The US should generously fund humanitarian support in Afghanistan

[Razoo]

When the USA gov't ****s with others who pays the price? Not gov't officials. Try innocent Americans here and abroad.

 

[Cardinal]

The US could and should fund the effort. It'd cost what one-and-a-half days of war in Afghanistan costs:

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www.democracynow.org

Do you not understand what the Taliban is?

 

[Antiwar]

Do you not understand what the Taliban is?

What makes you think that the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees would give money (and weapons) to Afghanistan like the USG did? As far as I can tell, the UNHCR aid would be to help refugees that seek asylum outside of Afghanistan.

Somebody (try to) tell the conservatives in this thread.

 

[Antiwar]

When the USA gov't ****s with others who pays the price? Not gov't officials. Try innocent Americans here and abroad.

What about the millions of non-Americans harmed by US militarism? Many of them are innocent.

 

[Craig234]

Well, this is what they get when they **** with us.

Uh, this is what the vast majority of Aghans who had nothing to do with 9/11 get. But look at the bright side, there are members of Al Queda who said the same thing you did, about 9/11 is what we get when we **** with them.

 

[Antiwar]

One good thing about aid is that it can act as a deterrent against them doing things we don’t like in the future, like harboring Al Qaeda.

If not for foreign aid to countries like Pakistan, Egypt, Palestine, Israel, etc… the world today would be a far more chaotic, turbulent, and unstable place (both geopolitically and economically). Not good for business. We really are still sort of the world’s policeman. It’s expensive, but the cost of not doing so could be even more. Far, far more.

The reason the US isn't the world's police is because the goal isn't to arrest and try people for crimes. Police don't bomb foreign countries and try to install governments favorable to them.

 

[gbg3]

Outside of a very warped modern liberal's mind, how does one "generously fund humanitarian support in Afghanistan" who happens to be in the hands of the Taliban who happens to be in bed with al-Qaeda and ISIS?

You guys going to say "pretty please don't use the money to fund the next plane flown into a building?"

That's the exact question I wanted to ask. I'll read on to see if you got any good answers.

 

[noonereal]

The US should generously fund humanitarian support in Afghanistan​

What?

After 20 years we should give more?

**** that.

 

[OrphanSlug]

That's the exact question I wanted to ask. I'll read on to see if you got any good answers.

In short, no one in the thread can articulate how to fund humanitarian support in Afghanistan while in the hands of the Taliban.

 

[gbg3]

In short, no one in the thread can articulate how to fund humanitarian support in Afghanistan while in the hands of the Taliban.

Oh course they can't. It's completely crazy - to fund the Taliban!!!!

 

[OrphanSlug]

Oh course they can't. It's completely crazy - to fund the Taliban!!!!

Makes me wonder where their calls have been for “funding humanitarian support” for all these other nations in the hands of very dubious characters.

Moreover, who gets the check?

 

[Antiwar]

What?

After 20 years we should give more?

**** that.

I believe the funding is for refugees, not more of the same funding and warring of the past 20 years.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Uh, this is what the vast majority of Aghans who had nothing to do with 9/11 get. But look at the bright side, there are members of Al Queda who said the same thing you did, about 9/11 is what we get when we **** with them.

I am all about revenge.

 

[OrphanSlug]

I believe the funding is for refugees, not more of the same funding and warring of the past 20 years.

And how would you get that to them, or are you only referring to who we get out?

 

[noonereal]

I believe the funding is for refugees, not more of the same funding and warring of the past 20 years.

No.

No more cash for anything.

 

[Razoo]

What about the millions of non-Americans harmed by US militarism? Many of them are innocent.

That too .......

 

[Antiwar]

And how would you get that to them, or are you only referring to who we get out?

I'm not getting any money to anyone; UNHCR is. I don't know how they would do it, but I'm absolutely sure that trying to help people inside and that got out of Afghanistan is a million times better than actively trying to harm people in Afghanistan, like the US has done for the past 20 years in Afghanistan.

Here's what little information I've found:

We call on donors to remain steadfast in their support for humanitarian operations in Afghanistan and are also appealing for support. UNHCR’s Supplementary Appeal for the Afghanistan Situation highlights US$62.8 million as urgent needs to support the response for internally displaced people in Afghanistan as well as preparedness in Afghanistan and its neighbouring countries. These requirements are part of the US$351 million requirements for the Afghanistan situation, which remains drastically underfunded at 43 per cent.

UNHCR warns that humanitarian needs in Afghanistan cannot be forgotten

UNHCR, the UN Refugee Agency, is concerned about the prevailing humanitarian needs within Afghanistan, and urges support to ensure that all those requiring

www.unhcr.org

 

[Antiwar]

I am all about revenge.

Yes, neoconservatives are all about Old Testament revenge.

Neoconservatism is a political movement born in the United States during the 1960s among liberal hawks who became disenchanted with the increasingly pacifist foreign policy of the Democratic Party and with the growing New Left and counterculture of the 1960s, particularly the Vietnam protests. Some also began to question their liberal beliefs regarding domestic policies such as the Great Society. Neoconservatives typically advocate the promotion of democracy and interventionism in international affairs, including peace through strength, and are known for espousing disdain for communism and political radicalism.[1][2]

Prominent neoconservatives in the George W. Bush administration included Paul Wolfowitz, Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle and Paul Bremer. While not identifying as neoconservatives, senior officials Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld listened closely to neoconservative advisers regarding foreign policy, especially the defense of Israel and the promotion of American influence in the Middle East. Many of its adherents became politically influential during the Republican presidential administrations of the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and 2000s, peaking in influence during the administration of George W. Bush, when they played a major role in promoting and planning the 2003 invasion of Iraq and invasion of Afghanistan.[3]

 

[Hamish Howl]

Yes, neoconservatives are all about Old Testament revenge.

So they're not ALL bad...

 

[Antiwar]

So they're not ALL bad...

No one is all bad.

 

[Hamish Howl]

No one is all bad.

I'll die trying.

 

[Antiwar]

I'll die trying.

Please pollute a different thread.

 

[Tigerace117]

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What makes you think that the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees would give money (and weapons) to Afghanistan like the USG did? As far as I can tell, the UNHCR aid would be to help refugees that seek asylum outside of Afghanistan.

Somebody (try to) tell the conservatives in this thread.

Do you....do you actually think the UN could give money to people in Afghanistan without the Taliban, who control the country, seizing said money?

There’s a massive difference, btw, between giving aid to refugee communities and what you and DemocracyNow proposed

 

[Craig234]

I am all about revenge.

So is Al Queda. I see a resemblance.

 

[Hamish Howl]

So is Al Queda. I see a resemblance.

No, Al Queda is about reinforcing clan-based theocracy.

They were never SERIOUS about revenge. If they were, they'd have crashed those planes on the gulf coast refineries. They're basically just attention whores.