How would you react?
So, the question is - if this were your loved one would you support her no matter what her choice was - to terminate and survive longer or to try and live long enough to give the baby a chance?
How would you react?
A friend who works in a Maternity oriented ICU told me that last year they had 3 women who were diagnosed as terminal cancer whilst pregnant and every one of them chose to continue the pregnancy even if it meant their own lives would be shortened. This caused some ethical re-thinking as usually the mother's life is paramount (it is a catholic hospital).
So, the question is - if this were your loved one would you support her no matter what her choice was - to terminate and survive longer or to try and live long enough to give the baby a chance?
How would you react?
A friend who works in a Maternity oriented ICU told me that last year they had 3 women who were diagnosed as terminal cancer whilst pregnant and every one of them chose to continue the pregnancy even if it meant their own lives would be shortened. This caused some ethical re-thinking as usually the mother's life is paramount (it is a catholic hospital).
So, the question is - if this were your loved one would you support her no matter what her choice was - to terminate and survive longer or to try and live long enough to give the baby a chance?
How would you react?
A friend who works in a Maternity oriented ICU told me that last year they had 3 women who were diagnosed as terminal cancer whilst pregnant and every one of them chose to continue the pregnancy even if it meant their own lives would be shortened. This caused some ethical re-thinking as usually the mother's life is paramount (it is a catholic hospital).
So, the question is - if this were your loved one would you support her no matter what her choice was - to terminate and survive longer or to try and live long enough to give the baby a chance?
How would you react?
IT wouldn't be an issue for us. My wife would definitely want to have the child. Children are immortality.
I am not surprised it's a Catholic hospital.
If one of my sister's made that choice I wouldn't be happy about it... I wouldn't be happy about them risking their lives, because I love them.... but I am pro choice.
I don't have to agree. I just have to respect their choice and that means not forcing them to do what I want... and that is what I would do
A friend who works in a Maternity oriented ICU told me that last year they had 3 women who were diagnosed as terminal cancer whilst pregnant and every one of them chose to continue the pregnancy even if it meant their own lives would be shortened. This caused some ethical re-thinking as usually the mother's life is paramount (it is a catholic hospital).
So, the question is - if this were your loved one would you support her no matter what her choice was - to terminate and survive longer or to try and live long enough to give the baby a chance?
How would you react?
before the RTL'ers jump all over me - think yourself of interacting with someone, coming to like them but knowing that they are being threatened by something you have not yet met or seen. Intellectually we know what is happening -emotionally not so much so.
Also it is ICU - we are about survival
my second boy is due here in the next week or soD ). in no way would i say that my wife and I don't already have a very deep emotional connection to him, and have for quite some time.
my second boy is due here in the next week or soD ). in no way would i say that my wife and I don't already have a very deep emotional connection to him, and have for quite some time.
i remember we had a doc who refused to stop giving a Marine CPR... but the guy's head was blown. i mean, there there was absolutely no way, but he couldn't unlatch from the idea of if he could just keep the body alive long enough to get to the MEK..... :shrug: i get it that part - it's hard to give up on something you're that devoted to.
Congrats on the baby
But this is what makes the abortion issue NOT a black and white one but one with an almost infinite number of shades of grey. When H1N1 (Swine Flu) hit it affected the pregnant women the hardest and with many pregnant women they ended up doing early caesareans hoping that the baby would survive but knowing that unless they did get that baby out NEITHER would survive.
By all accounts it was extremely difficult to care for these women in ICU as they had multiple issues relating to decreased absorption of gastric feeding with high insulin levels causing hypoglycaemia, high oxygen requirements but sick lungs etc etc. More than one pregnant woman did NOT survive because the dramatic physiologic changes during pregnancy. Experience has taught us that we might have to sacrifice one to save another
I would say the woman having an abortion to lengthen her terminally ill self is more "justified" in it. But it's still murder and still wrong.
Murder is a legal term described for the unlawful killing of another human being. This is not an illegal act. In accordance with the legal system which you brought up, this seems much more inline with "Self-Defense", not murder.
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