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The Supreme Court issues its big rulings at the end of June. Today is the last day this year. Three big bad 6-3 rulings

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The court news isn't all bad. For example, when radical right-wing political forces gave them a case to let Republican state legislatures overturn democracy and ban any court from having oversight of their stealing elections, the court denied that. Good, we can keep some democracy.

But the most recent three big rulings show the dark money spending nearly $1 billion to corrupt the court getting what they paid for.

Affirmative Action, reversed, 6-3.

Student Loan Forgiveness, reversed, 6-3.

Civil rights for people with non-heterosexual orientations, revered, 6-3.

Of course, we could list dozens, hundreds more of these far-right versus legitimate Justices' decisions, the result of the corruption of the court.

Because ultimately, the quote likely made up from George Bush that the constitution is just a piece of paper - that it says basically nothing, but only what the court says it says - is basically true. We're seeing battle after battle lost in the Republican war on the constitution. All they needed was to put their people on the court.

We don't have a good answer, really. As this continues - what is a response? If democracy becomes unacceptably overturned, the theoretical response leads to a 'popular uprising', even violence, revolting against the attack on our democracy - an utterly impractical response. What history shows us is that it's entirely possible to simply convert a democracy to authoritarianism - a risk like we've never seen.

Yes, that statement is dramatic. Bold.

Hundreds of Republicans in Congress voting to reject votes for the president and overthrow democracy was dramatic.

Nearly all Republicans voting against impeachment and conviction of trump in two impeachments, removing the rule of law, was dramatic.

The pieces are in place for that risk. Over and over. 'We're one wrong election result away from a point of no return'. That's dramatic.

I'm not predicting any such thing. Biden defeating trump and being slightly ahead in the polls, trumps massive unpopularity outside Republicans, suggest there's opposition to it that is currently winning a close battle. But the risk is high. And the corruption entrenched, as today's rulings indicate.

 
I guess it's a matter of perspective if you view these rulings bad or not. What is radical about these 3 decisions you listed?
 
The hard core, extremist lefties didn't get the rulings they wanted, so immediately SCOTUS is corrupt. :rolleyes:

It is in the lefties view that SCOTUS should only rule the way they want, rather than on legal principals and the interpretation of the actual text of the US Constitution.
 
I’m just here for the tears.
Don't be too smug man, god help us if these progressive idiots ever get the SCOTUS in their political hands. They think its ok to trample on the first amendment to help whatever arbitrary " bad feelings" they believe are proper. How can they not see they are the ones trying to be fascist?
 
The court is going. to be awful upset when the Democrats finally get fed up enough to pull a Jackson.
 
Affirmative Action, reversed, 6-3.
Time will tell how this decision plays out across the country.
Student Loan Forgiveness, reversed, 6-3.
Should’ve been 9-0.

Biden doesn’t have authority to wave student debt. A point Nancy Pelosi, as House Speaker, noted when the president first announced his plan.
Civil rights for people with non-heterosexual orientations, revered, 6-3.
On the narrow, specific issue decided by the high court, I agree.

The business owner has made clear, that she has no issue with providing other services to gay couples that do not include her own thoughts/words as part of the creative process of building a custom wedding site.
 
Affirmative Action, reversed, 6-3.
Good. It was discrimination.

Student Loan Forgiveness, reversed, 6-3.
Good. It was overreach. Even Nutty Nancy said so:


Because ultimately, the quote likely made up from George Bush that the constitution is just a piece of paper
Yes. That quote was quite possibly made up

 
Don't be too smug man, god help us if these progressive idiots ever get the SCOTUS in their political hands. They think its ok to trample on the first amendment to help whatever arbitrary " bad feelings" they believe are proper. How can they not see they are the ones trying to be fascist?
Yup. What we have learned is that the left hates the 1st Amendment as much as it does the 2nd Amendment.
 
Specific to the third, it was a made up injury that didn't happen.
Sorry, don't follow. Are you saying the case was brought from a situation that didn't happen?
 
if democrats don’t pack the Court the next time they hold Congress and the Oval, they’re idiots.
I think they'd be idiots to do so. It would be unpopular and it would only open an arms race for any ensuing administration. Eventually, the courts would become watered down enough to become useless. Unless of course that is the endgame.
 
The court news isn't all bad. For example, when radical right-wing political forces gave them a case to let Republican state legislatures overturn democracy and ban any court from having oversight of their stealing elections, the court denied that. Good, we can keep some democracy.

But the most recent three big rulings show the dark money spending nearly $1 billion to corrupt the court getting what they paid for.

Affirmative Action, reversed, 6-3.

Student Loan Forgiveness, reversed, 6-3.

Civil rights for people with non-heterosexual orientations, revered, 6-3.

Of course, we could list dozens, hundreds more of these far-right versus legitimate Justices' decisions, the result of the corruption of the court.

Because ultimately, the quote likely made up from George Bush that the constitution is just a piece of paper - that it says basically nothing, but only what the court says it says - is basically true. We're seeing battle after battle lost in the Republican war on the constitution. All they needed was to put their people on the court.

We don't have a good answer, really. As this continues - what is a response? If democracy becomes unacceptably overturned, the theoretical response leads to a 'popular uprising', even violence, revolting against the attack on our democracy - an utterly impractical response. What history shows us is that it's entirely possible to simply convert a democracy to authoritarianism - a risk like we've never seen.

Yes, that statement is dramatic. Bold.

Hundreds of Republicans in Congress voting to reject votes for the president and overthrow democracy was dramatic.

Nearly all Republicans voting against impeachment and conviction of trump in two impeachments, removing the rule of law, was dramatic.

The pieces are in place for that risk. Over and over. 'We're one wrong election result away from a point of no return'. That's dramatic.

I'm not predicting any such thing. Biden defeating trump and being slightly ahead in the polls, trumps massive unpopularity outside Republicans, suggest there's opposition to it that is currently winning a close battle. But the risk is high. And the corruption entrenched, as today's rulings indicate.

I find the court refreshing and its rulings this week give me great pleasure.
 
if democrats don’t pack the Court the next time they hold Congress and the Oval, they’re idiots.
No they are not. They are true Americans UNLIKE those who want to pack the court.
 
I think they'd be idiots to do so. It would be unpopular and it would only open an arms race for any ensuing administration. Eventually, the courts would become watered down enough to become useless. Unless of course that is the endgame.
We have a court that just set aside equality for the LGBT community and took away women’s bodily autonomy.

Pack the Court.
 
We have a court that just set aside equality for the LGBT community and took away women’s bodily autonomy.

Pack the Court.
Negative and negative.

Again, packing the court because you don't get something you want would be unpopular. But by all means keep advocating for it.
 
The court news isn't all bad. For example, when radical right-wing political forces gave them a case to let Republican state legislatures overturn democracy and ban any court from having oversight of their stealing elections, the court denied that. Good, we can keep some democracy.

But the most recent three big rulings show the dark money spending nearly $1 billion to corrupt the court getting what they paid for.

Affirmative Action, reversed, 6-3.

Student Loan Forgiveness, reversed, 6-3.

Civil rights for people with non-heterosexual orientations, revered, 6-3.

Of course, we could list dozens, hundreds more of these far-right versus legitimate Justices' decisions, the result of the corruption of the court.
Not sure if this is a massive crisis. Definitely dont think its due to ‘corruption’.

Affirmative action reversal might not end up badly - this has been banned in California and Michigan for a while, and it hasn’t seemed to have any terrible effect.
But time will tell.

Student loans - I dont think its a terrible decision - not sure if that path to forgiveness made much sense, and its not a real equitable way to do things. I think the idea and case was advanced to make the GOP look bad, and its probably going to have that effect.

Civil rights - not sure that forcing people to do services for you is something either party really wants, and since sexual orientation isnt a protected class, its hard to say that the ruling was that terrible.
 
Sorry, don't follow. Are you saying the case was brought from a situation that didn't happen?

Yes. Nobody was asking Creative to make a pro-gay website, nor does Colorado require someone to do that, for the same reason Colorado law wouldn't require the Jewish owner of a custom t-shirt shop to make shirts that say "Hitler did nothing wrong" just because someone asked for one.

Colorado law says you can't sell a product to someone and then deny the same product to another customer on the basis of their race/gender/ethnicity/sexual orientation and so on.
 
Yes. Nobody was asking Creative to make a pro-gay website, nor does Colorado require someone to do that, for the same reason Colorado law wouldn't require the Jewish owner of a custom t-shirt shop to make shirts that say "Hitler did nothing wrong" just because someone asked for one.

Colorado law says you can't sell a product to someone and then deny the same product to another customer on the basis of their race/gender/ethnicity/sexual orientation and so on.
Well, then we gained legal clarity. Free speech trumps leftist whim.
 
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