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.0007% (.007% cant remember which one). Wow.. These type of laws might do more harm than good!
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Last year, Wisconsin governor Scott Walker passed a law requiring citizens to show identification at the polls. While two state judges have blocked the law from going into effect, if the injunction is lifted the law would likely disenfranchise thousands of voters. The Center for American Progress visited the state during the contentious recall election to investigate.
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I can't get the video to play.
The only people who would be disenfranchised are illegals and those too stupid to go down to the DMV and get a ID.A ID is cheap and is required for getting a job,cashing a check, getting a loan, and many other things.
I have been asked for a photo ID to Vote long before either State I have lived in every passed a law about, it is just common sense for the workers at a polling place to verify who you are.
Like the video, I am sure there might be one or two with the 95 year old ladies problem, but the laws and enforcement of the are for the better good of all.
In California 232 dead people votes in one election
In Florida 600 dead people votes in one election
In New york 2,600 dead people voted
The list goes on, someone voted instead of the dead people because a photo ID was not required
So Yes, I support have a Photo ID to vote
How does requiring an a picture ID cost the government money? And why is having a picture ID only an unbearable burden when it comes to voting and not buying alcohol, or cigarettes, or boarding an airplane?Can we see a cite for these particular allegations..... even without a cite, this is hardly a problem. 600 people out of 8,000,000 people voting (Florida, the only state on that list that matters) ???? you have to be kidding. Who cares? This is your idea of how the government should spend its money?
How does requiring an a picture ID cost the government money? And why is having a picture ID only an unbearable burden when it comes to voting and not buying alcohol, or cigarettes, or boarding an airplane?
??? Unnecessary??? Requiring proof that you are who you say you are at a voting booth is unnecessary???1) Its totally unnecessary (I thought conservatives were against unnecessary regulations)
Explain how you have determined this.2) boarding a plane, buying alcohol and buying cigarettes are privileges; voting is a right.
Now this I agree with. It is a political ploy, except it is the left that is engaged in it. Requiring an ID at a voting booth is completely rational. The only logical reason to oppose it is because you know it will limit your sides ability to cheat.Again, this is a political ploy. Anyone that "thinks" otherwise is most likely being disingenuous.
The only people who would be disenfranchised are illegals and those too stupid to go down to the DMV and get a ID.A ID is cheap and is required for getting a job,cashing a check, getting a loan, and many other things.
Explain how you have determined this.
Not applying for a job, getting a job. People don't usually get every job they apply for, after all.Really, you had to show an ID when applying for a job? I've never had to. And I mean jobs in the legal field. Where there's millions of dollars at stake, not just burned fries. What jobs did you have to show an ID to apply for?
Trouble is, ID that is acceptable for the I-9 is insufficient for some new state ID laws.[...] The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 required that all new hires provide proof of their identity as well as elgibility to work in the United States. Proof of identity must then be documented on the I-9 form and signed by both the employee and the manager or HR person. It's the law.
I find it very, very difficult to believe that employers in the legal field regulary break the law, so congratulations on your career longevity.
USCIS - I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification
You want them to let the hecklers in so they can shout down the president while he's giving a speech? Really?The Obama campaign has been so psyched out by Romney infiltrators at their events they have resorted to checking IDs at the door. [...]
You want them to let the hecklers in so they can shout down the president while he's giving a speech? Really?
The latest right wing shenanigans -- like the Rose Garden heckler -- show just how immature their ideology really is. But please, I'm sure there is a thread or six on this somewhere here, please go find one of those threads and don't derail this one.
Let's get real, Republicans do not want, nor have they every wanted broad participation in elections... it just does not favor them.
Trouble is, ID that is acceptable for the I-9 is insufficient for some new state ID laws.
For example, a school photo ID plus a Social Security card is sufficient for the I-9. It is insufficient in:
* Georgia,
* Indiana,
* Mississippi (new law awaiting USDOJ approval),
* South Carolina,
* Tennessee,
* Texas (new law awaiting USDOJ approval).
Red states all. So... what's good enough to get you a job by federal standards is not good enough to get you into the voting booth in some red states (with more coming, I'd imagine, as soon as the lobbyist-funded ALEC gets back to work).
Voter ID: State Requirements
INDIANAGeorgia driver’s license, even if expired
ID card issued by the state of Georgia or the federal government
Free voter ID card issued by the state or county
U.S. passport
Valid employee ID card containing a photograph from any branch, department, agency, or entity of the U.S. Government, Georgia, or any county, municipality, board, authority or other entity of this state
Valid U.S. military identification card
Valid tribal photo ID
MISSISSIPPISpecific forms of ID are not listed in statute. ID must be issued by the state of Indiana or the U.S. government and must show the following:
Name of individual to whom it was issued, which must conform to the individual's registration record
Photo of the person to whom it was issued
Expiration date (if it is expired, it must have an expiration date after the most recent general election; military IDs are exempted from the requirement that ID bear an expiration date)
Must be issued by the United States or the state of Indiana
SOUTH CAROLINAMississippi's new constitutional amendment simply says "government-issued photo identification." Implementing legislation and/or administrative rules will be necessary to define precisely what this means.
TENNESSEESouth Carolina driver's license
Other form of photo ID issued by the SC Dept. of Motor Vehicles
Passport
Military ID bearing a photo issued by the federal government
South Carolina voter registration card with a photo
TEXASTN driver’s license
Valid photo ID card issued by any state
Valid photo ID license issued by TN Dept. of Safety
Valid U.S. passport
Valid U.S. military ID with photo
Driver's license
Election identification certificate
Dept. of Public Safety personal ID card
U.S. military ID
U.S. citizenship certificate
U.S. passport
License to carry a concealed handgun issued by the Dept. of Public Safety
All of the above must include a photo of the voter. With the exception of the certificate of citizenship, these forms of ID cannot be expired, or cannot have expired more than 60 days before the election.
You should already have an ID anyway, to work, to drive, to have a home....so pulling it out at the entrance to a poll isn't a big deal. Even my 8 & 11y/o sons have state issued IDs. Adults have no excuse.
[/FONT][/COLOR][/LEFT]The Victims of Voter ID Laws - YouTube
.0007% (.007% cant remember which one). Wow.. These type of laws might do more harm than good!
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That is true, for sure, even the libtards KNOW that. What you need to examine is WHY allowing a person to vote WITHOUT postive ID, defining not only who they are but where they live, allowing them to vote as ANYONE who they SAY that they are, and thus as many times as they can supply a name/address combination, that matches the voter registration records, is good or fair? IMHO, it is to allow the manufacturing of votes, that libtards SWEAR is not happening, to continue unchallenged. ;-)
Department of Voter Registration
CITY OF NEW YORK
VOTER LICENSE APPLICATION SECTION LICENSE DIVISION ROOM 110A
INSTRUCTIONS TO ALL VOTER LICENSE APPLICANTS
The attached application MUST be type written and signed. Only the original application will be accepted. DO NOT SUBMIT A PHOTOCOPY. The application must be completely filled out and presented by you personally at the Voter Licensing Division.
At the time you submit your application, you must furnish the items listed below that are applicable to you. You must submit original copies of certificates, licenses, etc. In addition, a legible photocopy of each item submitted must accompany the original or certified copy. (A copy certified by the issuing agency as true and complete is also acceptable in lieu of the original.) Your application will not be accepted without producing the required documents.
1. Fees. Two (2) separate fees are required. These are payable by certified check, bank check, money order or
credit card. All fees are non-refundable.
– $340.00 - Made payable to New York City Department of Voter Registration
– $ 91.50 - Made payable to New York City Department of Voter Registration
2. Photographs. Two (2) recent color photographs of yourself. They should measure 1½ x 1½ inches and show you from the chest up. Do not wear any article of clothing or adornment that obscures your facial features.
3. Birth Certificate. In lieu of your birth certificate, some other proof of your birth date, e.g., a military record, U.S. passport or baptismal certificate, must be submitted.
4. Proof of Citizenship/Alien Registration. If you were born outside the United States, you must submit your naturalization papers or evidence of citizenship if derived from your parents. All other applicants born outside the United States must submit their Alien Registration Card. If you have lived in this country less than 7 years you must submit a good conduct certificate from your country of origin.
5. Military Discharge. If you served in the armed forces of the United States, you must submit your separation papers (DD 214) and your discharge.
6. Proof of Residence. You must submit proof of your present address. Proof may consist of, but is not limited to, a real estate tax bill, ownership shares in a cooperative or condominium, or a lease. You may also be requested to supply further documentation, i.e., a New York State Driver’s License, a New York State Income Tax Return, a Utility Bill, etc.
7. A.) Arrest Information: If you were ever arrested, indicted or summonsed (other than parking violations) for any reason you must answer Yes to question-23 and submit a certificate of disposition showing the offense and the disposition. Also, you must submit a detailed statement describing the circumstances surrounding each arrest. YOU MUST DO THIS EVEN IF: the case was dismissed, the record sealed or the case nullified by operation of law. The New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services will report to The Department of Voter Registration every instance involving the arrest of an applicant. DO NOT rely on anyone’s representation that you need not list a previous arrest because it was sealed. If you were ever convicted or pleaded guilty to a felony, or a serious offense as defined in Penal Law Section 265.00(17), an original Certificate of Relief from Disabilities must be submitted.
B.) Summons Information: If you have received a summons for other than a parking violation you must answer
Yes to question-23. You must list the violation and disposition for each summons received.
C.) Order of Protection: If you have ever had an Order of Protection or Restraining Order issued against you, or issued on your behalf against anyone, you must list the following information: Court of Issuance; Complainant’s or Respondent/Defendant’s name, including address and phone number; Complainant’s or Respondent/
Defendant’s relationship to you; Reason for issuance of Order of Protection or Restraining Order.
8. Letter of Necessity. All applicants for a Voter License and those seeking an opinion license for use in connection with their religious views MUST complete the Letter of Necessity found on page 3 of the application. NO SUBSTITUTES WILL BE ACCEPTED.
9. You must bring your original social security card when you apply.
These type of laws might do more harm than good!
I present perspective.You present this NYC madness as having to do with voting, yet it seems to be an application for a handgun permit, since I am sure that it is ILLEGAL to charge $431.50 to register to vote per the 24th amendment to our constitution. Only the 2nd amendment may be "infringed" by the states/cities, all other constitutional rights must be free, based on the current libtard "logic".
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