The US Attack On Iran Is Illegal.

[L88]

The threat has been neutralized.

The United States needs to remove all sanctions on Iran; they are no longer a nuclear threat!

Iran is still a threat in many locations in the world. Don't get too happy yet.

 

[oneworld2]

The threat has been neutralized.

The United States needs to remove all sanctions on Iran; they are no longer a nuclear threat!

The threat of the USA, the biggest gang of ****s on the planet, hasn't been neutralized nor has the threat posed by their nuclear armed lackies, Israel.

You could have renewed the old nuclear deal BUT you had to drop a load of bombs from the safety of being out of range.

That you seem proud of this illegal attack just fits in with my opening comment, when the only weapon you have is a club, every problem looks like a skull.

You should be embarrassed by your own state's rogue and illegal actions against Iran imo but it's obvious you aren't

 

[oneworld2]

Iran is still a threat in many locations in the world. Don't get too happy yet.

Your own state is the biggest gangster/mobster state on the planet and you try to wax about the threats posed by others?

Look in the ****ing mirror once every decade or so or are you so hopelessly lost to the US propaganda systems bs that you haven't the independence of thought required to see such an obvious truth even if you did look?

 

[L88]

Your own state is the biggest gangster/mobster state on the planet and you try to wax about the threats posed by others?

Look in the ****ing mirror once every decade or so or are you so hopelessly lost to the US propaganda systems bs that you haven't the independence of thought required to see such an obvious truth even if you did look?

Oh another ****n enlightened individual from the largest failed empire.

You do realize these extremists are being born out of former European colonies. Has there been a bigger **** up on the planet than the UK with Iran?

It's like every disaster in the world starts in a former Great Britain Colony. Great legacy.

Time for you to read some history and learn the truth. Yes the US jumped in at the UK's request and with the UKs false information to **** up things even more.

The US needs to ignore Europe and their issues. Maybe Russia will provide the old European shells with clear guidance.

 

[Bucky]

The threat of the USA, the biggest gang of ****s on the planet, hasn't been neutralized nor has the threat posed by their nuclear armed lackies, Israel.

You could have renewed the old nuclear deal BUT you had to drop a load of bombs from the safety of being out of range.

That you seem proud of this illegal attack just fits in with my opening comment, when the only weapon you have is a club, every problem looks like a skull.

You should be embarrassed by your own state's rogue and illegal actions against Iran imo but it's obvious you aren't

What side are you on?

 

[Fledermaus]

What side are you on?

Hamas.

 

[Bucky]

Hamas.

Peace through Strength.

Trump seaks peace.

 

[pedex]

What side are you on?

Why does it have to be about sides ? Criticism or facts don't have feelings or sides.

 

[oneworld2]

What side are you on?

The opposite one to you, international law and justice

 

[oneworld2]

Peace through Strength.

Trump seaks peace.

Utter bollocks, they could sell you a bridge if they wanted to.

You are part of a cult just like those indoctrinated ****ers at WACO, you just don't know it.

You could have easily addressed this by peacefully negotiating a new Iran nuclear deal like Obama did BUT that's not Trumps way because he is a bully and and a narcissist . Are those the traits you admire in people?

 

[Bodi]

I can't recall seeing a thread with this title and so....................

The USA is now adding Iran to the list of countries it has illegally attacked since 2001.

Are the Americans here happy with their toxic rogue state hit list?

Aren't they embarrassed when they try to call out others for their crimes while having their own arses firmly hanging out of the window?

Do they still believe the US bs propaganda about their own self proclaimed sanctity ?

Acts of War are never legal... but they are sometimes necessary.



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[oneworld2]

Acts of War are never legal... but they are sometimes necessary.



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Wrong but that's what you do, wrong at a professional level

 

[Bodi]

Bodi said:
Acts of War are never legal... but they are sometimes necessary.

Wrong but that's what you do, wrong at a professional level

Which wars are legal?


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[oneworld2]

Which wars are legal?


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Acts/Wars of genuine self defence or those authorized by the UNSC.

Acts of mass violence are also covered by IHL to limit civilian suffering

 

[Bucky]

Utter bollocks, they could sell you a bridge if they wanted to.

You are part of a cult just like those indoctrinated ****ers at WACO, you just don't know it.

You could have easily addressed this by peacefully negotiating a new Iran nuclear deal like Obama did BUT that's not Trumps way because he is a bully and and a narcissist . Are those the traits you admire in people?

I admire politicians like Margaret Thatcher.

If you set out to be liked, you should be prepared to compromise on anything at any time, and you will achieve nothing. Trumo is not on this earth to be liked or compromised.

 

[Visbek]

I hate to break it to you too but I don't care about your domestic set up, the attack is a violation of international law.

lol... Well, the only thing more complex on these matters than US law is international law. Again, it is absolutely NOT a slam dunk either way.

They have the right to attack US military stuff on the grounds that the US illegally attacked their nuclear facilities. shocking that you don't understand this stuff

Right back at you there.

Sorry not sorry, but there are no retaliation or revenge clauses in international law governing military actions.

Of course, Iran wasn't actually trying to retaliate, and they certainly weren't acting in self-defense. That would be absurd on numerous levels, including:
- The Qatar base wasn't used in the bombings
- The bombers flew from the middle of the US to Iran and back again without landing
- Iran notified the US military in advance of the strikes

No, it's obvious that Iran just wanted to look tough, mostly so the current government could tell its citizens that it's taking action. And I'm pretty sure there is no "propaganda" exception to international law, too.

That would be an act of aggression against US forces in Qatar BUT they attacked that base because the US attacked them first. Seems you don't get it.

lol

It is very clear that Iran launched its completely ineffectual attack for show. That doesn't mean that the attack was legal under international law... especially if you're going to be super strict about the application of those laws.

You don't have to declare war to be guilty of illegal attacks. Your commentary is frighteningly daft imo

No, I'm just talking about US law. You even KNOW I was discussing US law. Yeesh.

And no it wouldn't justify a full scale invasion of Iran because you evidently have no ****ing idea about the proportionality side of international law.

Hello? I'm trying to make the point that these kinds of small scale attacks are NOT declarations of war. Try to keep up.

How are they legal?

I already explained it, and yes I'm talking about US law. Try to keep up.

 

[rahl]

I can't recall seeing a thread with this title and so....................

The USA is now adding Iran to the list of countries it has illegally attacked since 2001.

Are the Americans here happy with their toxic rogue state hit list?

Aren't they embarrassed when they try to call out others for their crimes while having their own arses firmly hanging out of the window?

Do they still believe the US bs propaganda about their own self proclaimed sanctity ?

lol no, it wasn’t illegal.

 

[oneworld2]

lol no, it wasn’t illegal.

Of course it's illegal.

The US wasn't attacked by Iran nor does Iran pose a credible threat to the US.

The attacks never had UN authorization and wouldn't have gotten it because of the above.

It also never exhausted the negotiating process which is also a legal requirement.

You are talking through your arse and haven't offered anything to back your claim.

 

[rahl]

Of course it's illegal.

Not it isn’t.

The US wasn't attacked by Iran nor does Iran pose a credible threat to the US.

The attacks never had UN authorization and wouldn't have gotten it because of the above.

The UN is meaningless to US ability to conduct warfare.

It also never exhausted the negotiating process which is also a legal requirement.

No it isn’t.

You are talking through your arse and haven't offered anything to back your claim.

Other than the constitution and war powers act

I hate Trump with a passion. But it wasn’t illegal to attack Iran.

 

[Cordelier]

I can't recall seeing a thread with this title and so....................

The USA is now adding Iran to the list of countries it has illegally attacked since 2001.

Are the Americans here happy with their toxic rogue state hit list?

Aren't they embarrassed when they try to call out others for their crimes while having their own arses firmly hanging out of the window?

Do they still believe the US bs propaganda about their own self proclaimed sanctity ?

There's no way to deny it - it was a violation of international law.

 

[Gaius46]

I can't recall seeing a thread with this title and so....................

The USA is now adding Iran to the list of countries it has illegally attacked since 2001.

Are the Americans here happy with their toxic rogue state hit list?

Aren't they embarrassed when they try to call out others for their crimes while having their own arses firmly hanging out of the window?

Do they still believe the US bs propaganda about their own self proclaimed sanctity ?

It is not clear that the attack was illegal. There is virtually zero case law on where the line is that separates actions the President can take as CinC and what requires Congressional approval.

This may be a good test case to figure where that line actually is.

 

[oneworld2]

There's no way to deny it - it was a violation of international law.

Credit to you for having the capacity to think for yourself on this, in a land of hopelessly indoctrinated people.

 

[oneworld2]

It is not clear that the attack was illegal. There is virtually zero case law on where the line is that separates actions the President can take as CinC and what requires Congressional approval.

This may be a good test case to figure where that line actually is.

Regardless of US law, it is a clear violation of international law. That's the point of this thread.

 

[Gaius46]

Regardless of US law, it is a clear violation of international law. That's the point of this thread.

which law? Please be specific.

 

[oneworld2]

Why are you laughing like some mad bastard instead of addressing the point?

The US wasn;t attacked by Iran, that's totally obvious so all you can do is laugh ?

How pathetic is that!! lol

The UN is meaningless to US ability to conduct warfare.

Yep because it is a rogue state but that doesn't change the illegality of the attack itself

No it isn’t.

Yes it is, as referred to in Article 2-3

" All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered."

Other than the constitution and war powers act

I hate Trump with a passion. But it wasn’t illegal to attack Iran.

Maybe not under US law ( but that's hardly a surprise ) but under international law definitely.