The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.[W:409]

[Mach]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

What else needs to be said? Any attempt at rational discussion would be a waste of my time. Libs are hypocrites. :shrug:

Your argument is indeed irrational. But that's a choice.

 

[JamesBY]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

Wow, thats impressive ! Makes you wonder why didnt the Democrats run on Obama's amazing economic achievments ?

Oh I know why, they knew that even THEIR voters werent complete imbecilles and they knew they wouldnt buy it.

Sorry, but a discount rate held at near zero for Obama's entire two terms is nothing to brag about

They did run on the economic improvements over the eight years after the Bush collapse. Quit the alt facts: you cannot sustain them.

 

[JamesBY]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

Democrats have no right to complain after 8 years of a program that most people couldn't afford unless you were lucky enough to have other people subsidizing yours. Aside from that, the current republicans are about as worthless as whale ****.

12 to 15 million people will call your post nonsense.

 

[Port & Starboard]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

They are going after Obama care out of hatred, not logic. There wasn't a person involved in Obama care that didn't think that it wouldn't have to be adjusted like all big bills do. Generally annually. All these hate party people know that but Obama is Black so screw everyone. I realize that the prime motive is a black Obama and The people who make over $250,000.00 paying for it. Considering that's who controls the strings on these little hate party puppets.
I would just like to know why it is better that I pay for the needy healthcare with my tax dollars. Putting 21 million people back on the dole leaves one hell of a annual healthcare bill on the tax payer/ But God forbid that the poor people making over $250,000.00 a household were paying for it. All the flat heads think that the only right way is a flat tax. I would like to know what civilized country in the world does that, Give me 10 of them and I'll stop laughing about the flat tax.

You continue to out do your self with yet another outlandish analogy.

 

[Port & Starboard]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

12 to 15 million people will call your post nonsense.

The republicans are letting the current law ride.

28 million cannot afford to use it, so Let's see what happens JameBY.



People brag about the numbers of enrolled, and overlook the people who can't afford to use it.

 

[JamesBY]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

The republicans are letting the current law ride.

28 million cannot afford to use it, so Let's see what happens JameBY.

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People brag about the numbers of enrolled, and overlook the people who can't afford to use it.

Let both parties run on it, you bet. Why are the medicaid expansionees not counted in? Hmmm?

So our GOP wants to kick close to 30 million out of any chance of getting health care.

Our GOP is ready to walk the plank.

 

[fmw]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

"The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing."

Kid stuff compared to the hatred the left has for Trump.

 

[Port & Starboard]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

Let both parties run on it, you bet. Why are the medicaid expansionees not counted in? Hmmm?

So our GOP wants to kick close to 30 million out of any chance of getting health care.

Our GOP is ready to walk the plank.

Just as a side note:

I am one that promotes non profit healthcare. Healthcare could still be a thriving industry without all the 20% profit margins of the insurance companies and hospitals.

I only wish I had the "smarts" to make my case it to the people.

 

[Casca XV]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

Dude, relax. Take a deep breath. What are you talking about? Have public schools made people lazy and irresponsible? Have fire and police departments made people lazy and irresponsible? No. It's what modern civil societies do. It reminds me of some people I have talked to have said they will refuse to wipe their own behinds because any attempt to make things better is reaching for utopia and so is liberal fascism. LOL. Forget utopia. Wipe your behind already.

Actually our public schools have made people lazy and irresponsible. Prior to Department Of Education centralized public schools system American compared to the rest of the world had the best overall education system. For the last 50 years Leftist/Progressive/Liberal/Socialists have 100% control of public schooling and now we have the worst education in the world

Despite the claims of Leftist Propagandist Fire/police/military/roads & bridges are not features of socialism. The are taxpayer funded services that every Govt back to the Greeks and Romans have had.

Even programs like SSI, food stamps and welfare are not examples of socialism. They are safely nets that a free society with a strong Free market capitalist economy can afford to pay for. Leftist in Govt often do try to expand and use these programs to advance their Ideology.

 

[JamesBY]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

"The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing."

Kid stuff compared to the hatred the left has for Trump.

Trump absolutely deserves the scorn, ridicule, finger pointing, and calls to resign.

He has a pathology that makes him unfit for office.

He will betray the very people who made the win possible: the red counties in MI, MN, and WI.

 

[fmw]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

Trump absolutely deserves the scorn, ridicule, finger pointing, and calls to resign.

He has a pathology that makes him unfit for office.

He will betray the very people who made the win possible: the red counties in MI, MN, and WI.

Thanks for making my point.

 

[JamesBY]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

Thank you, Casca XV and ataraxi, for clean and concise statements the far right and alt right cannot refute.

Get ready to have the refuse basket dumped on you.

 

[JamesBY]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

Thanks for making my point.

Telling the truth about Trump is always my point.

I never kid about Trump.

 

[Mycroft]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

There wasn't a person involved in Obama care that didn't think that it wouldn't have to be adjusted like all big bills do. Generally annually.

Not interested in most of the blather in your post...only this bit.

Question: If the Democrats thought it would have to be adjusted...annually...why didn't they advance any legislation to do so in the six years since they shoved it down our throats?

 

[Fenton]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

They did run on the economic improvements over the eight years after the Bush collapse. Quit the alt facts: you cannot sustain them.

Lol...after 8 years youre still blaming Bush.
Its a bit pathetic, dont you think ?

 

[Linc]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

Lol...after 8 years youre still blaming Bush.
Its a bit pathetic, dont you think ?

The total accumulated debt as we know it started with Reagan's $400 billion deficits. What would those be in today's dollars ?

 

[JamesBY]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

Lol...after 8 years youre still blaming Bush. Its a bit pathetic, dont you think ?

I know that real facts bother you. It's called context, Fenton, and it is necessary to get a true picture. The Alt Right fascists lying through their teeth don't care about the truth at all.

 

[MTAtech]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

If you are a Republican with diabetes and want to repeal Obamacare, it means that you hate Obama more than you love your feet.

At least you, as a libertarian, is making an honest argument, namely, that making healthcare available to those who need it is a not a legitimate role of government and it's better to let some citizens go bankrupt and/or die if they get sick is the price of freedom. But that's not the argument the GOP is making. They're making a dishonest argument -- that after cutting hundreds of billions out of Medicaid and subsidies their plan will cover more people, make health care cheaper, protect Americans with pre-existing conditions, etc. -- which is fiction.

How about those who cannot afford to pay the premiums or deductibles to save their feet at the present?

(1) If they are below a certain income threshold, they are eligible for Medicaid or in wise un-vindictive states, expanded Medicaid.
(2) If the earn more than in (1) but below 400% of the poverty line, they are eligible for generous subsidies.
(3) if they earn more than 400% of the poverty line, they should be able to pay for their premiums.

Mind you, the GOP plans did nothing to make coverage more affordable.

 

[SocialD]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

The program doesn't need to be voted on by congress to get most of what is needed done to adjust the problems involved in Obama care, like all other bills of this size. Your judgement of government on what is being spent, could be better directed on what it is spent on. Anyone can fix the budget by dumping programs and tax laws that only benefit a minute few in this population. That's where your energy belongs in my opinion. I'll give you a little secret though ,all government spends money and going against that is just not sensible and guess what, government gets funding through taxes/

So what can be done to fix it without changing the law then? as to everything else you said, tell me something I don't already know. yes all government spends... they spend more than is needed though and waste too much of it. Of course that's not a secret. focus needs to be on getting more out of the money they spend instead of spending more money. So when I just see a bill trying to appropriate more money when I know tons is already wasted, particularly in the health care area, I tend to usually not support it.

 

[Fenton]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

I know that real facts bother you. It's called context, Fenton, and it is necessary to get a true picture. The Alt Right fascists lying through their teeth don't care about the truth at all.

Lol !! " Alt-Right Fascist " ??? Youv'e got to be what ? 14 ? 15 years old ?

 

[Moderate Right]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

They are going after Obama care out of hatred, not logic. There wasn't a person involved in Obama care that didn't think that it wouldn't have to be adjusted like all big bills do. Generally annually. All these hate party people know that but Obama is Black so screw everyone. I realize that the prime motive is a black Obama and The people who make over $250,000.00 paying for it. Considering that's who controls the strings on these little hate party puppets.
I would just like to know why it is better that I pay for the needy healthcare with my tax dollars. Putting 21 million people back on the dole leaves one hell of a annual healthcare bill on the tax payer/ But God forbid that the poor people making over $250,000.00 a household were paying for it. All the flat heads think that the only right way is a flat tax. I would like to know what civilized country in the world does that, Give me 10 of them and I'll stop laughing about the flat tax.

Seriously? The level of hate that the left has for Trump is amazing.

 

[WillyPete]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

Lol....Oh BS

A 2016 GOA report uncovered billions of dollars illegalky transfered to struggling insurers by the Obama administratioBS

So even with billions of dollars in illegal transfers the Insurers still had to bail out of the exchanges.

The CBO projected over 20 million on the exchanges by 2016.
Less than half that were actually buying policies through the exchanges last year.

ObamaCare was a disaster from day one.

With all that ground covered, no doubt you'll have a link or two to offer?

How can we expect the CBO to make accurate projections when we're undercutting the funding?

 

[apdst]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

They are going after Obama care out of hatred, not logic. There wasn't a person involved in Obama care that didn't think that it wouldn't have to be adjusted like all big bills do. Generally annually. All these hate party people know that but Obama is Black so screw everyone. I realize that the prime motive is a black Obama and The people who make over $250,000.00 paying for it. Considering that's who controls the strings on these little hate party puppets.
I would just like to know why it is better that I pay for the needy healthcare with my tax dollars. Putting 21 million people back on the dole leaves one hell of a annual healthcare bill on the tax payer/ But God forbid that the poor people making over $250,000.00 a household were paying for it. All the flat heads think that the only right way is a flat tax. I would like to know what civilized country in the world does that, Give me 10 of them and I'll stop laughing about the flat tax.

Adjusted? It's collapsing! That isn't an adjustment. That's an out-of-frame rebuild.

 

[JamesBY]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

Lol !! " Alt-Right Fascist " ??? Youv'e got to be what ? 14 ? 15 years old ?

If you think that, then you are fourteen. If you don't understand the terms, definitions, and philosophies now, you will by the time this is all over.

 

[JamesBY]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

Seriously? The level of hate that the left has for Trump is amazing.

No matter how much you say it, what does not change that he has earned every bit of the resistance and ten times more.