The left even ruins Netflix ratings system.

[Fishking]

Netflix has recently changed it's rating system from the normal 1-5 star rating to just a thumbs up and thumbs down. Then, when you're looking for something new to watch, it only gives you a % match to your likes. Now, this doesn't mean the show is any good, but is the most basic of genre matches. So I recalled a show that was previously rated at 3 stars, they changed the system to what it is now and it gave me a high fidelity match. So I decide to give it a shot and it's bad. I thought the Netflix star ratings were generally spot on and didn't over-inflate ratings. If Netflix gave something 5 stars, it was generally pretty good. Now I have no idea if the show I'm looking at is any good.

This is my own theory on this, and Netflix's official statement seems a thinly veiled excuse. I think they changed it because leftists were bitching about supposed "Reddit trolls" giving people like Amy Schumer (who is actually horribly not funny) 1 star ratings. They complained about it and now we have this crap system.

Amy Schumer: Alt-right Internet trolls behind Netflix special's bad reviews | Fox News

Amy Schumer insists people really like her new Netflix special, and claims alt-right Internet trolls are the ones responsible for its bad buzz.

Schumer's "The Leather Special" debuted last week on Netflix, and as the streaming service’s subscribers are starting to watching it, less-than-stellar reviews have been pouring in.

But the stand-up comic said these reviews aren't because her special is sub-par. She says its poor reception is a result of a coordinated online campaign from the alt-right.

"The alt right organized trolls attack everything I do," she said in a lengthy Instagram post. "They organize to get my ratings down."

This is their official statement:

Netflix Changes Rating System Because ?5 Stars Feels Very Yesterday' | The Huffington Post

Say goodbye to Netflix’s five-star rating system. The entertainment company revealed Thursday that it would be replacing the feedback tool with a simple thumbs-up, thumbs-down format.

Netflix vice president of product Todd Yellin said that the streaming giant has already been testing the replacement rating system among some customers and found a 200 percent increase in user reviews. The change will hit all subscribers in April.

“Five stars feels very yesterday now,” Yellin said, according to reporters present at the briefing. “We’re spending many billions of dollars on the titles we’re producing and licensing, and with these big catalogs, that just adds a challenge.”

Sorry. I'm not buying that excuse. The new system makes browsing for better quality shows unmanageable. I did a live chat with customer support to ask if I could set up my account with the old system and no dice. I asked why they changed it and they didn't know, supposedly.

 

[Crovax]

 

[spud_meister]

Sounds to me like the right ruined the rating system by abusing it. As you correctly point out, the rating system is used to judge shows you'd enjoy watching, and if the show is being given negative rating out of political spite, and not because it's simply not funny, then the system isn't working as intended.

 

[Winston]

Netflix has recently changed it's rating system from the normal 1-5 star rating to just a thumbs up and thumbs down. Then, when you're looking for something new to watch, it only gives you a % match to your likes. Now, this doesn't mean the show is any good, but is the most basic of genre matches. So I recalled a show that was previously rated at 3 stars, they changed the system to what it is now and it gave me a high fidelity match. So I decide to give it a shot and it's bad. I thought the Netflix star ratings were generally spot on and didn't over-inflate ratings. If Netflix gave something 5 stars, it was generally pretty good. Now I have no idea if the show I'm looking at is any good.

This is my own theory on this, and Netflix's official statement seems a thinly veiled excuse. I think they changed it because leftists were bitching about supposed "Reddit trolls" giving people like Amy Schumer (who is actually horribly not funny) 1 star ratings. They complained about it and now we have this crap system.

Amy Schumer: Alt-right Internet trolls behind Netflix special's bad reviews | Fox News



This is their official statement:

Netflix Changes Rating System Because ?5 Stars Feels Very Yesterday' | The Huffington Post



Sorry. I'm not buying that excuse. The new system makes browsing for better quality shows unmanageable. I did a live chat with customer support to ask if I could set up my account with the old system and no dice. I asked why they changed it and they didn't know, supposedly.

Schumer's statements could be accurate. The 4chan crowd is a neurotic bunch, who obsess over destroying people online to cover up for their inadequacy in real life. I wouldn't put it past them. They're a bunch of babies.

Saying that Schumer's explanation is invalid and it represents the left, does not work, unless you also condemn Trump who scores even higher than her, in the excuses column. Trump has explained away his unpopularity by calling all negative polls fake and insisted that millions of illegal immigrants voted for Hillary Clinton. This looks just as desperate, if not more.

I don't use Netflix anymore, so I can't comment on the functionality. I switched to Amazon Prime. I prefer Netflix programming but, Amazon Prime offered me more bang for my buck. I just had an idea... Maybe you could cross-reference her specials ratings on other websites, to see if it garners universal low ratings from other communities.

 

[Fishking]

Schumer's statements could be accurate. The 4chan crowd is a neurotic bunch, who obsess over destroying people online to cover up for their inadequacy in real life. I wouldn't put it past them. They're a bunch of babies.

Saying that Schumer's explanation is invalid and it represents the left, does not work, unless you also condemn Trump who scores even higher than her, in the excuses column. Trump has explained away his unpopularity by calling all negative polls fake and insisted that millions of illegal immigrants voted for Hillary Clinton. This looks just as desperate, if not more.

Oh...I might not have been clear. I accept that she was targeted by trolls from whatever 4chan is. This probably happens to other people as well. I'm just saying that she just also happens to actually suck as a comedian. She's so bad people walked out of her act. However, that's the risk you run by being a public figure and entertainer.

I don't use Netflix anymore, so I can't comment on the functionality. I switched to Amazon Prime. I prefer Netflix programming but, Amazon Prime offered me more bang for my buck. I just had an idea... Maybe you could cross-reference her specials ratings on other websites, to see if it garners universal low ratings from other communities.

Yeah, I have Amazon Prime as well but doing that would be quite cumbersome to have to look up ratings on every show I'm looking at.

 

[Fiddytree]

Then I should thank the Left for very slightly improving the Netflix rating system, which was so terrible I never could trust it. Classics would get 1 or 2 stars, while reality tv shows would get 3 or 4. The thumbs up is one step in the right direction, but a very long way from where it ought to go: the tomatometer.

 

[ecofarm]

Thanks, Obama!

 

[Fishking]

Sounds to me like the right ruined the rating system by abusing it. As you correctly point out, the rating system is used to judge shows you'd enjoy watching, and if the show is being given negative rating out of political spite, and not because it's simply not funny, then the system isn't working as intended.

It worked for the most part. I never ran into anything where it was far off of where it should be. But no...now we have an utterly **** rating system because some leftists cry about it. Oh, and she's actually horrible so, trolling or not, she earned her low rating.

 

[Fishking]

Then I should thank the Left for very slightly improving the Netflix rating system, which was so terrible I never could trust it. Classics would get 1 or 2 stars, while reality tv shows would get 3 or 4. The thumbs up is one step in the right direction, but a very long way from where it ought to go: the tomatometer.

Ehh.....what are you talking about? The thumbs up is only for you to see. No one else sees the thumbs up or thumbs down that others give. All the new system does is match up genres, which means nothing.

 

[Fiddytree]

Ehh.....what are you talking about? The thumbs up is only for you to see. No one else sees the thumbs up or thumbs down that others give. All the new system does is match up genres, which means nothing.

Which is all the better than the ****e star system.

 

[soylentgreen]

I wonder if this has anything to do with a new series depicting teen suicide.

13 Reasons Why prompts warnings and new classification request | Stuff.co.nz

13 Reasons Why prompts warnings and new classification request

Mental health professionals and the chief censor are warning a US drama series depicting teenage suicide and rape could be harmful to Kiwi teenagers.

13 Reasons Why, a 13-part show about a teenage girl who commits suicide, was released in New Zealand on March 31 and has been given an adult rating by Netflix.

In addition to suicide the series includes rape, drug use and bullying. A graphic content warning precedes four of episodes.

The chief censor, Dr Andrew Jack, has requested a classification after being alerted to the series "strong" content by a member of the public, Office of Film and Literature Classification senior advisor Henry Talbot said.

"Being that it is likely to be of interest to a younger audience it is particularly important that Netflix viewers are given trusted information about the content and the potential harm to young people."
Ruby Methven, King's 15-year-old daughter, said the show was very relevant to Kiwi teenagers and promoted discussion of suicide.

This is a seriees relevant to teens and yet has been given an adult rating which is inappropriate as the series is aimed at teens.

 

[Crovax]

I wonder if this has anything to do with a new series depicting teen suicide.

13 Reasons Why prompts warnings and new classification request | Stuff.co.nz



This is a seriees relevant to teens and yet has been given an adult rating which is inappropriate as the series is aimed at teens.

Watching that show was so awful it made me want to commit suicide

 

[PoS]

I think a lot of it has to do with the bottom line. Producers on these shows get rankled when they get terrible review ratings. Because it affects their earnings. They didnt take it seriously before but now they are realizing just how much of a factor it is.

imo, this is why IMDB shut off their message boards. A lot of users would complain (and rightly so) about movies that had yet to be released because they thought making these movies was a bad idea. I even joined in on a few and these movies ultimately bombed.

 

[EnigmaO01]

Netflix has recently changed it's rating system from the normal 1-5 star rating to just a thumbs up and thumbs down. Then, when you're looking for something new to watch, it only gives you a % match to your likes. Now, this doesn't mean the show is any good, but is the most basic of genre matches. So I recalled a show that was previously rated at 3 stars, they changed the system to what it is now and it gave me a high fidelity match. So I decide to give it a shot and it's bad. I thought the Netflix star ratings were generally spot on and didn't over-inflate ratings. If Netflix gave something 5 stars, it was generally pretty good. Now I have no idea if the show I'm looking at is any good.

This is my own theory on this, and Netflix's official statement seems a thinly veiled excuse. I think they changed it because leftists were bitching about supposed "Reddit trolls" giving people like Amy Schumer (who is actually horribly not funny) 1 star ratings. They complained about it and now we have this crap system.

Amy Schumer: Alt-right Internet trolls behind Netflix special's bad reviews | Fox News



This is their official statement:

Netflix Changes Rating System Because ?5 Stars Feels Very Yesterday' | The Huffington Post



Sorry. I'm not buying that excuse. The new system makes browsing for better quality shows unmanageable. I did a live chat with customer support to ask if I could set up my account with the old system and no dice. I asked why they changed it and they didn't know, supposedly.

Who cares about what something is rated on Netflix? I wife and I pick what we want to watch and watch it. Never pay attention to ratings.

 

[Carjosse]

Watching that show was so awful it made me want to commit suicide

I for some reason feel like you are not the target audience.

 

[Carjosse]

I think a lot of it has to do with the bottom line. Producers on these shows get rankled when they get terrible review ratings. Because it affects their earnings. They didnt take it seriously before but now they are realizing just how much of a factor it is.

imo, this is why IMDB shut off their message boards. A lot of users would complain (and rightly so) about movies that had yet to be released because they thought making these movies was a bad idea. I even joined in on a few and these movies ultimately bombed.

Well the rating system was actually to gauge how much you liked a show and give you recommendations based on it, it was never intended to act as a review of sorts. You have to remember Netflix makes their money from keeping you watching and the more accurately they can recommend you content the more likely you are going to keep watching. And the thumbs up system apparently makes people more likely to rate shows and therefore make it easier to make good recommendations and keep viewers watching.

 

[Fishking]

Which is all the better than the ****e star system.

No, it isn't. It literally tells you nothing about the quality of the suggestions, not even a "****ty star system". You could watch a solid documentary on WW2 and it will give you a match with one on WW1 but it could be filmed on a cellphone camera and talking about how it was the fault of dinosaurs. Now, that's hyperbole but that basically how the new system works.

Again, I remember a show that had 3 stars before give me something like a 97% match on the new system. I watched a bit of it and it was bad, just like the rating indicated it was. I never found the system to be that far off so it's quite possible you have very strange taste in entertainment.

 

[Fishking]

Who cares about what something is rated on Netflix? I wife and I pick what we want to watch and watch it. Never pay attention to ratings.

Because wasting time watching something that sucks is a wast of time.

 

[Phys251]

Netflix has recently changed it's rating system from the normal 1-5 star rating to just a thumbs up and thumbs down. Then, when you're looking for something new to watch, it only gives you a % match to your likes. Now, this doesn't mean the show is any good, but is the most basic of genre matches. So I recalled a show that was previously rated at 3 stars, they changed the system to what it is now and it gave me a high fidelity match. So I decide to give it a shot and it's bad. I thought the Netflix star ratings were generally spot on and didn't over-inflate ratings. If Netflix gave something 5 stars, it was generally pretty good. Now I have no idea if the show I'm looking at is any good.

This is my own theory on this, and Netflix's official statement seems a thinly veiled excuse. I think they changed it because leftists were bitching about supposed "Reddit trolls" giving people like Amy Schumer (who is actually horribly not funny) 1 star ratings. They complained about it and now we have this crap system.

Amy Schumer: Alt-right Internet trolls behind Netflix special's bad reviews | Fox News



This is their official statement:

Netflix Changes Rating System Because ?5 Stars Feels Very Yesterday' | The Huffington Post



Sorry. I'm not buying that excuse. The new system makes browsing for better quality shows unmanageable. I did a live chat with customer support to ask if I could set up my account with the old system and no dice. I asked why they changed it and they didn't know, supposedly.

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Are you suggesting it's liberals who see things through a bipolar, love-it-or-hate lens and conservatives who see things on a spectrum?

 

[Fishking]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Are you suggesting it's liberals who see things through a bipolar, love-it-or-hate lens and conservatives who see things on a spectrum?

No, I'm saying that crying about getting bad ratings by liberals changed the rating system to something that's worthless.

 

[ecofarm]

1:40

 

[Phys251]

No, I'm saying that crying about getting bad ratings by liberals changed the rating system to something that's worthless.

Post proof or retract. Amy Schumer's comments and Netflix's decision are two separate matters.

 

[Fiddytree]

No, it isn't. It literally tells you nothing about the quality of the suggestions, not even a "****ty star system". You could watch a solid documentary on WW2 and it will give you a match with one on WW1 but it could be filmed on a cellphone camera and talking about how it was the fault of dinosaurs. Now, that's hyperbole but that basically how the new system works.

Again, I remember a show that had 3 stars before give me something like a 97% match on the new system. I watched a bit of it and it was bad, just like the rating indicated it was. I never found the system to be that far off so it's quite possible you have very strange taste in entertainment.

I'm saying it's an improvement because I don't have to see what the hulks of Netflix users, typically, rate programs. Your opinions, the opinions of your neighbors, and so on, will not have any perceivable impact on rating anything. And that's for the best. But, we should be transferring it to a cumulative rating scale from actual film critics.

 

[Anagram]

Netflix has recently changed it's rating system from the normal 1-5 star rating to just a thumbs up and thumbs down. Then, when you're looking for something new to watch, it only gives you a % match to your likes. Now, this doesn't mean the show is any good, but is the most basic of genre matches. So I recalled a show that was previously rated at 3 stars, they changed the system to what it is now and it gave me a high fidelity match. So I decide to give it a shot and it's bad. I thought the Netflix star ratings were generally spot on and didn't over-inflate ratings. If Netflix gave something 5 stars, it was generally pretty good. Now I have no idea if the show I'm looking at is any good.

This is my own theory on this, and Netflix's official statement seems a thinly veiled excuse. I think they changed it because leftists were bitching about supposed "Reddit trolls" giving people like Amy Schumer (who is actually horribly not funny) 1 star ratings. They complained about it and now we have this crap system.

Amy Schumer: Alt-right Internet trolls behind Netflix special's bad reviews | Fox News



This is their official statement:

Netflix Changes Rating System Because ?5 Stars Feels Very Yesterday' | The Huffington Post



Sorry. I'm not buying that excuse. The new system makes browsing for better quality shows unmanageable. I did a live chat with customer support to ask if I could set up my account with the old system and no dice. I asked why they changed it and they didn't know, supposedly.

I'd have a hard time believing that a company like Netflix would make a business decision like this just to appease a few celebrities anyway, but Netflix has been looking to change their system for over a year.

Netflix wants to ditch 5-star ratings - Business Insider

 

[Fiddytree]

I'd have a hard time believing that a company like Netflix would make a business decision like this just to appease a few celebrities anyway, but Netflix has been looking to change their system for over a year.

Netflix wants to ditch 5-star ratings - Business Insider

I know that Netflix's rationale has long been that the guilty pleasure factor somehow inhibits positive user ratings. Typically, I've noticed the opposite. Crap programming gets meh reviews at worst, a lot of great programming gets less than stellar marks. It's not as bad as Redbox, but pretty silly all the same.

I come at odds with Netflix's fundamental premise: "Hunt doesn't think the problem comes from bundling you with similar users. The problem comes with the very idea of you rating a movie."

I simply do not buy that at all.

Rotten Tomatoes has a great system: provide a pretty accurate score on the number of professional critics liking content, then on the side have an audience score. If I had to choose one over the other, give me the Critic score, toss aside the public's opinion. However, it could easily do both.