btw, premiums increased by 119% from 1999 to 2008. that's NOT a small amount.
have a great weekend.
http://www.kff.org/insurance/upload/7692_02.pdf
btw, premiums increased by 119% from 1999 to 2008. that's NOT a small amount.
have a great weekend.
http://www.kff.org/insurance/upload/7692_02.pdf
Not to mention an eight year comparative analysis was applied by her to argue against the one year increase. Liblady, you do realize that was a laughable comparison right? Using an 8:1 ratio without even showing the year to year data this year was still roughly 13% HIGHER than the average over eight years. Again, this IS Obamacare(less) healthcare legislation.13.2% per year average.......... nice try if they went up 26% this year, that would be a 200% increase in rate inflation compared to pre-health care bill passage.
Thanx for making that point.
13.2% per year average.......... nice try if they went up 26% this year, that would be a 200% increase in rate inflation compared to pre-health care bill passage.
Thanx for making that point.
IF?
IF not?
?????
What do we have that is?
The 26% increase was supplied by personal experience of a poster here of a rate increase since HC passed.... that is why I said "if". That figure was validated by another poster that works in the health insurance industry.
Refute it if you can.
I don't need to refuted it. I need verifiable evidence. None of us should accept anyone's word for it. My insurance hasn't gone up since the bill passed, but did long before it passed. So, what we need is something we can view and verify. your willingness to accep unverified information speaks to your bias and little more.
With a knock out in the first minute of the first round...... and still the champion,
jalllllllllllmannnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!
Democrats have, apparently, finally come to the conclusion (I assume internal polling) that Obamacare is a big political loser and the number of people supporting repeal is growing. Why else go through all the trouble of trying to move people from the "repeal" camp to the just "improve it" camp?
BTW, it seems their strategy is just to continue to lie to people about the benefits of the reform. i.e. slide 8. HIPAA already prevents a new employer from denying benefits for a pre-ex condition when the employee had coverage with a previous employer.
New Dem message: 'Improve' health care, don't talk cost - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com
Again, this doesn't support you at all.
He has the rare and distinct dishonor of being on my ignore list because of things like above. He shakes off rock solid factual evidence in the most obnoxious and obvious ways by decree instead of actually learning something and debating. He's got that smug "your facts aren't accurate" defense that is almost never applied correctly.Actually, it does support everything I said about having personally been subjected to a rate hike, in my own state, from the provider I use.
But then we all knew that verification wasn't really what you were after at all.
Actually, it does support everything I said about having personally been subjected to a rate hike, in my own state, from the provider I use.
But then we all knew that verification wasn't really what you were after at all.
Shoot, our company plan increased by almost 26% this year. Our organization is seriously considering getting rid of the insurance plan once Obamacare kicks in because they simply won't be able to afford to keep carrying us. And that's coming from the Finance department...
13.2% per year average.......... nice try if they went up 26% this year, that would be a 200% increase in rate inflation compared to pre-health care bill passage.
Thanx for making that point.
Which is meaningless to the debate
I think you need to go back and read what was said, this time paying a little closer attention to trying to actually UNDERSTAND the conversation.
I'll be the first to admit there's always room for improve. It's the very reason I was so upset to learn that despite accepting some Republicans ideas (contrary to what we've been told) and including them in health care reform legistlations, most Republicans still refused to vote in favor of it. So much time wasted trying to stop it instead of putting forth the very best ideas based on sound research to put forth the very best legistlation Congress could draft. Sad really when you stop and think about it.
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