The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American College of

[William Rea]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

People self-identifying as trans kill themselves at 10x the rate as those who learned to live life as the sex they were born, who have a suicide rate around 4%. So...seems pretty clear that self-identifying as the sex you were not born as is bad for your health. Why encourage that silliness then?




Considering you are the guy who constantly argues that men having sex with men has nothing to do with HIV transmission...I'll store your opinion where it belongs.

And, we have now gone full circle back to your original debunked position like CC predicted we would. To be fair, it wasn't a difficult prediction to make, this is a common pattern of argument with fundagelicals.

 

[legalimmigrant]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

Parents "condition" children to be bigoted, hateful, arrogant, self-important, demeaning, selfish, and self-righteous.

Did you ever tell your parents to quit that crap?

 

[maquiscat]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

Normal in the normal sense. You know, boys have penises and girls, vaginas, Men with dicks cannot be women, and women with vaginas cannot be men. That sort of normal.

You didn't say normal, you said normalized, which technically means made normal. Thus the question, because I was not sure that you meant it that way.

 

[maquiscat]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

Statistics show that the single greatest risk factor is men having sex with men. If it (the highest risk factor) was unsafe sex, then hetero white men would be pretty high on the list. But, they are not even on the list.

No the statistics show that the greatest risk group is men having sex with men. This is the group that has the highest rate of those engaging in risky behavior. Risky behavior and unsafe sex are two different things. Unsafe sex is lack of protection for STD's and pregnancy. Risky behavior would include multiple, non-exclusive partners, as well as the engaging in anal sex, which causes a higher chance of transmission, and is not limited to any particular gender combination. It is possible to engage in risky behavior while still practicing safe sex. I am in the risky behavior group and I do not engage in sex with other men, not even my husband. Aside from my two wife, I have had and will likely have again, other partners. This is what puts me into the risky behavior group, even though I use condoms and regularly test.

 

[maquiscat]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

Now, that's wishful thinking. 0% chance. What do you do, test each other every time you have sex?

If they are clean to start with and monogamous then the chance is 0%. Or at the worst, their chance is the same as the rest of the world, and subject to the risk of via blood transfusion and other non-sexual vectors. Even you have to have had some clue about how this actually works.

 

[calamity]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

You may have dated more men than me. But perhaps there are some that don't fit your stereotype.

Perhaps I'm better at choosing than you.

If I were to do men, I sure as hell would not waste my time "dating." That's just crap we do to get into women's pants, because it's somewhat required. Men skip the formalities and get right down to business.

It would actually be a better option if:
1. There was no AIDS
2. I was as attracted to buttholes as I am vaginas.

 

[calamity]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

No the statistics show that the greatest risk group is men having sex with men. This is the group that has the highest rate of those engaging in risky behavior. Risky behavior and unsafe sex are two different things. Unsafe sex is lack of protection for STD's and pregnancy. Risky behavior would include multiple, non-exclusive partners, as well as the engaging in anal sex, which causes a higher chance of transmission, and is not limited to any particular gender combination. It is possible to engage in risky behavior while still practicing safe sex. I am in the risky behavior group and I do not engage in sex with other men, not even my husband. Aside from my two wife, I have had and will likely have again, other partners. This is what puts me into the risky behavior group, even though I use condoms and regularly test.

Straight white men have unprotected anal sex. But, yet, their numbers on contracting HIV are so low that they are not even on the CDC's HIV list. And there are a lot more of them than any of the other male categories that dominate the list.

You can ignore all that while you spew your PC rubbish, but it changes nothing. The problem is obvious: men having sex with men is by far the leading risk factor for contracting HIv.

 

[calamity]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

If they are clean to start with and monogamous then the chance is 0%. Or at the worst, their chance is the same as the rest of the world, and subject to the risk of via blood transfusion and other non-sexual vectors. Even you have to have had some clue about how this actually works.

The only person you know for sure is monogamous or not is yourself. So, for gay men, the only 100% safe sex is masturbation. Using a condom 100% of the time, is probably good enough though. Relying on a parter's monogamy not so much.

 

[legalimmigrant]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

Straight white men have unprotected anal sex. But, yet, their numbers on contracting HIV are so low that they are not even on the CDC's HIV list. And there are a lot more of them than any of the other male categories that dominate the list.

You can ignore all that while you spew your PC rubbish, but it changes nothing. The problem is obvious: men having sex with men is by far the leading risk factor for contracting HIv.

Can somebody explain why having sex with a man's butt is more fun than with a woman's vagina?

 

[William Rea]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

Can somebody explain why having sex with a man's butt is more fun than with a woman's vagina?

Can you explain why you are so concerned about what other people are doing to each other?

 

[maquiscat]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

Straight white men have unprotected anal sex. But, yet, their numbers on contracting HIV are so low that they are not even on the CDC's HIV list. And there are a lot more of them than any of the other male categories that dominate the list.

You can ignore all that while you spew your PC rubbish, but it changes nothing. The problem is obvious: men having sex with men is by far the leading risk factor for contracting HIv.

That's because they are having unprotected anal sex in few numbers with fewer partners. The more partners a straight white male has, particularly engaging in anal sex, the higher the risk factor. The less partners a gay male has, or the less anal sex he has, the lower the risk factor.

And before we go too off topic, all this is showing is that improper interpretation of data leads to the bad conclusions you invariably can't me up with. You have shown you have no comprehension of how statistics or studies work.

 

[maquiscat]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

The only person you know for sure is monogamous or not is yourself. So, for gay men, the only 100% safe sex is masturbation. Using a condom 100% of the time, is probably good enough though. Relying on a parter's monogamy not so much.

Not exactly sure what your point is here as this would be a universal issue, and not limited to any one demographic. So a straight married couple is also not 100% safe since neither can rely on the other's monogamy, by your statement above. However reality shows different. While cheating partners are great for stories and gossip, truth is not many run outside their committed relationships.

 

[maquiscat]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

Can somebody explain why having sex with a man's butt is more fun than with a woman's vagina?

It's all a matter of taste. Just because you don't like broccoli, doesn't mean there aren't others who do. And that desire/taste can run with any combinations of partners, including women penetrating men. Yes with the strap on, since I can practically hear your reply.

 

[calamity]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

That's because they are having unprotected anal sex in few numbers with fewer partners. The more partners a straight white male has, particularly engaging in anal sex, the higher the risk factor. The less partners a gay male has, or the less anal sex he has, the lower the risk factor.

Ok. But, what exactly are you arguing--that gay men are sexually promiscuous pigs too stupid to use condoms? If you say so...I certainly will not argue against that one.

And before we go too off topic, all this is showing is that improper interpretation of data leads to the bad conclusions you invariably can't me up with. You have shown you have no comprehension of how statistics or studies work.

No. It shows clearly that men who have sex with men are the highest risk group for contracting HIV.

 

[calamity]

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It's all a matter of taste. Just because you don't like broccoli, doesn't mean there aren't others who do. And that desire/taste can run with any combinations of partners, including women penetrating men. Yes with the strap on, since I can practically hear your reply.

A vagina tastes much better than ass.

 

[calamity]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

Not exactly sure what your point is here as this would be a universal issue, and not limited to any one demographic. So a straight married couple is also not 100% safe since neither can rely on the other's monogamy, by your statement above. However reality shows different. While cheating partners are great for stories and gossip, truth is not many run outside their committed relationships.

True, but straight couples are not spreading HIV at anywhere near the same rate as men who have sex with men. My wife can **** a 100 guys and I still would be at less risk of getting HIV from her as a gay man would if his male partner just ****s around with one, especially if I do not have anal sex.

 

[maquiscat]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

A vagina tastes much better than ass.

An opinion statement purely.

 

[legalimmigrant]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

Can you explain why you are so concerned about what other people are doing to each other?

I will gladly do that - right after somebody answers my question.

In this specific case, since the thread turned into a** f****** experience sharing place, it was only natural for me to ask.

 

[maquiscat]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

True, but straight couples are not spreading HIV at anywhere near the same rate as men who have sex with men. My wife can **** a 100 guys and I still would be at less risk of getting HIV from her as a gay man would if his male partner just ****s around with one, especially if I do not have anal sex.

Wow, no clue on odds and statistics. Actually at that point with those numbers you are at a much higher from your wife that the gay man whose partner just sleeps with only one other guy.

Of course there are always other factors which you don't bother to mention. Use of condoms. If you wife doesn't use them but the gay guy does that shots your risk up dramatically and his way down. Number of partners is always a factor. Prevalence of HIV in a given area. Your generalization and broad brush painting do you no good, and keeps you looking as uneducated and bias as you have always been.

 

[legalimmigrant]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

A vagina tastes much better than ass.

Hey, easy. I am about to have lunch. No, it's not fish, but still...

 

[maquiscat]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

Ok. But, what exactly are you arguing--that gay men are sexually promiscuous pigs too stupid to use condoms? If you say so...I certainly will not argue against that one.

A prime example of your broad brush painting. Men, gay or straight, tend to be more sexually promiscuous, especially if not in a dedicated relationship.

No. It shows clearly that men who have sex with men are the highest risk group for contracting HIV.

Given this as your original argument:

Considering you are the guy who constantly argues that men having sex with men has nothing to do with HIV transmission...I'll store your opinion where it belongs.

You are now changing the goalposts. Please show me anywhere someone denying that men having sex with men was the group,with the highest risk. But you didn't argue who was the highest risk group. You talked about what has to do with the transmission of HIV. And that would be the risky behaviors previously mention, which include people from all demographics. And while detection methods are now improved to put the risk at negligible, blood recipients were also at one time a risk group, as were and are drug users who share needles.

 

[maquiscat]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

I will gladly do that - right after somebody answers my question.

In this specific case, since the thread turned into a** f****** experience sharing place, it was only natural for me to ask.

Who shared their arse screwing experience here? Must of missed it.

 

[calamity]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

A prime example of your broad brush painting. Men, gay or straight, tend to be more sexually promiscuous, especially if not in a dedicated relationship.

Ok....so now imagine two men out on the prowl bumping uglies. No wonder they spread disease like wildfire.

Given this as your original argument:


You are now changing the goalposts. Please show me anywhere someone denying that men having sex with men was the group,with the highest risk. But you didn't argue who was the highest risk group. You talked about what has to do with the transmission of HIV. And that would be the risky behaviors previously mention, which include people from all demographics. And while detection methods are now improved to put the risk at negligible, blood recipients were also at one time a risk group, as were and are drug users who share needles.

If men having sex with men is the highest risk group for HIV transmission, then of course it is irrational to argue that men having sex with men has nothing to do with HIV transmission. Good grief.

Those other risk groups you mention are pretty far down the list....and very small numbers at that.

There is however a problem in the black community. But, that seems to be mostly due to a protein present in Blacks which whites do not have. Said protein makes blacks less likely to develop malaria but more likely to become infected with HIV.

Newfound genetic clue to HIV rate in blacks - SFGate

There is also a protein present in Caucasians which apparently leads to a statistically significant number of them to be immune to HIV. More research is probably needed on that one though.
The Evolving Genetics of HIV | Understanding Genetics

 

[maquiscat]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

Ok....so now imagine two men out on the prowl bumping uglies. No wonder they spread disease like wildfire.

Red herring. This has nothing to do with anything on this thread.

If men having sex with men is the highest risk group for HIV transmission, then of course it is irrational to argue that men having sex with men has nothing to do with HIV transmission. Good grief.

Those other risk groups you mention are pretty far down the list....and very small numbers at that.

There is however a problem in the black community. But, that seems to be mostly due to a protein present in Blacks which whites do not have. Said protein makes blacks less likely to develop malaria but more likely to become infected with HIV.

Newfound genetic clue to HIV rate in blacks - SFGate

There is also a protein present in Caucasians which apparently leads to a statistically significant number of them to be immune to HIV. More research is probably needed on that one though.
The Evolving Genetics of HIV | Understanding Genetics

You are mistaking risk groups for spreading vectors. Additionally, simply because of this supposed protein that whites develop AIDS less, does not necessarily mean they are not carriers and thus spreaders of HIV.

At this point, though, I am halting any responses to this sub thread as it is now too much off topic. Have the last word if you wish, or start a new thread if you wish to go further.

 

[calamity]

Re: The Transgender Programming of Children Is Child Abuse, Warns the American Colleg

Red herring. This has nothing to do with anything on this thread.

Someone decided to make it part of the thread.

You are mistaking risk groups for spreading vectors. Additionally, simply because of this supposed protein that whites develop AIDS less, does not necessarily mean they are not carriers and thus spreaders of HIV.

At this point, though, I am halting any responses to this sub thread as it is now too much off topic. Have the last word if you wish, or start a new thread if you wish to go further.

Read the articles. Whites are less likely to even become infected by HIV. It has nothing to do with them getting full blown AIDS. In fact, according to the article, whites are more likely to get AIDS than backs once infected due to the same genetic mutation.