"The Lowest White Man" (1 Viewer)

[Patriotic Voter]

I just so happen to be the lowest white man. I'm pretty sure that I'm beneath the lowest black man. Everyone has to be someone.

No way. The lowest white men hate dogs.

 

[ultmd]

It's sad watching the left make excuses for supporting Marxist ideas by lying about conservatives. The very best protection for all people of all races is the US Constitution, economic advancement and personal safety and security. Nothing the left advocates promotes any of these.

It's REALLY sad to see rightwingers still spewing the same ignorant, discredited "Socialist/Marxist" talking points that DIDN'T WORK in the last election....especially after being in hiding since losing the election.

Good luck with that, you guys.

Now, do you have anything of substance to say about LBJ's prophetic quote, about people like you, Veritas?

 

[veritas1]

It's REALLY sad to see rightwingers still spewing the same ignorant, discredited "Socialist/Marxist" talking points that DIDN'T WORK in the last election....especially after being in hiding since losing the election.

Good luck with that, you guys.

Now, do you have anything of substance to say about LBJ's prophetic quote, about people like you, Veritas?

His quote has nothing to do with me. You're the one who's race obsessed, like most all of the left. Your continued character assassination and charges against me without evidence also make a loud statement about you, "doctor".

 

[Individualism]

LOL, Farrakhan wouldn't hire you. I would, and you'd be lucky to work for me. But the minute you spoke to, or treated one of my patients in a manner reflective of your ignorant, white-grievance politics....you'd be gone. And I'd let every one of your future employers know exactly what you are, when they called me.

Clearly you have some personal stories behind what you are writing.

Marcus Aurelius hired someone to keep wispering in his ear: "You are just a man", "You are just a man".

And that is Marcus Aurelius not someone from Texas. He knew about humility.

We won't go into what we achieved and who can hire who because again, someone who is comfortable with themselves and know they achieved something through hard work does not throw fits.

I sure hope the people that you hire have some lawyers in the family. They will have a lot of fun in court.

"Mr. Moderate from Texas, how exactly did you know the intent of employee X when you fired him for 'white grievance' politics ?" Aren't there slander laws on the book too ? I believe the US justice system still protects the individual.

That is not good for business.

 

[CaughtInThe]

“I’ll tell you what’s at the bottom of it,” he said. “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

so true

 

[CaughtInThe]

if you looked at that pic and became angry or disgusted, go see a shrink.

 

[Individualism]

if you looked at that pic and became angry or disgusted, go see a shrink.

Paranoia at high levels today. Aside from a few people with no teeth who else would disagree with your statement ? That does not matter to you or to the doctor, we are all racists stopping the utopia.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Aside from a few people with no teeth who else would disagree with your statement ?

you mean like white supremacists around the globe?

 

[ultmd]

His quote has nothing to do with me. You're the one who's race obsessed, like most all of the left. Your continued character assassination and charges against me without evidence also make a loud statement about you, "doctor".

LBJ was talking about people LIKE you. Stop whining. I can't "assassinate" the character of someone who demonstrates no signs of it. I simply said LBJ's quote was speaking to people like you...i.e. white people with loads of racial resentment "issues", who vote against their own best interests because of those "issues".

And since when have you concerned yourself with accuracy or honesty? LBJ's quote has a heck of a lot more to do with you, than "socialist/marxist" does with Democrats and liberals in the U.S.

That much is clear.

 

[ultmd]

(blah, blah, blah)....

"Mr. Moderate from Texas,....

(blah, blah, blah).....

...says the alt-right, lightly educated, pseudo-intellectual Canadian Brit who's feels entitled enough to preach ignorance about the ails of African-American people, communities and culture.

Everything with you is deflection and shallow banter.

You've posted about 10 times in this thread, and STILL haven't managed to covey an intelligence, fact-based argument. When challenged to debate, you'll say almost anything to deflect from the topic. All we know, at this point, is that you think everyone is a racist as you admit to being.

That says a lot about you. Not much about anyone else.

But again, you are what I thought you were, all along. That much is clear.

 

[Individualism]

All we know, at this point, is that you think everyone is a racist as you admit to being.

That is a line that Roy Cohn would have used during the McCarthy Trials.

Your conclusion is incorrect.

Well if you are a doctor, thank you for being on the frontlines.

Also, thank you for not going into law and not becoming a judge. The lawsuits for abuse of power would have cost the taxpayers lots of money.

As an accurate conclusion: I am enjoying myself on this forum. Is 4 am in the morning I am about to begin another productive day, is that a sign of 'white grievance' too ?

On a more serious note. You want change in society ? Look yourself in the mirror first:

When I was a young man, I wanted to change the world.

I found it was difficult to change the world, so I tried to change my nation.

When I found I couldn't change the nation, I began to focus on my town. I couldn't change the town and as an older man, I tried to change my family.

Now, as an old man, I realize the only thing I can change is myself, and suddenly I realize that if long ago I had changed myself, I could have made an impact on my family. My family and I could have made an impact on our town. Their impact could have changed the nation and I could indeed have changed the world

- Author: Unknown

 

[veritas1]

LBJ was talking about people LIKE you. Stop whining. I can't "assassinate" the character of someone who demonstrates no signs of it. I simply said LBJ's quote was speaking to people like you...i.e. white people with loads of racial resentment "issues", who vote against their own best interests because of those "issues".

And since when have you concerned yourself with accuracy or honesty? LBJ's quote has a heck of a lot more to do with you, than "socialist/marxist" does with Democrats and liberals in the U.S.

That much is clear.

You're lying again. The only person with a racial resentment issue is you. It fairly drips from every post you make, "doctor".

 

[ultmd]

You're lying again. The only person with a racial resentment issue is you. It fairly drips from every post you make, "doctor".

You seem triggered, "mister". Why?

I'm sure people around here still remember your pre-election fantasies and warnings of a "Boogaloo"/2nd Civil War if Trump lost. Don't try to run from them, now that your boy go crushed in the election.

You're also known as the kind of rightwinger who accuses "the left" of being the "real" racists, and who accuses all opponents of Trump of being "socialists" and "marxists".

So obviously, you are what you are. My advice to you is to either fix it, or embrace it and own up to it.

Either way, please...stop whining every time someone treats you the way you treat everyone else around here.

 

[joko104]

Snopes doesn't require a subscrip[tion.

LBJ said it. Johnson wasn't a socialist, but he did understand the mentality of bigots

LBJ: 'If You Can Convince the Lowest White Man He's Better Than the Best Colored Man ...'

President Lyndon B. Johnson, who grew up in the South and understood the politics of racism from the inside, saw it in part as a ploy to divide and conquer.

www.snopes.com

LBJ was an extreme bigot who deliberately and successfully set up to destroy black families by creating a welfare system that rewards divorce and single parenting - and punishes 2-parent families.

 

[ultmd]

As an accurate conclusion: I am enjoying myself on this forum. Is 4 am in the morning I am about to begin another productive day, is that a sign of 'white grievance' too ?

So, now...merely doing your job (i.e. working) "proves" that your ignorant opinions about African-American people, communities and culture do not reek of white-grievance politics?

Only from the minds of people like you, could a statement like the above originate.

You're a foreigner....who has little-to-no personal experience in the U.S, and almost certainly no real exposure to African-Americans.....who feels entitled enough to declare "the facts" about black people, communities and culture in the U.S.....who pretends to be an "intellectual" (like Ayn Rand, lol).....yet COMPLETELY folds up and runs away when challenged to debate/defend your own rhetoric....on a message board DEDICATED to debate and discussion.

Clearly, you're just an ideologue with little interest in academic/intellectual discussion. You believe what you believe, and you read/watch/listen to only that which agrees with your views. You seek affirmation, not education. Your rationalizations of the racial bigotry of white conservatives like you....are cheap and convenient.

 

[ultmd]

LBJ was an extreme bigot

This part is true. LBJ certainly WAS an unapologetic segregationist. He WAS.

He changed.

And he was man enough to acknowledge it, and own up to his past, publicly. After LBJ succeeded JFK in the Oval Office, and before passing the landmark Civil Rights Act of '65, he said this to his biographer (Bill Moyer):
"Most of us don't have a second chance to correct the mistakes of our youth. I do and I am. Eisenhower used to tell me that this place was a prison. I never felt freer."

In fact, on his very first night as POTUS, in the Oval Office, (i.e. Nov. 22, 1963), LBJ said this to Moyer and Jack Valenti:
“You know, when I went into that office tonight and they came in and started briefing me on what I have to do, do you realize that every issue that is on my desk tonight was on my desk when I came to Congress in 1937?” Civil rights. Health insurance for the elderly and the poor. Federal aid to primary and secondary education. Support for higher education. Antipoverty and nutritional programs. So the question isn't whether to do these things, but how?"

But LBJ also understood the politics of race in this country. He understood that "the Lowest White Man" could be convinced to vote against his own best economic interests, by being convinced that black people (rather than rich white people) were responsible for his plight. That's what the OP is all about.

who deliberately and successfully set up to destroy black families by creating a welfare system that rewards divorce and single parenting - and punishes 2-parent families.

This is just nonsense. Like every major piece of legislation ever passed into law, there were strong and weak aspects of the Social Security Amendments Act of '65. But the idea that LBJ personally and "deliberately" sought to "destroy black families", etc.....is just more white-grievance nonsense.

 

[Individualism]

You're a foreigner

“If you are cold, tea will warm you;
if you are too heated, it will cool you;
If you are depressed, it will cheer you;
If you are excited, it will calm you.”
― William Ewart Gladstone

 

[veritas1]

You seem triggered, "mister". Why?

I'm sure people around here still remember your pre-election fantasies and warnings of a "Boogaloo"/2nd Civil War if Trump lost. Don't try to run from them, now that your boy go crushed in the election.

You're also known as the kind of rightwinger who accuses "the left" of being the "real" racists, and who accuses all opponents of Trump of being "socialists" and "marxists".

So obviously, you are what you are. My advice to you is to either fix it, or embrace it and own up to it.

Either way, please...stop whining every time someone treats you the way you treat everyone else around here.

Sorry but you're lying again. I never claimed there would be any civil war if Trump lost. I never said that anywhere. I said that there could be violence once the left started trampling on everyone's rights as is their stated intention. All leftists aren't racists but many are and they shamelessly use race to drive a wedge between people. You do it constantly in here so you would know.

 

[ultmd]

Sorry but you're lying again. I never claimed there would be any civil war if Trump lost. I never said that anywhere. I said that there could be violence once the left started trampling on everyone's rights as is their stated intention. All leftists aren't racists but many are and they shamelessly use race to drive a wedge between people. You do it constantly in here so you would know.

Still triggered, "mister"? Just because I said LBJ's words seemed to apply well to you (and others like you)?

Well...here's one easy way to tell if someone has "issues" about race:

• -People who are able to calmly, rationally and intellectually discuss the varied manifestations of bigotry and racism as issues...tend NOT to be bigots and/or racists.
• -People who think that merely mentioning or acknowledging race/racism is "racist"....tend to be bigots and racists who are easily triggered and eager to project their bigotry upon others.

As your history here and your post above illustrate, you clearly have some "issues" about race.

Live a little longer, and (hopefully) open your mind a bit...and you'll understand this, as well.

 

[Individualism]

As your history here and your post above illustrate, you clearly have some "issues" about race.

The only individual that has "issues" and is obsessive about race is you. No amount of debating and intellectual exchange of ideas will change your mind. I know of an individual that decided to invest in a Russian mine hoping to get a return. Of course no return came as the state took over .

Every time I have the urge to engage with you with quotes, cites, studies, etc, etc, etc I picture that Russian mine.

What is equally hilarious is that you probably think the reason people don't engage with you is due to your high IQ.

High or low IQ, you lack humility and I suggest you listen to an old saying: "Be respectful to those you meet on the way up because you will meet them on the way down" especially to your employees that you would fire due to your determination of "white grievance politics". I sure hope small businesses in the US don't operate by your model of thinking or else your country is in serious trouble. That goes for the other side as well.

 

[ultmd]

The only individual that has "issues" and is obsessive about race is you.

More projection from the uneducated Canadian/British white nationalist. Looked I'm not the guy spewing ignorance about black people on an anonymous political debate board, and then cowering from the opportunity to defend it.

That's you. Don't whine when people call your nonsense what it is.

Dismissed.

No amount of debating and intellectual exchange of ideas will change your mind.

Dumb argument. Your next attempt at "debate", will be your very first.

Your problem here is that you CAN'T debate, because you don't have the mental chops to do it. If you could defend your ignorant, bigoted remarks, you'd have done so by now. You realized that early on.

I know of an individual that decided to invest in a Russian mine hoping to get a return. Of course no return came as the state took over .

No one cares.

Every time I have the urge to engage with you with quotes, cites, studies, etc, etc, etc I picture that Russian mine.

LOL, stop lying to yourself. You people are very good at self-delusion and self-aggrandizement. It's comes, part-in-parcel, with the whole self-educated, pseudo-intellectual-conservative thing.

You don't debate, because you're a bit out of your league in this one. And you know it.

What is equally hilarious is that you probably think the reason people don't engage with you is due to your high IQ.

Seems as though you're looking for others to support you, here. But there is no one else coming to your aid. You're the only person I've come across who is so completely unprepared to defend himself on this board.

High or low IQ, you lack humility

Low IQ or not, you lack intellectual gravitas.

and I suggest you listen to an old saying: "Be respectful to those you meet on the way up because you will meet them on the way down" especially to your employees that you would fire due to your determination of "white grievance politics".

LOL...something tells me you've never run a business, never met a payroll, nor hired/fired/promoted people in your life. So I suggest you stay in Canada and keep plugging away at whatever it is you do to pay your rent.

I sure hope small businesses in the US don't operate by your model of thinking or else your country is in serious trouble. That goes for the other side as well.

Stay in Canada. You'll do better there. Less diversity. Less competition. Less likelihood that your delusional Ayn Rand ideology will be challenged.

 

[Individualism]

something tells me you've never run a business, never met a payroll, nor hired/fired/promoted people in your life. So I suggest you stay in Canada and keep plugging away at whatever it is you do to pay your rent.

The tennis club that I attend there are 2 groups of people. One is like you, always all over the place, arrogant. This is the people that achieved something but are not happy with themselves. They drive Mercedes but get so angry when they see a Ferrari parked up front.

Don't get all happy, as I suspect this might not be even your case, You might be doing reverse physicology but I am an optimist. Let us keep playing the tape.

If you are telling the truth and are indeed a doctor I understand your struggle.

Is probably very tough to wake up daily questioning if your entrance to medical school was based on merit or just a matrix of affirmative action. Is not your fault, affirmative action is like currency, too much of it and the value of the degree decreases.

In turn, you get angry (instead of drinking tea) and you show your tribalism by pointing the finger towards whites. In my estimation, under your pillow somewhere we can find some anti-semitism as well. A package deal.

 

[ultmd]

The tennis club that I attend there are 2 groups of people. One is like you, always all over the place, arrogant. This is the people that achieved something but are not happy with themselves. They drive Mercedes but get so angry when they see a Ferrari parked up front.

Don't get all happy, as I suspect this might not be even your case, You might be doing reverse physicology but I am an optimist. Let us keep playing the tape.

If you are telling the truth and are indeed a doctor I understand your struggle.

Is probably very tough to wake up daily questioning if your entrance to medical school was based on merit or just a matrix of affirmative action. Is not your fault, affirmative action is like currency, too much of it and the value of the degree decreases.

In turn, you get angry (instead of drinking tea) and you show your tribalism by pointing the finger towards whites. In my estimation, under your pillow somewhere we can find some anti-semitism as well. A package deal.

..... oops! Your white nationalist slip is showing, again!

This takes us right back to your very first remarks in this thread.

Just as I thought. I knew that if I kept you talking long enough, you'd let your frustration show, and let your inner bigot out again. You people are so predictable: Too lazy to be truly educated....to sheltered to speak from an experiential perspective....and yet, filled with immutable conviction about beliefs that are little more than greivance-based emotions.

So again....as I've been saying....You really are what you appeared to be from the very beginning. Bigotry, ignorance and white-grievance are never rarely difficult to identify.

So good luck to you, as you prepare to clock in to your hourly wage job for the day, my white nationalist friend.

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Oh....and I believe he word you were looking for, above, was "Psychology", my wannabe intellectual friend.

You're welcome.

 

[Individualism]

..... oops! Your white nationalist slip is showing, again!

Oh....and I believe he word you were looking for, above, was "Psychology", my wannabe intellectual friend.

I am a foreigner , English is not my first language. When you can speak spanish, italian, french, hebrew or solve basic derivative problems at the same level that I speak English at then we will talk.

I highly doubt you are a product of affirmative action as you seem to have a somewhat high intellect however supporting this system just allows for more doubt to be casted on individuals that succeed by merit. Instead of embracing your individualism, you support mediocrity. Why ? Either you are an idealist or a propagandist which is ok. Whatever floats your boat.

Nothing wrong with minimum wage jobs, my family ran away from communists back home. Engineers and chemists started their journey cleaning warehouses. Hard work, the education that they received and humility for the nation (Canada) that took them in got them far in life. According to you, it was privilege.

I, however, I am not a hypocrite, I recognize that my personal experiences shaped my view about life. You fail at this aspect. If having the last word makes you sleep better, have at it. Just remember Newton's third law, action = reaction.

 

[ultmd]

I am a foreigner , English is not my first language. When you can speak spanish, italian, french, hebrew or solve basic derivative problems at the same level that I speak English at then we will talk.

Triggered again? What does any of that have to do with anything? This is not a Spanish...nor Italian....nor French...etc. board. By your own pathetic Ayn Randian standards, you should know better than to appeal for special favor or consideration....and yet, you just did.

As is ALWAYS the case with people like you....the "individualism" (and all the other pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-tough philosophizing) proves to be selective and lenient for yourselves, but strict and binary for everyone else.

Thank you for sticking around long enough to help me make the case against you and your fake-ass, thinly-veiled racist philosophies.

I highly doubt you are a product of affirmative action as you seem to have a somewhat high intellect however supporting this system just allows for more doubt to be casted on individuals that succeed by merit. Instead of embracing your individualism, you support mediocrity. Why ? Either you are an idealist or a propagandist which is ok. Whatever floats your boat.

.... again with the low-information musings....

Neither I, nor anyone else, cares what you think. The only reasons to engage someone like you on this board are to discuss/debate a topic....OR....to use you as a unwitting tool to prove a point. I'll let you figure out why I'm still playing with you.

Nothing wrong with minimum wage jobs, my family ran away from communists back home. Engineers and chemists started their journey cleaning warehouses. Hard work, the education that they received and humility for the nation (Canada) that took them in got them far in life. According to you, it was privilege.

Nothing at all wrong with minimum wage jobs. Of course, I've offered no previous mention of that issue, whatsoever, so......this would be another "nothing" response from you. You're basically a bit of a bigot. That's been established in this thread.

Yet, like most of your ilk, you're afraid to admit to your views (much less defend them). So that suggests a degree of shame on your part. You don't have the "stones" to own up to what you believe...so you seek out pseudo-intellectual philosophies that re-enforce your views, and then hide behind them because you cannot otherwise rationalize your bigotry.

Nothing new there. It's rather standard, in fact. This is what you people do.

I, however, I am not a hypocrite, I recognize that my personal experiences shaped my view about life. You fail at this aspect. If having the last word makes you sleep better, have at it. Just remember Newton's third law, action = reaction.

LOL, trust me when I say I'm not worried about any "reaction" from you good people. Been there, seen that. Not the least be worried about what you people pretend you might do, some day.

Good day.