The US hypocrisy about Israel’s nuclear weapons must stop (1 Viewer)

[Tigerace117]

For your education:

https://research.un.org/en/unmembers/elections

Guy who claims Israel is “abiding by international law”— a laughably untrue statement even if one didn’t even consider Gaza— talking about “education” is hilarious.

 

[lwf]

Guy who claims Israel is “abiding by international law”— a laughably untrue statement even if one didn’t even consider Gaza— talking about “education” is hilarious.

I accept your concession.

 

[Tigerace117]

I accept your concession.

Your inability to defend your claims is noted.

 

[markdc]

@MauiMan
“The US hypocrisy about Israel’s nuclear weapons must stop”

IMO, sovereign nations have the right to possess nuclear weapons to protect themselves. It’s not our business to tell them they can’t. And to those who say that enemies like Iran and North Korea shouldn’t have them because they might attack us, well, I guess they could. I wouldn’t recommend it, though.

Mark

 

[MauiMan]

@MauiMan
“The US hypocrisy about Israel’s nuclear weapons must stop”

IMO, sovereign nations have the right to possess nuclear weapons to protect themselves. It’s not our business to tell them they can’t. And to those who say that enemies like Iran and North Korea shouldn’t have them because they might attack us, well, I guess they could. I wouldn’t recommend it, though.

Mark

Oh, please. Sovereign nations might have rights, but letting every country have nukes is a terrible idea. You're basically saying it's fine for unstable regimes to hold the world hostage just because they can. Iran and North Korea with nuclear weapons? That's not a maybe they'd absolutely use them if it suited their agenda.

You're delusional if you think not recommending it stops anyone. What's your logic here trust everyone with a bomb and hope for the best?

How's that worked out historically?

 

[markdc]

Oh, please. Sovereign nations might have rights, but letting every country have nukes is a terrible idea. You're basically saying it's fine for unstable regimes to hold the world hostage just because they can. Iran and North Korea with nuclear weapons? That's not a maybe they'd absolutely use them if it suited their agenda.

You're delusional if you think not recommending it stops anyone. What's your logic here trust everyone with a bomb and hope for the best?

How's that worked out historically?

Hey, there are a lot of nations that I’d prefer not have nuclear weapons. How do you propose preventing them from doing so?

You can invade them like the U.S. did to Iraq. That was a disaster. You can attack their nuclear facilities. It looks like Israel may do that with Iran. That will probably spark off a terrible regional war. You can try to sanction these countries. That didn’t work with North Korea. I guess the best option is to strike an agreement like the Iran nuclear deal. But I think that agreement was only for ten years, and what I’ve heard, it largely benefitted the Iranians, who carried on terrorist activities against the U.S. There’s also the possibility that the country in question will violate the agreement or another U.S. president will come in and tear it up.



Mark

 

[Craig234]

Iran’s desire for nuclear weapons is fundamentally defensive in nature, born out as the result of American geopolitical aggression across the world, and especially right next door in Iraq.

It's not even clear they have a 'desire' for nuclear weapons. They say their religion is against nuclear weapons, but that they might be forced to get them for defense against their wishes to not have them.

 

[Craig234]

Oh, please. Sovereign nations might have rights, but letting every country have nukes is a terrible idea.

Letting ANY country have nukes is a terrible idea. It's why for decades presidents and top officials have advocated for a global ban.

You're basically saying it's fine for unstable regimes to hold the world hostage just because they can. Iran and North Korea with nuclear weapons? That's not a maybe they'd absolutely use them if it suited their agenda.

North Korea, yes. The rogue state, yes. Not Iran. Iran is no North Korea. Iran having nukes has risks. The rogue state having them has risks. The US having them has risks.

 

[snakestretcher]

Well gee - if you want to know what the nature and purpose of Israeli nuclear weapons is, that's simple: self-defense against virtually every country surrounding them that refuses to accept their right to exist and has called for their utter annihilation.

Nonsense, and I sense an addiction to Israeli propaganda in your contribution. You probably also believe that 60 years of illegal occupation is leftist lies, and Israel is justified in her pursuit of genocide-as publicly advocated by that slime, Smotrich.