The not so Greatest Generation?

[Roger Duke]

Making general statements about any group, by definition, includes all members of that group.

If you mean most of, some of, or a few of, you should’ve made that distinction.

16 million Americans served in WWII. I'm sure people here on DP are smart enough to know that I did not mean there wasn't an atheist in the bunch. They are also smart enough to know what generalization is.
Nice deflection though from the evils of cancel culture.

 

[AmNat]

it was also a wake up call for our country regarding white supremacy taken to the extreme.

and now we have neo nazis among us.

True. Killing Nazi fascism was the greatest thing the greatest generation did. Ensuing American generations need to remain vigilant in destroying fascism and such nationalist trash every time it pokes its head out.

Many of the men who were tricked into fighting for liberalism abroad later became staunch opponents of it at home. You’d have called them Nazis had you lived in the 50’s and 60’s.

 

[Roger Duke]

What?

Did I misunderstand your post #192?

 

[CaughtInThe]

Many of the men who were tricked into fighting for liberalism abroad later became staunch opponents of it at home. You’d have called them Nazis had you lived in the 50’s and 60’s.

there is no doubt that white supremacy has lived in our society for centuries.

hell, i bet there are neo nazis on this very board. and on the Hannity board. and will be on Trump's new thing.

 

[Roger Duke]

there is no doubt that white supremacy has lived in our society for centuries.

Is this a CRT lesson? All whites are racists?
I have to ask (if you are white) Have you risen above your cultural racism?

 

[CaughtInThe]

All whites are racists?

is that the way you combat people who say that white supremacy has lived in our society for centuries (which is true). a subtle way to protect them or something?

 

[Roger Duke]

is that the way you combat people who say that white supremacy has lived in our society for centuries (which is true). a subtle way to protect them or something?

I was asking you if you think all whites are racists.
I also asked if you have overcome your cultural racism?....
Or were you born and raised without it?

 

[poweRob]

Many of the men who were tricked into fighting for liberalism abroad later became staunch opponents of it at home. You’d have called them Nazis had you lived in the 50’s and 60’s.

Fascist nationalists are always around. It's our American duty to keep them out of power.

 

[CaughtInThe]

I was asking you if you think all whites are racists.
I also asked if you have overcome your cultural racism?....
Or were you born and raised without it?

i say white supremacy has been around in our country for centuries (which is true).

you ask if all whites (like me) are racists (which is a stupid question because of course all whites aren't racist).


let me ask you, is the white race superior to the others?

 

[Roger Duke]

i say white supremacy has been around in our country for centuries (which is true).

you ask if all whites (like me) are racists (which is a stupid question because of course all whites aren't racist).


let me ask you, is the white race superior to the others?

I do not think the white race is superior to the others.
I do wonder about your statement "white supremacy has lived in our society for centuries"
Somehow you and I have overcome this cultural racism.
How much longer do you think it will be for all whites to overcome it?

 

[CaughtInThe]

I do not think the white race is superior to the others.
I do wonder about your statement "white supremacy has lived in our society for centuries"
Somehow you and I have overcome this cultural racism.
How much longer do you think it will be for all whites to overcome it?

tons of whites aren't racist.

some whites still are. you are familiar with neo nazis (and others) that live in the US, correct?

 

[pocket aces]

So, wanting to defend WWII vets is trash?
Should I mark you down as wanting statues to come down?

No. WWII vets are awesome. Your OP is trash. So where did you copy and paste it from?

 

[Roger Duke]

No. WWII vets are awesome. Your OP is trash. So where did you copy and paste it from?

I don't recall you ever posting anything longer than 2 sentences. The OP is mine and mine alone. I have the ability to think beyond a few words.
If you really think WWII vets are awesome why would you not be interested in protecting their legacy.? . Are you so naive to believe that cancel culture won't steamroll through all of American culture except certain protected groups?

 

[Roger Duke]

tons of whites aren't racist.

I had no idea you were against CRT

 

[RaleBulgarian]

16 million Americans served in WWII. I'm sure people here on DP are smart enough to know that I did not mean there wasn't an atheist in the bunch. They are also smart enough to know what generalization is.

You generalized a lot more than religious beliefs.

They respected the Founding Fathers.
They revered God.
They would have died to stop slow creeping socialism.
They believed in one National Anthem.
They understood immigration should be legal.
They didn't want men in women's public showers.
They believed marriage was between a man and woman.
They spanked their kids.
They practiced chivalry.
They taught their sons to not be sissies.
They liked guns.
They trapped fur bearing animals.
They smoked cigarettes.
They didn't tolerate laziness.

I’d argue that the majority of WW2 vets would not agree with a number of things on your list.

Nice deflection though from the evils of cancel culture.

“Cancel culture”. The new right wing’s bogeyman.

I sincerely hope that once the Republican Party has shed itself of Trump, and several of his most devoted enablers (Jordan, Gaetz, Tuberville, Cruz, Hawley, etc), it will try to redeem itself. A lot to hope for, I know.

 

[southwest88]

Nobody could have predicted the insane cancel culture, woke and politically correct things that are going on in American society but these trends are likely to continue so this seems like an easy prediction.
Someday, not tomorriow, not next year, all WWII statues will come down
The majority of Americans who fought in that war represent everything that Progressives hate.
...

But that's the question - If you look @ how many US nationals fought in WWII, it was a low number, compared in raw numbers or percentage of the adult male population in the various countries involved. (The US was late to both WWI & WWII, & our role in WWII was more providing material & resources to the Allies - although our military fought valiantly when it counted.) See https://www.businessinsider.com.au/...an incredible brunt of casualties during WWII. for a chart of relative losses to death of national populations during WWII.

 

[Roger Duke]

I’d argue that the majority of WW2 vets would not agree with a number of things on your list.

I guess I will say it for the third time then. I did not say that every WWII veteran fit into every category.

 

[Roger Duke]

“Cancel culture”. The new right wing’s bogeyman.

You probably should learn more about cancel culture. You might not believe this but it is a real thing....
and it has racist and sexist tendencies.
Maybe you are in one of the privileged classes of people it will never put in it's crosshairs. Congratulations if that is true.

 

[Noodlegawd]

Nobody could have predicted the insane cancel culture, woke and politically correct things that are going on in American society but these trends are likely to continue so this seems like an easy prediction.
Someday, not tomorriow, not next year, all WWII statues will come down
The majority of Americans who fought in that war represent everything that Progressives hate.
They were strong individualists who didn't want big government telling them what to do.
They respected the Founding Fathers.
They revered God.
They would have died to stop slow creeping socialism.
They believed in one National Anthem.
They understood immigration should be legal.
They didn't want men in women's public showers.
They believed marriage was between a man and woman.
They spanked their kids.
They practiced chivalry.
They taught their sons to not be sissies.
They liked guns.
They trapped fur bearing animals.
They smoked cigarettes.
They didn't tolerate laziness.
By today's progressive woke standards, these guys were all monsters. I see nothing to stop the cancel culture trend. In one era you are a hero and in the next you are a villain.
It will still be a few years until the last WWII vet dies. Look for the cancel culture crowd to start a smear campaign after none of them are left to defend themselves. That's how cowards operate.

You listed some of the bad/dumb things about them, but you left out quite a few.

 

[Roger Duke]

You listed some of the bad/dumb things about them, but you left out quite a few.

I agree and I wrote that in post #109.
The future seems clear for WWII vets. Cancel culture has put them on their list of targets. They plan on wiping out everything in their path except for groups of people they consider worthy to spare. It will take time though. There are other easier targets to hit first.

 

[SoCal]

I'm guessing you have no idea how large the trapping industry used to be.

Yes, fur was fashionable for many decades, never more so than with the greatest generation's upper class. Thankfully you can blame liberal elites for fur coats going out of style, causing the drop in demand, causing the demise of the industry. After all, aren't most fashion trends and styles created by elites in the great cities of the world, LA, NY, Paris and London? If conservatives were setting the fashion trends American women would still look like Mrs. Cleaver. But we do owe them a debt of gratitude for camo fatigues and the missionary position...

 

[Grandpappy]

Archie Bunker was a WWII (the big one) vet. Anzio. What a great guy!

 

[Roger Duke]

Yes, fur was fashionable

This is the difference between liberals and conservatives. Conservatives always ask what the consequences of their actions will be. Liberals always do things that make them feel good at the moment.
The demise of the fur industry has been a disaster for wild animals. In my area coyotes and fox are overpopulated because they don't get thinned out anymore since there is no market for their fur.....so, they're killing everything. Rabbits used to be everywhere and now you can go months without seeing one. In an average year I would see thousands. This year I have seen 4 or 5. It's the same way with every other small animal except squirrels, who can climb trees to get away. Now that fox and coyotes have killed everything in sight, rabbits, woodchucks, etc, even some family pets, they have run out of food. Whenever that happens members of a species die slow painful deaths from disease and starvation. The road kill fox and coyotes I have seen are skinny, mangy and sick looking. They suffered a lot before their death. Several species gone, two species greatly suffering....that's not cruel?
But the loss of the fur market made liberals feel good. Unfortunately, the suffering it has caused for wildlife has been unimaginable.

 

[Grand Mal]

Many of the men who were tricked into fighting for liberalism abroad later became staunch opponents of it at home. You’d have called them Nazis had you lived in the 50’s and 60’s.

Liberalism is the reason you don't have to tip your hat to the aristocrat who owns the land you live on. Liberals won all the rights and privileges you cherish today and they fought against conservatives to win them, all down the line. And It's still happening, liberals are still winning rights for people and conservatives are still resisting those rights.
Were liberals tricked into fighting fascists? Is that what you're saying?

 

[Jack Fabulous]

They believed gays should be in prison and whites and non-whites shouldn’t be able to marry.

Stop judging people of history by using the standards of today. It's stupid, lazy, and dishonest.

The fact is these people saved the world so unless you believe that life would somehow be better had these "racist bigots" just surrendered to the Nazis instead of sacrificing their lives by the MILLIONS to stop them, it would be much better if you just said "thank you" and then STFU.