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The Round Up of Illegals Begins

Please explain how a person becomes illegal by following the law.

If they are working and paying taxes they most likely have forged government documents and have committed a felony. Please.
Just because they are sneaky and managed to avoid being caught does no make them good people. Sorry but there are 10's of millions of good decent people out there waiting patiently to enter our country legally. It is time to start letting them in and throwing the criminals out.
 
So using taxpayer money to decrease the tax base... yea that is a great tactic!

So I'm guessing the government should ignore it's own laws because of their own greed according to you.
 
Arresting people who are following the law and actually working---Trump making America Great Again.

All in round up were here illegally a crime in itself! And most if not all were felons
 
“Remember when deporting illegal aliens was a good thing?”


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Once deportations become commonplace, most will self-deport. Something like 75% self-deported during Eisenhower’s Operation Wetback.
 
Trespassing, identity forging, procuring employment illegally .. all of these are serious crimes, including felonies.

Some have sympathy for them, because they had it tough in their homeland. Others have sympathy for American citizens harmed by illegal alien behavior.

Obama deported a ton of illegal aliens, because it was his duty.

Trump is doing the same.

I'm not aware that the two use differing methods .. so I wonder about the media conjuring up some fake news again.

Regardless, some Americans want the illegal aliens to have amnesty. Some Americans want them gone. The law says they should be gone. That's 2 against 1 in favor of they should be gone, with one of those favoring they should be gone being the one that really matters.

Illegal aliens are committing criminal behavior. They need to be searched out and apprehended like any criminal.

How low enforcement finds them is law enforcement's business. Typically, when any crime is committed, suspects get sought out, questioned, and then when all is found to be in order, released. When all is not in order, they're arrested.

This is normal.

Suspects are sought out who fit the description. Not that many innocent people fit the description -- appearance that matches, can't speak English but barely if at all, seen in the area, acting suspiciously (hanging out at Home Depot or on a "strategic" street corner in bunches, frequenting sweatshops, frequenting minimum wage-violating employers, frequenting companies with historic e-verify violations of hiring illegal aliens, and the typical like), etc. -- so there won't be but a relative few false detaining, probably a typical average amount in detective work.

The reason it's getting so much attention is because people with political interests have attached the illegal aliens to their political ideology.

But we can't let political ideology stand in the way of justice for all, justice for American citizens, and justice dispensed for criminals.

Ideology is no excuse of a crime, and it is no excuse of the law.
 
Liberals on ICE agents enforcing the law:

These people have a right to be here!

Liberals on rights:

Rights come from the government.


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All in round up were here illegally a crime in itself! And most if not all were felons

it' not just illegals...so, you can divest yourself of that falsehood. Or, should I say alternative fact?

How many legal immigrants are we deporting? - LA Times

From last October through July, immigration judges granted just 43% of the deportation orders the government sought, according to records obtained by the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse at Syracuse University — down from 70% in 2011. Another TRAC report found that ICE has failed to focus on serious criminals, despite promising to do so in 2014. Only half of the immigrants that ICE asked local law enforcement to detain late last year had any criminal conviction; the most common offenses were DUIs, assault and selling marijuana.
 
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Wtf? This is your first post:




You are such an insanely dishonest person. You sit there and pretend you don't support the rounding up of illegals when you just said it's the only option and you are cheering it on. Jesus christ, not a sliver of integrity.

How are those cherries you're picking?
 
A Texas illegal woman just sentenced to 8 years for voting. Send this message to CA illegals now.
 
They are not enforcing the law. They are illegally stopping people of color on the street and asking them for ID.

I anticipate seeing another court battle Trump will lose. He can win, but, I suspect you will not like what he has to do to win---stop everyone and ask for ID.

I didn't see that in the article so you must have heard that someplace else, do you have a link?
 
Those domestic enemies who attack constitutional principles, letter and spirit, by way of legislation? Those who take the country to war under fraud? Those who torture in violation of 18USC2441d?

Back in propaganda row and fact free neverland?

Had you pointed your finger at the baker crushing bigots, we might have found a basis....
 
But...but...if a significant number of illegals are rounded up or flee back to their own countries how in the heck will Democrats get elected again especially in 2020 ?
 
If the government truly wanted to round up all the illegals, they would not be that difficult to find, most pay both Social security and income tax withholding,
yet cannot claim benefits or file a tax return. The Government does not mind the undocumented revenue.
 
It is my understanding that they are going for the 960,000 illegals that already had deportation orders under Obama that were never deported. Like Guadalupe Garcia de Rayos, who was convicted of a felony eight years ago, identity theft where she served time. There was a deportation order on her since 2013 but Obama did not uphold the laws on immigration. Instead she was told to check in with ICE every 6 months.
 
It is my understanding that they are going for the 960,000 illegals that already had deportation orders under Obama that were never deported. Like Guadalupe Garcia de Rayos, who was convicted of a felony eight years ago, identity theft where she served time. There was a deportation order on her since 2013 but Obama did not uphold the laws on immigration. Instead she was told to check in with ICE every 6 months.

Like millions of others....who in turn voted for Hillary etc for "protection"

It's a shame so many misguided idiots are unaware of what they stand for in going against the first President in ages that actually believes in the law of the land. Ironic.

Someone's taught all these snowflakes that America is bad...and Immigrants will fix it.....saddest of all is they bought it hook, line and sinker.
 
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Like millions of others....who in turn voted for Hillary etc for "protection"

It's a shame so many misguided idiots are unaware of what they stand for in going against the first President in ages that actually believes in the law of the land. Ironic.

Someone's taught all these snowflakes that America is bad...and Immigrants will fix it.....saddest of all is they bought it hook, line and sinker.

I see we're still pimping the "millions of illegals voted" lie.
 
Arresting people who are following the law and actually working---Trump making America Great Again.

Who are you talking about being arrested even though they did nothing illegal?
 
Back in propaganda row and fact free neverland?

Had you pointed your finger at the baker crushing bigots, we might have found a basis....

I'm not familiar with baker crushing, so you lost me there.

However it is a fact that Habeas Corpus has been suspended effectively, and it is a fact that when FBI invokes WOT status, national security as they call it, the 4th Amendment is violated by NSL. Those are facts. Better check which land you are in.:mrgreen:
 
There is no right for the government to stop people on the street to ask for ID for no reason except that they look Mexican and live or work in a Mexican area. The courts will squash this faster than they did the travel ban. :lol:

They are asking for ID because they are looking for specific illegals, those that have been arrested and/or convicted of a crime, besides the crime of being here illegally in the first place.

CNN reported this (I also read the number "rounded up" was the same on other sites)

In Los Angeles, ICE said Friday that it had arrested about 160 people from a dozen countries during a five-day, five-county operation aimed at undocumented criminals, immigration fugitives and people who re-entered the United States illegally after deportation.
About 150 of the suspects have criminal histories, including felony convictions for serious or violent offenses, according to an ICE statement. There were 10 people with no criminal history but five had orders of removal or had been previously deported.
The ICE statement said the arrests were part of what it called a regular "enforcement surge." It denied reports about ICE checkpoints and random sweeps, calling them "false, dangerous, and irresponsible."
"These reports create panic and put communities and law enforcement personnel in unnecessary danger," the statement said.
Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti issued a statement Friday night asking ICE for "greater transparency about ongoing operations" within the city.
ACLU Texas Executive Director Terri Burke told CNN that "raids" had been happening in Austin "the last few nights."
"It is not unlike some of the things Obama did, but it's ramped up and worse," Burke said.
 
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