The justification for wealth-redistribution.[W:2037]

[PMZ]

Re: Supreme Court Responsibilities

but it does, its a check and balance of the constitution, becuase it prevents the federal government from usurping states powers......becuase the senate is in the hands of the states........and the senate is not going to pass any bill which seeks to limit them powers.

this keeps the federal government from creating federal laws, which usurping with states powers and expanding government outside of the constitution.

If they are elected by the state legislature Sentors will "prevent the federal government from usurping states powers" but if elected by the people in the state they won't????

That makes no sense at all.

 

[Master PO]

Re: The justification for wealth-redistribution.

Most aboriginal tribal governments had no monarchs.

and thats supposed to mean?



when i say to you America has a mixed government, and use democracy, aristocracy, and monarchy.

NOW NONE OF THIS MEANS ......ROYAL........it means how officials are elected.

the senator is elected by a few....aristocracy.....state legislature is a group of a few.

the president is elected by fewer....a monarchy.....electoral college is a group of fewer people......again it have NOTHING TO DO WITH ROYALTY.

it has noting to do with a ruling class

 

[PMZ]

Re: Supreme Court Responsibilities

when you tell me modern u.s. government ....all it tells me is you not for constitutional laws, and the checks and balances of the government, that you want them removed, and they you wonder why government is corrupt.

those checks and balances are there to limit corruption in our federal government, and prevent any one branch from having to much power.

We have always followed the Constitution. Times have changed. Using the process prescribed by the Constitution, we, the people, who the Constitution empowers, amended it to keep it current with the times. The last Amendment has become just as much a part of the Constitution as the first one.

Denying that is denying the Constitution.

 

[Arbo]

Re: The justification for wealth-redistribution.

If there is always "some form of employment" for everyone, there is no unemployment.

Your words.

I agree. But many don't. Stay in the real world.

Doesn't matter if they agree or not, if they are dumb enough to put themselves in a position that is too 'expensive', it's their own fault, and their own responsibility.

 

[PMZ]

Re: Supreme Court Responsibilities

i think thing so, since you like the government the way it is today, with its unconstitutional acts, and its far outside its delegated powers.

There is no unconstitutional federal legislation being enforced today. Denying that is denying the Constitution.

 

[Master PO]

Re: The justification for wealth-redistribution.

You did read the "without due process of law" part, right?

this is to prove to you, that happiness-------> means property.

individual citizens can lose their rights by due process, if they commit crimes, or engage in activity which violates the health and safety of other people.

however the right...ITSELF. meaning the right for the people as a [whole] cannot be taken away by government.

 

[Master PO]

Re: Supreme Court Responsibilities

There is no difference between humanity before governments and jungle animals.

man has reason...animals dont.

 

[Master PO]

Re: The justification for wealth-redistribution.

I don't know what business you are in, but you must hire especially dumb employees if you, as the owner of the means, are the only one thinking.

oh, if i hire a person to make burgers, how does making burgers make my business a success.

it does not take a smart individual to make a burger, ..but it does take a person with brains and ideas, to lead a company to success.

according to you logic, ...all i have to do in hire more and more workers, and i will be a success

 

[PMZ]

Re: Supreme Court Responsibilities

really?.... so you saying the majority can never be tyrannical?

america is not suppose to have minority rule or majority rule, that is why we have a constitution, ..but you wish to turn the constitution upside down, and go to majority rule.

Why would the majority impose something that they don't want on themselves?

 

[Master PO]

Re: Supreme Court Responsibilities

Without government, the guy with the biggest club is in charge of rights. He issues and revokes them.

and that is why governments are instituted to protect those rights.......not grant them

 

[Master PO]

Re: The justification for wealth-redistribution.

The Magna Carta is considered the earliest Constitution.

and there is some point to this?

 

[PMZ]

Re: The justification for wealth-redistribution.

It is becoming more of a pain to have a job than not have a job. it isn't to fun to see other people get benefits that you have to pay for yet because you work and earn money you get nothing in return except the next tax bill.

Yet, I don't see anyone quitting a good paying job to live in poverty on welfare.

 

[imagep]

Re: The justification for wealth-redistribution.

Majority rule = tyranny.

Not to the majority.

Anyone who is out of power is going to claim that the other side is a tyrant. So there will be tyranny, or at least the accusation of it, always. There is no way of avoiding it, and no suggestion made in this discussion would end tyranny.

Get over it, and move on to a practical topic.

 

[PMZ]

Re: The justification for wealth-redistribution.

and thats supposed to mean?



when i say to you America has a mixed government, and use democracy, aristocracy, and monarchy.

NOW NONE OF THIS MEANS ......ROYAL........it means how officials are elected.

the senator is elected by a few....aristocracy.....state legislature is a group of a few.

the president is elected by fewer....a monarchy.....electoral college is a group of fewer people......again it have NOTHING TO DO WITH ROYALTY.

it has noting to do with a ruling class

Any time a minority has power over the majority they are a ruling class.

 

[Master PO]

Re: Supreme Court Responsibilities

If they are elected by the state legislature Sentors will "prevent the federal government from usurping states powers" but if elected by the people in the state they won't????

That makes no sense at all.

becuase a state legislature composed of many people, have state powers, and they are going to have the senate stop any federal legislation, which try's to usurp THOSE state powers.

the people are not concerned with state powers, they are concerned what government will do for them, ...people are self centered and work in their own interest.

state legislatures work in their own interest which is that of the state and its powers.

 

[PMZ]

Re: The justification for wealth-redistribution.

Your words.



Doesn't matter if they agree or not, if they are dumb enough to put themselves in a position that is too 'expensive', it's their own fault, and their own responsibility.

In your opinion only smart people deserve a life??

 

[Master PO]

Re: The justification for wealth-redistribution.

Any time a minority has power over the majority they are a ruling class.

that is true.....but america is not to have either minority or majority rule......that is why we have constitutional law........but its not being followed.

 

[PMZ]

Re: The justification for wealth-redistribution.

this is to prove to you, that happiness-------> means property.

individual citizens can lose their rights by due process, if they commit crimes, or engage in activity which violates the health and safety of other people.

however the right...ITSELF. meaning the right for the people as a [whole] cannot be taken away by government.

Taxes are required by the due process of law. They apply to everyone that they specify.

 

[PMZ]

Re: Supreme Court Responsibilities

becuase a state legislature composed of many people, have state powers, and they are going to have the senate stop any federal legislation, which try's to usurp THOSE state powers.

the people are not concerned with state powers, they are concerned what government will do for them, ...people are self centered and work in their own interest.

state legislatures work in their own interest which is that of the state and its powers.

If the people of a state are not concerned with state powers, neither should the state legislature be. They work for the people not themselves.

 

[Master PO]

Re: The justification for wealth-redistribution.

Taxes are required by the due process of law. They apply to everyone that they specify.

what point are you trying to make here?

 

[PMZ]

Re: The justification for wealth-redistribution.

what point are you trying to make here?

That the government, through the due process of law, can claim property from citizens and residents. Taxes are one example. Eminent Domain is another.

 

[Master PO]

Re: Supreme Court Responsibilities

If the people of a state are not concerned with state powers, neither should the state legislature be. They work for the people not themselves.

a state legislature is given powers by its constitution.....of coarse they are going to work to preserve their powers from federal usurpation

people when they vote, always vote in their own interest.......when you vote for you senator, are you voting and saying to yourself...."now what will my senator do which helps my state legislature maintain its states powers and protect federalism?...........no..you are thinking how will my senator vote in the senate on ------>federal issues.

state legislatures, composed of many people work in the interest of the state, and to protect ..its people, it lands, its powers, and its laws.

 

[PMZ]

Re: The justification for wealth-redistribution.

that is true.....but america is not to have either minority or majority rule......that is why we have constitutional law........but its not being followed.

"but america is not to have either minority or majority rule"

Minority and majority are mutually exclusive. It has to be one or the other.

 

[PMZ]

Re: Supreme Court Responsibilities

a state legislature is given powers by its constitution.....of coarse they are going to work to preserve their powers from federal usurpation

people when they vote, always vote in their own interest.......when you vote for you senator, are you voting and saying to yourself...."now what will my senator do which helps my state legislature maintain its states powers and protect federalism?...........no..you are thinking how will my senator vote in the senate on ------>federal issues.

state legislatures, composed of many people work in the interest of the state, and to protect ..its people, it lands, its powers, and its laws.

"a state legislature is given powers by its constitution"

But their agenda is from their constituents. If they try to operate outside the will of their constituents they will, and should be, fired. That's democracy in action.

 

[Master PO]

Re: The justification for wealth-redistribution.

That the government, through the due process of law, can claim property from citizens and residents. Taxes are one example. Eminent Domain is another.

yes, because property taxes are used to create revenue.......to [support the privileges] which state governments provide.....and becuase governments have removed Allodial title from property....only Texas has Allodial tile in some places.

eminent domain, was be be used, ....when the taking of property was to benefit the union as a whole,.....not the 1 or the few...it has been perverted.