jacobson opinion.

Fact Check: Is a Mask Mandate Unconstitutional?

Lawsuits argue that being forced to wear a mask is a violation of constitutional rights, but a 115-year-old precedent has stood in the way of the suits succeeding.

www.newsweek.com

Why would this even be argued at the SCOTUS level.

This is a state mandate and states have their own constitutions.

Thank you for the information in here. I was not aware the 10th was invoked (and it appears rightly so...saying, in effect, the state can do this unless you can prove it violates your state constitution). Or....leave us out of it.

 

[gino]

This is a tough one. The state should have the right to enforce certain health codes, no one is arguing that. The fact that the mask mandate is being enforced so unevenly across the US is a problem. This is a good example of states rights trumping the feds.

 

[HikerGuy83]

This is a tough one. The state should have the right to enforce certain health codes, no one is arguing that. The fact that the mask mandate is being enforced so unevenly across the US is a problem. This is a good example of states rights trumping the feds.

Not sure I understand.

The mask mandate is a federal one....isn't it (and I am truly asking) ?

 

[gino]

Not sure I understand.

The mask mandate is a federal one....isn't it (and I am truly asking) ?

If you go from state to state it differs GREATLY. I'm in Florida, and we just don't see many people in masks anymore where I live - I'd say less than one third of the people I see very day. Some states are back to everyone wears a mask all the time.

 

[Lloyd Christmas]

The weekly moronic right wing whine. actually its more like hourly

 

[Lloyd Christmas]

The OP should have included a clear explanation of why President Biden's mask mandate on public transportation violates the Tenth Amendment. All he did was complain about being required to wear a mask on a tax-funded county bus.

Which part of the Tenth Amendment specifically, since that is the title of this thread, factually makes a federal mask mandate on public transportation illegal?

Right wingers don't have actual facts or arguments. They state things as fact then deflect and project. THe way Fox news teaches them to be

 

[911Sparky]

No, she isn't. Government cannot deprive anyone of their life, liberty, or property without first providing due process under the law. Which makes all mask and social distancing mandates illegal.

If government wants to mandate that an individual must wear a mask or social distance government must present evidence before a court of law that proves beyond a reasonable doubt the individual is infected, contagious, and a threat to the public. If they do not do this for each and every individual, then they are violating the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the US Constitution.

This is not my opinion, that is the opinion of the Supreme Court in Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905):


Declaring an emergency does not give them the authority to violate the US Constitution whenever they feel like it.

Does the bank have the right to refuse service to a non mask wearing customer? Do I have the right to refuse entry into my home. if a guest refuses to wear a mask?

 

[HikerGuy83]

Right wingers don't have actual facts or arguments. They state things as fact then deflect and project. THe way Fox news teaches them to be

If you go from state to state it differs GREATLY. I'm in Florida, and we just don't see many people in masks anymore where I live - I'd say less than one third of the people I see very day. Some states are back to everyone wears a mask all the time.

I agree it is enforced differently.

I was just asking if you were referencing something that started at the federal level.

 

[Rich2018]

Any more ?

I agree that the 10th is violated on an hourly basis.

After 8 months you resurrect a dead thread ?

So it's about noon on the 1st November - please list the 12 violations of the 10A done today.

 

[Glitch]

Does the bank have the right to refuse service to a non mask wearing customer? Do I have the right to refuse entry into my home. if a guest refuses to wear a mask?

Are you confused? Do you think banks or yourself are somehow government? What part of "Government cannot deprive anyone of their life, liberty, or property without first providing due process under the law." has you so massively confused?

 

[Patriotic Voter]

Right wingers don't have actual facts or arguments. They state things as fact then deflect and project. The way Fox news teaches them to be

I need to hear straight from them why they choose not to think critically and use logic. Everyone who is old enough to vote and post here knows how to do it and that their obligation is to follow the path of righteousness, not the path to destruction.

 

[HikerGuy83]

After 8 months you resurrect a dead thread ?

So it's about noon on the 1st November - please list the 12 violations of the 10A done today.

I am new to the board.

And I am interested in the discussions had on the 10th amendment.

So I posted to the old threads I could find.

I don't get the problem with that (I even got a note from a moderator).

One of the threads is now 6 pages down the tracks.

I don't see what your problem is.

Or why you care.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I need to hear straight from them why they choose not to think critically and use logic. Everyone who is old enough to vote and post here knows how to do it and that their obligation is to follow the path of righteousness, not the path to destruction.

Where is that obligation written or signed off on ?

 

[Patriotic Voter]

Where is that obligation written or signed off on?

People learn this stuff in school.

 

[HikerGuy83]

People learn this stuff in school.

Please explain what they are taught.

Who decides what is the "path or righteousness" ?