The most Propagandized country on earth

[Joe Hill]

Thanks to our tax money, Israel enjoys subsidies to settlers and affordable health care for all. US soldiers fight their dangerous enemies while they brutalize and murder helpless Palestinians. ZionCons are not only becoming increasingly mindless about the Israeli human rights crimes, they have become increasingly heartless.

Sixty years of massive, ongoing, coldly calculated human rights abuses against the Palestinian people.

That's the legacy of the State of Israel.

Americans pay the bills for this tyranny and our hopelessly corrupt news media and elected officials go along with it because it's politically expedient.

Note: The videos of IfAmericansKnew.org are constantly removed by YouTube censors.

YouTube - If Americans Knew What Israel Is Doing! VIDEO WAS CENSORED!

 

[sotrueblue]

Most propagandized is a bit much dont you think? There's alot of competition for that title.

Why does Youtube ban these videos?

 

[John1234]

The video does not support the title very well and does not really bring anything new to the table aside from Yahoo suppressing anti Israeli videos.

I could agree though that we might have one of the most corrupted medias on earth and through the influence of both big business and government we end up with a rather large share of propaganda.

Since the start of mass media, special interest groups have used it to spew forth propaganda that supports their agenda and not the truth.
Our obsession with money, profit, and ratings has led us to have a media that is less than free.
The internet is starting to change this.
But in addition to the good information one can acquire over the net, there is a lot more bad information available too.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

Really? More than North Korea?

 

[niftydrifty]

hyperbole is a useful tool for propagandists.

 

[Joe Hill]

Straight Stalinist propaganda is not the most effective means of persuasion...too clumsy and brutal. Huge posters and statues are not needed in a nation of couch potatoes. How often are the issues that affect the vital interests of most Americans (such as single payer national health insurance), discussed? Occasionally NOW and Bill Moyers' Journal will do so while the MSM focuses on politics as usual. However, even PBS is timid about showing the Palestinian side.

" The corporate grip on opinion in the United States
is one of the wonders of the Western world. No First
World country has ever managed to eliminate so
entirely from its media all objectivity - much less
dissent.": Gore Vidal

Anyone who has the power to make you believe
absurdities [. . .such as Kassam rocket launches justify Israeli massacres of civilians. . .Joe Hill] has the power to make you commit
injustices." - Voltaire, 1767

Israeli and Palestinian Children Killed Since September 29, 2000
119 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 982 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000.
Palestinian and Israeli children Killed

 

[ludahai]

Straight Stalinist propaganda is not the most effective means of persuasion...too clumsy and brutal. Huge posters and statues are not needed in a nation of couch potatoes. How often are the issues that affect the vital interests of most Americans (such as single payer national health insurance), discussed? Occasionally NOW and Bill Moyers' Journal will do so while the MSM focuses on politics as usual. However, even PBS is timid about showing the Palestinian side.

" The corporate grip on opinion in the United States
is one of the wonders of the Western world. No First
World country has ever managed to eliminate so
entirely from its media all objectivity - much less
dissent.": Gore Vidal

Anyone who has the power to make you believe
absurdities [. . .such as Kassam rocket launches justify Israeli massacres of civilians. . .Joe Hill] has the power to make you commit
injustices." - Voltaire, 1767

Israeli and Palestinian Children Killed Since September 29, 2000
119 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 982 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000.
Palestinian and Israeli children Killed

Hmm - think that might be because the terrorist cowards hide behind civilian populations and use them as human shields?

 

[John1234]

Hmm - think that might be because the terrorist cowards hide behind civilian populations and use them as human shields?

"Terrorist cowards" can easily apply to both sides.
Terrorists are not exactly cowards either.

Anyhow, In most Israeli attacks I have read about, the "terrorists" were not "hiding" behind civilians.
Most of the time its a car that is bombed or a building, and the "terrorists" never knew what hit them, only they end up killing all of the civilians in the area as well.
Or worse, their intel was bad and all they got were some civilians.

Before you come back with a link, understand that i do not dispute the existence of "terrorists" hiding behind civilians.
My claim is simply that this occurs far too little to account for such a discrepancy in deaths of children.

But what really sends off a red flag for me is that many of the Palestinian "terrorists" do for certain target women and children deliberately.
If you think on that one for a moment you will start to realize the ramifications of it as it relates to the numbers.

 

[ludahai]

"Terrorist cowards" can easily apply to both sides.
Terrorists are not exactly cowards either.

Anyhow, In most Israeli attacks I have read about, the "terrorists" were not "hiding" behind civilians.
Most of the time its a car that is bombed or a building, and the "terrorists" never knew what hit them, only they end up killing all of the civilians in the area as well.
Or worse, their intel was bad and all they got were some civilians.

Before you come back with a link, understand that i do not dispute the existence of "terrorists" hiding behind civilians.
My claim is simply that this occurs far too little to account for such a discrepancy in deaths of children.

But what really sends off a red flag for me is that many of the Palestinian "terrorists" do for certain target women and children deliberately.
If you think on that one for a moment you will start to realize the ramifications of it as it relates to the numbers.

Are you claiming that the Israelis DELIBERATELY target children like the Palestinian terrorists do?

 

[Doc Howl]

Can someone please explain to me why I should care about either the Israelis or the Palestinians?

 

[John1234]

Are you claiming that the Israelis DELIBERATELY target children like the Palestinian terrorists do?

Nope.
I consider it a possibility at times but claiming it to be a certainty? Absolutely not.

But it is also very evident that the Israeli's are both using excessive force AND completely disregarding any potential civilian casualties.
The math proves this beyond any possible doubt.

 

[ludahai]

Can someone please explain to me why I should care about either the Israelis or the Palestinians?

Who is saying YOU have to care about them? As a Catholic Christian, I am concerned about all people, but most of all, I am concerned about the Chosen People of God and the Holy Land.

 

[ludahai]

Nope.
I consider it a possibility at times but claiming it to be a certainty? Absolutely not.

But it is also very evident that the Israeli's are both using excessive force AND completely disregarding any potential civilian casualties.
The math proves this beyond any possible doubt.

There are statistics, damned statistics, and lies. THe only think your stats prove is that there are more Palestinian children that have died than Israeli. You have obviously not considered other factors that may be involved.

 

[Doc Howl]

Who is saying YOU have to care about them? As a Catholic Christian, I am concerned about all people, but most of all, I am concerned about the Chosen People of God and the Holy Land.

Har har! Chosen people. WHICH chosen people?

Doc,
Is mostly concerned about Americans.

 

[John1234]

There are statistics, damned statistics, and lies. THe only think your stats prove is that there are more Palestinian children that have died than Israeli. You have obviously not considered other factors that may be involved.

Those are not "my" stats.
I've considered many things, for many years.
I view both sides equally in the conflict while having a very slight lean to the Israeli's due to the "Hamas Charter".

Since I have no bias for either side, things like numbers and facts tend to make an Impression on me.

 

[ludahai]

Har har! Chosen people. WHICH chosen people?

Doc,
Is mostly concerned about Americans.

I am concerned about all people as they are all our brothers and sisters. The Chosen people are those chosen by God, that that was the Hebrews.

 

[ludahai]

Those are not "my" stats.
I've considered many things, for many years.
I view both sides equally in the conflict while having a very slight lean to the Israeli's due to the "Hamas Charter".

Since I have no bias for either side, things like numbers and facts tend to make an Impression on me.

Statistics mean little without proper context. I don't know if you have ever studied statistics or statistical methods before, but the numbers are one thing. However, sufficient background is needed to INTERPRET those numbers.

I feel for the Palestinian people, however, the Israelis have the right to protest their people as well.

 

[Doc Howl]

I am concerned about all people as they are all our brothers and sisters. The Chosen people are those chosen by God, that that was the Hebrews.

Hmmm. Okay. If that works for you.

On the other hand, I don't buy into the "chosen people" concept, probably because I don't worship your God.

So I think I will continue to give my own nation top priority.

 

[ludahai]

Hmmm. Okay. If that works for you.

On the other hand, I don't buy into the "chosen people" concept, probably because I don't worship your God.

So I think I will continue to give my own nation top priority.

That is your right - however, I have a larger view than that as a result of being faithful to God's universal Church.

 

[John1234]

Hmmm. Okay. If that works for you.

On the other hand, I don't buy into the "chosen people" concept, probably because I don't worship your God.

So I think I will continue to give my own nation top priority.

They stopped being the "Chosen People" when God gave us Jesus Christ.

 

[Red_Dave]

Hmmm. Okay. If that works for you.

On the other hand, I don't buy into the "chosen people" concept, probably because I don't worship your God.

So I think I will continue to give my own nation top priority.

Well given the fact [assuming your american] your government has a significant role in the conflict and your government is answerable to you then you have a moral imperative to pay attention to whats happening.

 

[Red_Dave]

Who is saying YOU have to care about them? As a Catholic Christian, I am concerned about all people, but most of all, I am concerned about the Chosen People of God and the Holy Land.

St paul would disagree with you there [see Galatians 3:28]

 

[ludahai]

St paul would disagree with you there [see Galatians 3:28]

Saint Paul is saying that we should care for ALL of the children of God - which is all of us. I DO care for all of the Children of God. However, due to the special plight of the descendants of the Chosen People, we have a responsibility to be especially concerned for them.

 

[BillyBob]

Straight Stalinist propaganda is not the most effective means of persuasion...too clumsy and brutal. Huge posters and statues are not needed in a nation of couch potatoes. How often are the issues that affect the vital interests of most Americans (such as single payer national health insurance), discussed? Occasionally NOW and Bill Moyers' Journal will do so while the MSM focuses on politics as usual. However, even PBS is timid about showing the Palestinian side.

" The corporate grip on opinion in the United States
is one of the wonders of the Western world. No First
World country has ever managed to eliminate so
entirely from its media all objectivity - much less
dissent.": Gore Vidal

Anyone who has the power to make you believe
absurdities [. . .such as Kassam rocket launches justify Israeli massacres of civilians. . .Joe Hill] has the power to make you commit
injustices." - Voltaire, 1767

Israeli and Palestinian Children Killed Since September 29, 2000
119 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 982 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000.
Palestinian and Israeli children Killed

It doesn't matter, the Israelites are GOD's chosen people. They are right no matter what because Israel is sanctioned by GOD.

Besides, it's just muslims, if we let the kids grow up, they'll just suicide bomb us. Better to take them out when they are young.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

It doesn't matter, the Israelites are GOD's chosen people. They are right no matter what because Israel is sanctioned by GOD.

Besides, it's just muslims, if we let the kids grow up, they'll just suicide bomb us. Better to take them out when they are young.

Please tell me thats sarcasm, and that you aren't actually an immoral religious nutjob?

EDIT: Nope, given your recent posting history, you are for real. Wow... Its like talking to someone from the dark ages, or looking at a tapedeck; They still make you?