The Presidential Wheel Turns

[Mason66]

It is amusing to see the right 'suddenly' discover bad former Presidents get bumps in popularity after they leave office. I can see how BushII holds onto the hope history will judge him 'better'. He sees Richard Nixon's example. A man hounded from office, who faced CONVICTION if impeached and it all played out in a very public way in his last years something of a liked man.

I see it this way, as long as a crummy, even criminal former President stills still, stays quiet, and doesn't stir the pot- 'history' rehabilitates his image. The nation in general WANTS former Presidents to be honored men, we tend to 'forget' what made him unpopular in Office and only recall whatever he did and has continued to do as worthy of any notice. We tend to honor the Office and that helps unpopular Presidents after they leave office.

Clinton for example.

 

[Mason66]

Let's examine this just a bit:

Last four Republican Presidents - Ford, Reagan, Bush 1, Bush 2 - can you cite any references where they left office and slagged their successor in office or criticized his policies while he was still in office?

Last two Democrat President in that same time period - Carter, Clinton - I could cite dozens if not hundreds of occasions where they slagged their successor in office and criticized their policies while they were still in office.

I will credit that Carter and Clinton are equal opportunity slaggers, particularly Carter, who's presidency was so disasterous and he's so bitter about it that he can't help himself and he criticizes all American Presidents from the day he left office. This does, however, in a small but important sample, prove my point that liberals can't help themselves because they believe they know everything and are always right.

I expect Obama to be no different and he'll be insufferable for the next 35/40 years.

Kind of like spoiled children.

 

[notquiteright]

What will definitely be going on the ash heap of history is the corpus of lies, slanders, libels, distortions, false characterizations about Bush and his agenda spewed by his left wing opponents. Almost none of them stand up to close examination, especially the "Bush lied" canard. All of them depend almost entirely on an emotionalism that will be impossible to sustain.

Oh I believe the best course for BushII supporters is to drop the attempt to claim the constant barrage of falsified 'intel' the BushII team kept trying to peddle as not lies, the best comment I read on a BushII supporter and his lies was if the President believe at least 1% of the 'fact' could be true then he wasn't knowing lying... :roll:

The counter of course is if you know 99% of what you are claiming is false then how can you not call it a lie?

 

[CanadaJohn]

Sticking to your convictions which fly in the face of truth, reality and results does not make one stronger, it just makes one look sillier.

Physician, heal thyself.

 

[Slyfox696]

Physician, heal thyself.

Which of my convictions have proven incongruent with truth and reality?

 

[StringBean]

Bush simply repeated what Clinton said before him, what everyone knew to be true at the time, that Saddam had WMD and was attempting to get nukes. British intelligence confirmed this, and the CIA's assessment is available for all to see in the National Intelligence Estimate written by the CIA and given to Bush before the invasion. Two bipartisan commissions have confirmed that Bush's administration did not fake or lie about the intelligence.

It's not what the shoe throwers don't know, it's what they think they know that isn't true.

https://www.fas.org/irp/cia/product/iraq-wmd.html

Defending illegitimate war...time is not on your side my friend.