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Yet we accommodate this political culture of violence as if they were entitled to special privilege as a religion.
I suggest they are not a religious order but a polity dedicated for centuries to imposition of their laws and culture on the rest of the world.
Well I guarantee 99.99% of the Muslims who want to immigrate are not fanatical Muslims.
As long as they keep their culture of violence over there, I don't care what they do. I have an issue with us getting involved in the first place.
Would you put your life up as collateral to that guarantee?
Of course it's contingent on definitions. I.E. What's fanatical? Is it those practicing FGM? or Honor Murders? or demeaning of women> or gays?
Or is it the simply those that would become martyrs by murder ?
Or is it those that agree with fatwa? (" In Sunni Islam any fatwā is non-binding, whereas in Shia Islam it could be considered by an individual as binding, depending on his or her relation")
We have had those types immigrating into Canada, and, I consider them fanatics. Regardless the % one slipping under the smoke screen of lies and instruction by some immigration lawyer is one too many. Those vetted and found acceptable under our values, I too will support. However, those perhaps considered as secular or moderates, are not following Islam according to fundamental Muslims and are not Muslims.
"THEY" have cells in most if not all Western Countries and there have been plots exposed as well as successful attacks in many Western democracies by radical Muslims.
So the bell has been rung, "they" have involved 'US". Sticking head in sand won't change that.
Islamist Muslims are not only our enemy, but the enemy of the sects within Islam itself.
by Islam.
The sectarian war between Shiites and Sunni and the rest of factions in the Islamic world a (culture and polity), continues as it has from the 8th century
Other faiths are also considered enemies of Islam, while perhaps millions (just?) of the 1.4 billion hate and kill not only one another but any other they encounter.
Being a Muslim is not a guarantee that a Muslim won't kill you for some reason. Shiites are murdered today by Sunni who kill Shia and either will continue to murder Christians or Baha'i or
those following Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism and Sikhism.
Yet we accommodate this political culture of violence as if they were entitled to special privilege as a religion.
I suggest they are not a religious order but a polity dedicated for centuries to imposition of their laws and culture on the rest of the world.
Looking at the history and contemporary behavior of Muslims should make it clear that Islam is NOT capable of living peacefully among either other Muslims nor any other polity that values human rights and freedom.
A polity such as the Third Reich was considered an enemy one dedicated to genocide by the free world.
Western democracies should not consider a Muslim as simply another benign immigrant. Given the factual history and contemporary behavior of Muslims, any seeking immigration or asylum in Western democracies should be fully vetted based not on jingoism, racism or xenophobia, but because of the fanaticism of some that practice the culture of hate that rises from Islam.
Certainly there are those Muslims that seek but a peaceful life, as there are and have been followers of other(Jews- Christians-Sikhs etc.) that have been fanatical monsters.
But TODAY, we need to accept the reality of a polity that would force laws and culture and restriction of our freedoms as those that exist in countries that follow Islam.
One cannot deny the violence and human rights violations and demeaning of women,gays and other religious by those holding Islamic political leadership.
One cannot deny the attempts by fundamentalists to insidiously impose Islamic laws or cultures on Western countries. (Sharia, camel's nose attempts in Canada during Ontario NDP government -example.)
One then must take reasonable care not to import those infected or carrying radical agendas/baggage into our democracies.
Should we not?
Is there not a compelling case to take a stand?
Religious fanaticism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As long as they keep their culture of violence over there, I don't care what they do. I have an issue with us getting involved in the first place.
Yes they are, Islam as many divisions each differing on what being a Muslim includes. Those that want to come to Western countries are those who are Muslims but do not follow extremist interpretations. They are progressively becoming more and more Liberal. The extremists make up .001% of the Muslim immigrants. If we are going to forbid Muslims form immigrating because of a very few extremists, we should stop Jews aswell because ultra-orthodox Jews do the same things.
How many Canadians have ever been killed by religiously motivated Islamic terrorism? The answer is zero. That compares rather badly to the thousands of Canadians sterilized by government Eugenics boards which existed up until 1972. Shariah law in Canada is a joke, Quebec being a Catholic theocracy is a matter of historical fact. Unpopular minorities aren't dangerous, the people who scapegoat them are.
Really, already finding out that some of the muslims from the Kenya attack lived in the US.Well I guarantee 99.99% of the Muslims who want to immigrate are not fanatical Muslims.
Really, already finding out that some of the muslims from the Kenya attack lived in the US.
They were probably born in the U.S. radicalized over the internet and went to Somalia like all the other similar cases of this.
So US born Muslims are not real muslims? How about the Boston Bomber kids. Where were they born?
Well I guarantee 99.99% of the Muslims who want to immigrate are not fanatical Muslims.
Yes they are, Islam as many divisions each differing on what being a Muslim includes. Those that want to come to Western countries are those who are Muslims but do not follow extremist interpretations.
I suspect the vast majority of Muslims wanting to immigrate to the USA, as well as those who have already immigrated, are trying to get away from the fanatics in their own countries and want only to live in peace.
They were probably born in the U.S. radicalized over the internet and went to Somalia like all the other similar cases of this.
Yes they are, Islam as many divisions each differing on what being a Muslim includes. Those that want to come to Western countries are those who are Muslims but do not follow extremist interpretations. They are progressively becoming more and more Liberal. The extremists make up .001% of the Muslim immigrants. If we are going to forbid Muslims form immigrating because of a very few extremists, we should stop Jews aswell because ultra-orthodox Jews do the same things.
Can't let this lie go unchallenged. Please let me know when an ultra-orthodox Jew blew himself up as a suicide bomber.
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