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The science says

Paradoxical said:
You said they got no more for treating those they claimed had Covid. I proved you wrong.
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If they didn’t bother to treat the unvaccinated covidiots they wouldn’t need more money.
 
Good4Nothin said:
Public health officials pushed covid vaccines for children between 6 months and 5 years of age. What did the science say? No statistically significant evidence that the Pfizer vaccine works for this age group. Moderna has 4% efficacy.

No wonder only 3% of children under age 5 got the vaccines.

And should we all get covid boosters every year? Well ...



So that's an example of what the science says currently.

sensiblemed.substack.com

Before We Push the New Omicron Vaccine, Let’s See The Data

The White House is pushing Americans hard to take a novel Covid vaccine before the studies are complete.
sensiblemed.substack.com sensiblemed.substack.com
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Why do you guys care so much. Don't get the boosters.
 
Fledermaus said:
I have had the original two shot regimen with a single booster.

Zero side effects.
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Same here. No biggy. I will get the second booster here in a month or so when I my six months is up as well.
 
Here are details about the efficacy of each vaccine:


Pfizer: Following a third dose, children 5 and under elicited a strong immune response, and efficacy was 80.3% in preventing symptomatic infection. These preliminary findings were based on 10 symptomatic cases identified seven days after the third dose. The immune response among children under 5 (measured one month after the third dose) compared favorably to that of two doses among 16- to 25-year-olds. It’s important to note that parts of the studies took place before the Omicron variant was predominant.


Moderna: Interim results show that the vaccine was 51% effective against symptomatic infection among children ages 6 months to 2 years, and 37% effective among those 2 to 5 years. In both age groups, two doses compared favorably to the immune response adults ages 18 to 25 had after two doses. The studies were conducted during the Omicron wave.

www.yalemedicine.org

COVID-19 Vaccines for Kids Under 5: What Parents Need To Know

Yale Medicine physicians discuss the authorization of COVID-19 vaccines for children under age 5.
www.yalemedicine.org www.yalemedicine.org
 
Bodi said:
Why do you guys care so much. Don't get the boosters.
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Here’s the thing that GFN forgets: the vaccines have nearly no significant side effects in young children. I am not interested in boogeyman side effects that might appear in 50 years. And rarely young children get very sick or die from covid. What if the chance that your child was killed or became very sick by a preventable disease was 1 in 10,000 and all you had to do was give him a glass of water to prevent it. Would you do it?
 
Ethel2 said:
Here’s the thing that GFN forgets: the vaccines have nearly no significant side effects in young children. I am not interested in boogeyman side effects that might appear in 50 years. And rarely young children get very sick or die from covid. What if the chance that your child was killed or became very sick by a preventable disease was 1 in 10,000 and all you had to do was give him a glass of water to prevent it. Would you do it?
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My oldest daughter almost died of an adverse reaction to the MMR and I am still pro-vaccines.
 
Bodi said:
My oldest daughter almost died of an adverse reaction to the MMR and I am still pro-vaccines.
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Sorry to hear about your daughter. Hopefully she made a full recovery.
Regarding the covid vaccines: as far as I know there has been only one death from the mRNA vaccines. I don’t understand why anyone would take ANY chances at all with a bad case of covid in their child.given the safety margin of the mRNA vaccines. It’s mind boggling.
And dumb.
 
jaeger19 said:
Um no I did not.
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Getting useless to try to debate with a progresdive like you. I have no time or desire to scroll back through all your posts but you did say that.
 
Paradoxical said:
Getting useless to try to debate with a progresdive like you. I have no time or desire to scroll back through all your posts but you did say that.
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Nope.
We have played this game before.
You always lose. Please detail any post of my that is not conservative and why.

You have tried and the best you have is " but but you don't get on your knees and kiss trumps....ring".
 
Ethel2 said:
Here’s the thing that GFN forgets: the vaccines have nearly no significant side effects in young children. I am not interested in boogeyman side effects that might appear in 50 years. And rarely young children get very sick or die from covid. What if the chance that your child was killed or became very sick by a preventable disease was 1 in 10,000 and all you had to do was give him a glass of water to prevent it. Would you do it?
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There is almost no chance your normal healthy child will get seriously sick from covid. The chance of long term side effects is unknown. I would take the known almost zero chance over the unknown chance.

We already do know the vaccines can damage the heart in some young men. That would be enough for me, if I were a parent, to not trust the vaccines for my children.

And we know that most parents feel the same way I would, because only a small minority are getting their children covid vaccines.
 
jaeger19 said:
Nope.
We have played this game before.
You always lose. Please detail any post of my that is not conservative and why.

You have tried and the best you have is " but but you don't get on your knees and kiss trumps....ring".
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I have outed you in several of your posts as posting like a progressive would. there is no discernable difference between your posts and those of thje resident far left wingers here,
Mongidig said:
MAGA love traitors like Trump.
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Oh, someone who believes (along with millions of others) that there were so many anomalies in the election, that it was rigged is now a traitor/

How do you like inflation, high gas prices, the war in Ukraine, China threatening, begging for oil, malaise, and anger?
 
I noticed the flu was back in the news lol. It had been in the witness protection program past 2 years.
 
Paradoxical said:
Oh, someone who believes (along with millions of others) that there were so many anomalies in the election, that it was rigged is now a traitor/
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The "millions of others" are Trumps vulnerable pee brained cult members. Trump is responsible for the attack on the Capital. He attacked his own country.
 
Mongidig said:
The "millions of others" are Trumps vulnerable pee brained cult members. Trump is responsible for the attack on the Capital. He attacked his own country.
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Here we go with the usual demonization when you have no facts <sigh>

Trumpers, Trumtards, cult, fascists, your daddy wears suspenders type stuff.
 
Paradoxical said:
Here we go with the usual demonization when you have no facts <sigh>

Trumpers, Trumtards, cult, fascists, your daddy wears suspenders type stuff.
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It's not me with a target on my back.
 
jaeger19 said:
Nope.
We have played this game before.
You always lose. Please detail any post of my that is not conservative and why.

You have tried and the best you have is " but but you don't get on your knees and kiss trumps....ring".
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I had a little extra time so I scrolled back to your postings. I posted in post 500 as follows:

Paradoxical said:
I am beginning to doubt your doctor credentials and you should know that they were looking to find Covid because then they got paid more and there were many false positives. Plus, big Pharm ropes them in for the several booster shots afterwards.
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......and your response was THIS!

" they got paid more" .
Who are you talking about?
You don't even know do you.

And by the way..if a person has covid or just had covid ..you don't give them a booster.

You implied that they were NO paid more with your comment saying:
" they got paid more" .
Who are you talking about?
You don't even know do you.

Any idiot would read your post refuting my statement that they were paid more with YOU asking what I am talking about and that "You don't even know" as contesting this truth that the doctors and hospitals were paid more for Covid patients *(and therefore had a vested interest in getting more Covid positives)

WHY did you make me go through this instead of admitting you were and are wrong?
 
Mongidig said:
It's not me with a target on my back.
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I agree that conservatives have a target on their back from the FBI, DOJ, and crazed leftists. Is this supposed to be some sort of revelation to the left?
 
Paradoxical said:
I have outed you in several of your posts as posting like a progressive would. there is no discernable difference between your posts and those of thje resident far left wingers here,

Oh, someone who believes (along with millions of others) that there were so many anomalies in the election, that it was rigged is now a traitor/

How do you like inflation, high gas prices, the war in Ukraine, China threatening, begging for oil, malaise, and anger?
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No..you got flummoxed when you tried.
But again you can explain why its a progressive view that the us should conserve its oil supply and invest in renewable alternatives such that the us remains an economic and military superpower?
Please explain how conserving our natural resources and becoming independent from other countries energy by being the first nation to develop renewable energy is not conservative.

Please explain how your view.. which is that the US should drill baby drill and export its natural resources as quickly as possible so that it becomes dependent on other countries for energy is a "conservative".. approach.
I could almost see the look of confusion on your face when after you said "we have oil for 100 years".. I said "what then". It never occurred to you to look to the future did it.?

As far as the right wingers who think that the election was rigged? I defy you anywhere to find a post where I called those right wingers "traitors".
"Ignorant"? Yes
Indoctrinated? Yes.

But think on this. Conservatives believe in limited government. Which means that government should be answerable to the rule of law. Any power needs to have checks and balances. Any government official that refuses to acknowledge the results of a US election so that they can remain in power... needs to have his/her claims checked.. and if no evidence found.. dismissed. Otherwise, tyranny can result.
When we have another election and Biden loses? Does he get to claim without evidence that the 'election was rigged". Does he get to stay in office if his followers squack loud enough and riot?
Why or why not?

AS far as the rest? Inflation etc.

Well.. as a conservative.. I don;t really see the government as the major creator and thus not the major fixer of the countries problems.
ITs hard to claim you want small government.. when you are always expecting the the President to fix your problems.
 
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