The slurs and texts of Ahmaud Arbery’s killers reflect the persistent racism in our society

[HangLow]

Read this entire article, if you dare, to see just how casually the n-word is still used “behind closed doors” even today.

“In January 2019, Travis McMichael was making plans to meet a friend identified as N.J. at a Cracker Barrel. When N.J. arrived first at the restaurant, he texted McMichael that a number of Black people were there. McMichael texted back: “Need to change the name from Cracker Barrel to [n-word] Bucket.”

Two months later, Travis McMichael was texting with someone else, identified only as H.B., who complained that while bar-hopping the previous evening he had encountered too many Black people. “Zero [n-word] work with me,” McMichael replied, apparently referring to his job. “They ruin everything. That’s why I love what I do now. Not a [n-word] in sight.”

Another text exchange involving Travis McMichael included a photo of a disabled man wearing a T-shirt that said “At least I’m not a [n-word].” And in his social media accounts, FBI analysts — who unearthed this cornucopia of racism — found a video clip of a Black child dancing that had been overdubbed with a racist song titled “Alabama [n-word].”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/17/arbery-killers-federal-trial-shocking-racism-text-messages/

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[PeacefulWarrior]

the successful outcomes of those two cases are owed entirely to the impact of the #BLM movement of 2020. More and more, decent white Americans are waking up to the realities of racism (and how it manifests) in our society

LOL.

Oh MY.

IMO, decent hard working White people are not "on board" with BLM at all...DERP. We all watched as downtowns coast to coast were destroyed and looted by these criminals. We see their adopted "heroes" like George Floyd, Mike Brown, Dumb Duante and Jacob Blake. Sweet ZEUS what a "culture" this is.



"BLM" is more for fatherless punks IMO, young people with no strong positive role models. Rioting is a great opportunity to go out and get some free stuff and behave like a hooligan, and thats behavior that fatherless punks think is A-OK from what I have seen. These types are usually very angry at society, they have a big chip on their shoulder from the get go. They weren't raised properly, they probably grew up in poverty so they are ticked off in many cases, but instead of rightfully placing responsibility for their lot in life with their parent(s) and immediate family and THEMSELVES, they start to believe that they are "owed" something, that they are in the dire straights they are in because of the loathed and evil European White Male. They want to strike out and "get even" with society. This is my impression of the type of punk to get drawn into something like BLM.

Nobody wants Burning, Looting, Murdering (BLM). Well, criminals want it. Nobody else does though.

 

[watsup]

LOL.

Oh MY.

IMO, decent hard working White people are not "on board" with BLM at all...DERP. We all watched as downtowns coast to coast were destroyed and looted by these criminals. We see their adopted "heroes" like George Floyd, Mike Brown, Dumb Duante and Jacob Blake. Sweet ZEUS what a "culture" this is.



"BLM" is more for fatherless punks IMO, young people with no strong positive role models. Rioting is a great opportunity to go out and get some free stuff and behave like a hooligan, and thats behavior that fatherless punks think is A-OK from what I have seen. These types are usually very angry at society, they have a big chip on their shoulder from the get go. They weren't raised properly, they probably grew up in poverty so they are ticked off in many cases, but instead of rightfully placing responsibility for their lot in life with their parent(s) and immediate family and THEMSELVES, they start to believe that they are "owed" something, that they are in the dire straights they are in because of the loathed and evil European White Male. They want to strike out and "get even" with society. This is my impression of the type of punk to get drawn into something like BLM.

Nobody wants Burning, Looting, Murdering (BLM). Well, criminals want it. Nobody else does though.

Right wing racism falsehoods rant.

 

[ultmd]

IMO, decent hard working White people are not "on board" with BLM at all...DERP.

....of course that's your opinion.

OF COURSE it is.

White-grievance is as predictable as it is moronic.

We all watched as downtowns coast to coast were destroyed and looted by these criminals.

"We" = "We white-grievance types and no one else".

Remember, I said "decent hard-working white people", @PeacefulWarrior. But that's ok, your effort to exclude yourself (and others like you) from that distinction, is duly noted.

The fact that people like you are STILL deluded about what you ACTUALLY saw in the summer of 2020.....is quite revealing.

After all, we (intelligent, informed Americans) know for FACT that almost ALL of the violence, vandalism, arson, etc. of that summer was INCITED BY WHITE NATIONALISTS. And WE all know this, because TRUMP'S OWN FBI and DHS both publicly acknowledged that FACT. The "criminals" you're referring to......were YOUR PEOPLE.

It's only people like you who still repeat LIES and discredited Conspiracy Theories, I'm afraid.

We see their adopted "heroes" like George Floyd, Mike Brown, Dumb Duante and Jacob Blake. Sweet ZEUS what a "culture" this is.

.....the ignorant, bigoted rantings of another white-nationalist ideologue.

At least we now know, for sure, exactly who/what you are.

"BLM" is more for fatherless punks IMO, young people with no strong positive role models.

Key phrase, above: "IMO".

Of course that's your opinion.

Your OPINION reflects your ignorance and your white-nationalist/white-grievance ideology.

These types are usually very angry at society, they have a big chip on their shoulder from the get go. They weren't raised properly, they probably grew up in poverty so they are ticked off in many cases, but instead of rightfully placing responsibility for their lot in life with their parent(s) and immediate family and THEMSELVES, they start to believe that they are "owed" something,

This is ALL 100% TRUE!

Your problem is that you're actually talking about YOUR PEOPLE (i.e. white-grievance/white-nationalist types). You just don't know it, because you're a white-grievance/white-nationalist type who has been brainwashed by your FAUXNEWS sources.

But the FACTS are the FACTS. And the FACT is that virtually all of violence, arson, vandalism, etc. of 2020 was incited by WHITE-NATIONALISTS (i.e. the people you defend).

that they are in the dire straights they are in because of the loathed and evil [black/brown people]. They want to strike out and "get even" with society.

FIFY. The data does not lie. White-grievance types are the people you're talking about.

You're welcome.

But there is no doubt that people like you blame everything on minorities...even if it requires willful ignorance and/or dishonesty to do so.

This is my impression of the type of punk to get drawn into something like BLM.

That's because you are ignorant of the basic FACTS.

And, my bet is that you're ok with that, because (like most white-grievance types) you NEED to have your feelings and biases re-affirmed, at any/all cost.

Nobody wants Burning, Looting, Murdering (BLM). Well, criminals want it. Nobody else does though.

Case in point.

Ignorance and/or dishonesty at any/all cost. That's white-grievance.

 

[ultmd]

Rioting is a great opportunity to go out and get some free stuff and behave like a hooligan, and thats behavior that fatherless punks think is A-OK from what I have seen.

.....the level of "moron" just keeps rising in your remarks.

So..... does the above also explain (in your perpetually aggrieved, white-nationalist OPINION) why:

• - ALMOST EVERY incident involving violence, arson, vandalism, etc.....from the #BLM marches in the Summer of 2020....was incited by the WHITE NATIONALIST TYPES who (according to the FBI and DHS engaged in an orchestrated campaign to infiltrate #BLM marches FROM THE REAR for the sole purpose of inciting VANDALISM, provoking VIOLENCE, and committing ARSON)....rather than #BLM supporters?
• -in FACT, 97% (or 96%....or 95%.....or 93%...according to multiple studies) of ALL #BLM marches in 2020 were 100% NON-VIOLENT?

Here are more links,..to more leaked DHS and FBI documents from 2020.....for you to try to rationalize/deny:

• DHS: White Supremacists are Greatest Terrorist Threat

“This draft document...consistent with earlier intelligence reports from DHS, the FBI, and other law enforcement sources (confirms) that the most significant terror-related threat facing the US today comes from violent extremists who are motivated by white supremacy and other far-right ideological causes"
DHS DOCUMENT:

• Report: Police Knew Far-Right Extremists Were the Real Threat at Protests, not "Antifa"

Michael German, former FBI Agent specializing in counter-terrorism: "Far-right extremists have been targeting and killing law enforcement, not to mention members of the general public, for generations....While antifa has been a right-wing boogeyman for years, the administration’s rhetoric ramped up in late May.
Yet the leaked materials show that on May 29, two days before Trump tweeted that antifa would be labeled a terrorist organization and Barr issued his DOJ statement, the president’s own DHS analysts issued an open source intelligence report detailing how a white supremacist channel on Telegram, an encrypted messaging service, was encouraging followers to capitalize on the unrest by targeting the police with Molotov cocktails and firearms. “The use of firearms greatly influences the scale and intensity of these events,” a source in the group, titled “National Accelerationist Revival,” wrote on May 27, advising followers to break police lines “with cocktails, chainsaws, and firearms.” At the time, DHS reported, the group included more than 3,400 subscribers. “Looting and shoplifting are both cool and whites should be doing it way more,” the source went on. “When the laws no longer benefit you, break them for personal gain. If you don’t feel like buying something, steal it. If you don’t feel like driving slow, drive fast. If you don’t like someone, hurt them.
“We ought to revel in the destruction of the police state,” they wrote. “It is just as necessary to break down the police state and the system of control as it is to spread racial hatred.”

• https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6981476-May-30-2020-DHS-Report-on-Floyd-Protests.html

“users of a white supremacist extremist Telegram channel will attempt to incite followers to engage in violence and start the ‘boogaloo’ — a term used by some violent extremists to refer to the start of a second Civil War — by shooting in a crowd.”

 

[ultmd]

And....just one more....just for good measure (and more clarity):

• DHS DOCUMENT: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6982427-June-1-DHS-George-Floyd-Summary-of-Events-in.html

“A series of Telegram accounts linked to a wider network of paramilitary far-right extremists have indicated that ongoing disturbances are spreading America’s police forces thin, making this the ideal time to strike with a strategic attack.
Twitter recently removed a fake antifa account “created by a known white supremacist group” that had issued a call to violence...the account...is an example of white supremacists seeking to inflame tensions in the United States."

 

[ultmd]

Disagree*

Certainly your right to do so.

Of course, your OPINION is based upon ignorance and ideology. Mine is based upon facts and knowledge/understanding/familiarity with the subject matter in question.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Of course, your OPINION is based upon ignorance and ideology. Mine is based upon facts and knowledge/understanding

I have no doubt: that is how you see it.

You're big on name calling fella. Impressive.

Have a great one!

 

[ultmd]

I have no doubt: that is how you see it.

You're big on name calling fella. Impressive.

Have a great one!

Oh, stop whining.

I read your remarks, and then documented that (contrary to your feelings and attestations):

• Between 93% and 97% of ALL #BLM protest marches in the summer of 2020.....were ENTIRELY peaceful
• White Nationalists (and NOT #BLM) were responsible for inciting almost every major incident of rioting, vandalism, arson, etc.....that took place at the #BLM marches in the summer of 2020.
• I documented the above FACTS with multiple links and quotes from TRUMP'S own FBI and DHA.

The above are all well-known, thoroughly-documented FACTS (to people who pay attention to REAL news), @PeacefulWarrior

I have also detailed how:

• your OPINIONS about #BLM (which you presented as fact in the form of declarative statements).....are ignorant and seemingly based upon your FEELINGS and your ideology, rather than any actual FACTS (of which, you've offered NONE).
• your laundry list of thinly-veiled cultural/racial grievances are the musings of someone with a standard white-grievance type (who, for some odd reason, uses JFK as his avatar rather than Marjorie Taylor Green)

That's not name-calling. It's truth-calling. If you honestly didn't know any of the above.....you should just thank me for dispelling you of some of your delusions about #BLM and the Summer of 2020.

But for Pete's sake, stop whining about it. If you're proud of your ideology, own it (and don't hide behind JFK to do it)

 

[Mason66]

You said, "You just said so yourself. You think blacks have enhanced rights and privileges. You want black privilege."

That's a very stupid point, so dumb I cannot believe it's not satire. White people have the same "rights" and "privileges" as blacks to call a black person a "n****r." And then the rest of society has the "right and privilege" to note that when white people use that word, it's an almost perfect indicator the person using it in a derogatory manner is a racist piece of shit.

In this case, the only thing that actually explains what the Barney Fife wannabes did that day - chase a black man around with a truck and a car then shooting him dead for the crime of "running while black in a white neighborhood" - is the men were racists. Now we see the texts of them using the n word to refer to blacks in a derogatory manner and of course no one not a moron is surprised at all. That is what racists do.

If a black person calls an Asian a racist slur, are they a racist piece of shit?

 

[JasperL]

If a black person calls an Asian a racist slur, are they a racist piece of shit?

Why are you asking me this dumb question that has nothing to do with my comment or the OP or anything I've addressed?

If you have a point, make it.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

If you're proud of your ideology, own it

Damn right!!! I am a Proud Liberal Socialist!!

Nothing at all to be ashamed of there, I also am a very proud European White Male! My people and I have made missteps along the way, sure, but as they say "If a guy isnt messing anything up, that just means he isnt doing anything!"

My people have a Proud Heritage and have probably contributed more to science and technological advancement than any other demographic to ever walk the face of the earth!! That aint no small potatoes Ult, would a little "thank you for all you have done" be so much to ask?

 

[bomberfox]

Personally, I would prefer my racists be open and honest about it, so not in private conversation. If thats how you feel, holler it out on a street corner when you see me.

As Kevin Harts crazy uncle put it, "Say it wit yo chest."

What Im not good with is people smiling in my face and calling me that behind my back.....then our "relationship", insofar as it goes, is based on something false.

Its a depends kinda thing. When klukkers get confident people die.

 

[Mason66]

Why are you asking me this dumb question that has nothing to do with my comment or the OP or anything I've addressed?

If you have a point, make it.

Did you not say "when white people use that word, it's an almost perfect indicator the person using it in a derogatory manner is a racist piece of shit."

Does that only apply to whites or do you think a black is a racist piece of shit if they use a racial slur against another race?

 

[ultmd]

Damn right!!! I am a Proud Liberal Socialist!!

.....not a lot of white-nationalist/white-supremacist types call themselves "liberal socialists" and represent themselves with JFK avatars.

Heck, the liberal socialist movement (which is actually a thing)....barely exists in the U.S. Are you sure you're not a European pretending to be American?

Nothing at all to be ashamed of there, I also am a very proud European White Male!

Well, we agree, here. You're a white-nationalist.

That's been pretty obvious for a while now.

My people have a Proud Heritage and have probably contributed more to science and technological advancement than any other demographic to ever walk the face of the earth!!

"Your people", huh? Well, one thing seem clear to me. You can try to claim those people as "your people" all you want, but they wouldn't be trying to claim people like you or their "team" in any "Race Draft", my white-grievance friend.

We can certainly talk about what "your people" have done (and what people like you may THINK they have done).... but I doubt you are equipped for such a discussion.

Any claims of "white European" supremacy by white-grievance/nationalist types are typically always belied by their own obvious LACK of supremacy.

Tell me, @PeacefulWarrior....do you think Darwin would point to you as one of "his people"?

That aint no small potatoes Ult, would a little "thank you for all you have done" be so much to ask?

And we can now reliably add "White-supremacist" to your "proud White European Male!" ideology.

There is very little that is more transparently pathetic (and, even worthy of mockery) than seeing utterly average (at best) white-grievance/white-nationalist types cling to achievements of random white people in history (who actually accomplished something) as proof of their own supremacy.

The only think you white-grievance types share with "those people" who may have accomplished great things....is that someone of "white European" lineage may have donated his sperm to your birth mothers. You good people are from the OTHER side of "Your people's" family tree. The side that is utterly average and anything BUT superior.

Your remarks serve as yet another illustration of how Ignorance and White-nationalism/White-supremacy.....are functionally inseparable terms.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

.....not a lot of white-nationalist/white-supremacist types call themselves "liberal socialists" and represent themselves with JFK avatars.

Heck, the liberal socialist movement (which is actually a thing)....barely exists in the U.S. Are you sure you're not a European pretending to be American?

Well, we agree, here. You're a white-nationalist.

That's been pretty obvious for a while now.

"Your people", huh? Well, one thing seem clear to me. You can try to claim those people as "your people" all you want, but they wouldn't be trying to claim people like you or their "team" in any "Race Draft", my white-grievance friend.

We can certainly talk about what "your people" have done (and what people like you may THINK they have done).... but I doubt you are equipped for such a discussion.

Any claims of "white European" supremacy by white-grievance/nationalist types are typically always belied by their own obvious LACK of supremacy.

Tell me, @PeacefulWarrior....do you think Darwin would point to you as one of "his people"?


And we can now reliably add "White-supremacist" to your "proud White European Male!" ideology.

There is very little that is more transparently pathetic (and, even worthy of mockery) than seeing utterly average (at best) white-grievance/white-nationalist types cling to achievements of random white people in history (who actually accomplished something) as proof of their own supremacy.

The only think you white-grievance types share with "those people" who may have accomplished great things....is that someone of "white European" lineage may have donated his sperm to your birth mothers. You good people are from the OTHER side of "Your people's" family tree. The side that is utterly average and anything BUT superior.

Your remarks serve as yet another illustration of how Ignorance and White-nationalism/White-supremacy.....are functionally inseparable terms.

TL...DR....but OK*

 

[HenryChinaski]

Apparently yes. I found the 4-skins and a bunch of Oi playlists on Spotify.

 

[ultmd]

TL...DR....but OK*

Of course you read it, my white-grievance/white-supremacist friend.

Of COURSE you did.

You just can't rebut it.

I just have to repeat your penultimate catch-phrase, one more time......"Your people", huh? That one is going to stay with me for a while, I think.

But, OK* (wink, wink).

I think we're done.