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The Israel v Iran War : It's First Casualty : The United States of America

Contumacious said:
Reread my words.

If you are gullible, naive and/or a resident of LaLaLand you ability to think critically has been destroyed .

Of course if you are a member of any of those entities then you are compromised by interest
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TRANSLATION: Can't back up one's bullshit.

You keep using this nonsense "warmonger-neocrazy-war profiteer-Likudnick Axis".

What does that mean to non Conspiracy Theory people?
 
Fledermaus said:
In other words the UN resolution is what happened.

UN

Not USA.
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In other words ENGLISH COMPREHENSION IS NOT YOUR FORTE


"Because the UNGA’s resolutions >>>>>>>>are recommendations and not legally binding <<<<<<<according to the UN Charter, the World accepted that the UNGA resolution 181 as a recommendation and not legally binding."

ONLY the UN Security Council has the authority to issue legally binding declarations.

Israel has IGNORED UN RESOLUTIONS WHEN CONVENIENT TO DO SO
 
Contumacious said:
No Sir - UN Resolution 181 was NEVER approved by the UN Security Council


"Because the UNGA’s resolutions are recommendations and not legally binding according to the UN Charter, the World accepted that the UNGA resolution 181 as a recommendation and not legally binding."

https://jusoorpost.com/en/posts/36627/a-binding-resolution-of-the-united-nations-general-assembly-for-the-united-nations-security-council-the-united-nations-general-assembly-resolution-181#:~:text=Because the UNGA's resolutions are,recommendation and not legally binding.
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Semantics. Israel declared itself independent and won the ensuing war to prove it. Had nothing to do with the USA.
 
Contumacious said:
Reread my words.

If you are gullible, naive and/or a resident of LaLaLand you ability to think critically has been destroyed .

Of course if you are a member of any of those entities then you are compromised by interest
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It is quite easy to see that you are. Libertarian given the conspiracy nonsense in which you deal.
 
Contumacious said:
In other words ENGLISH COMPREHENSION IS NOT YOUR FORTE


"Because the UNGA’s resolutions >>>>>>>>are recommendations and not legally binding <<<<<<<according to the UN Charter, the World accepted that the UNGA resolution 181 as a recommendation and not legally binding."

ONLY the UN Security Council has the authority to issue legally binding declarations.

Israel has IGNORED UN RESOLUTIONS WHEN CONVENIENT TO DO SO
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Was the a UN resolution?

Why yes... Yes it was.

The USA did not create Israel no matter how large you make the font.



BTW -
You keep using this nonsense "warmonger-neocrazy-war profiteer-Likudnick Axis".

What does that mean to non Conspiracy Theory people?
 

Contumacious said:
It appears that the Warmonger-Neocrazy-War Profiteer coalition has AGAIN effectuated a Coup d' Etat against President Trump thereby dissolving the Mandate the WE THE PEOPLE gave to our Anti-War President
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There was no coup d’etat. Trump is as complicit in this as anybody. His rhetoric against Iran was always bellicose going all the way back to his 2016 campaign. And during his first term, he pulled out of the Iran Nuclear Deal and almost got us into a war with Iran. And he always bragged about being the “most pro-Israel president” in American history. And Israel has been wanting the U.S. to go to war against Iran for decades.

I’m just glad I didn’t vote for Trump. I believe in REAL America First, not a faux “America First” that actually puts Israel First.

Mark
 
Grand Mal said:
Israel declared itself independent
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HUH?

Independence from whom?

Palestine was already independent - the Palestinians acquired their independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1917 . SO what are you talking about ?
 
markdc said:
There was no coup d’etat. Trump is as complicit in this as anybody. His rhetoric against Iran was always bellicose going all the way back to his 2016 campaign. And during his first term, he pulled out of the Iran Nuclear Deal and almost got us into a war with Iran. And he always bragged about being the “most pro-Israel president” in American history. And Israel has been wanting the U.S. to go to war against Iran for decades.

I’m just glad I didn’t vote for Trump. I believe in REAL America First, not a faux “America First” that actually puts Israel First.

Mark
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The President decided to give diplomacy a chance .
About a Month ago Tulsi Gabbard , Susie Wiles, the White House chief of staff, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, and Vice President JD Vance opposed Military Action - so your conclusion is baseless.

www.middleeasteye.net

Trump dismissed Israeli plans to attack Iran in favour of negotiations

Splits within US administration eventually led to 'rough compromise' against military action
www.middleeasteye.net www.middleeasteye.net
 
watsup said:
It is quite easy to see that you are. Libertarian given the conspiracy nonsense in which you deal.
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IF it was in fact a "conspiracy theory " you would have easily refuted or rebutted the same by now. You haven't b/c you couldn't.
 
Contumacious said:
HUH?

Independence from whom?

Palestine was already independent - the Palestinians acquired their independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1917 . SO what are you talking about ?
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From everyone.

And no.

Palestinians did not acquire their independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1917

The British Egyptian Expeditionary Force, commanded by Edmund Allenby, captured Jerusalem on 9 December 1917 and occupied the whole of the Levant following the defeat of Turkish forces in Palestine at the Battle of Megiddo in September 1918 and the capitulation of Turkey on 31 October.
 
Contumacious said:
"Because the UNGA’s resolutions are recommendations and not legally binding according to the UN Charter, the World accepted that the UNGA resolution 181 as a recommendation and not legally binding."
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One should also note that only Syria, on the Security Council, opposed it and both the US and Soviet Union voted for it.

Pretty obvious that while not made binding on the parties, it was the consensus of a strong majority of the world.
 
Contumacious said:
HUH?

Independence from whom?

Palestine was already independent - the Palestinians acquired their independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1917 . SO what are you talking about ?
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Declared they were a country. The British Palestinian Mandate ended in 1948 and Israel declared themselves a nation.
Do you think the Palestinians were governing themselves? The League of Nations gave the governing of Palestine to the British.
 
Questerr said:
Exactly. So why should anyone believe they would gives nukes to terrorists?
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The CIA controls the Mockinbird Media aka the SEE BS Network - whenever they want to smear a country they give the propaganda to their TV stations for broadcasting
 
maxparrish said:
One should also note that only Syria, on the Security Council, opposed it and both the US and Soviet Union voted for it.

Pretty obvious that while not made binding on the parties, it was the consensus of a strong majority of the world.
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Given the many due process issues concerning Palestine the only organ that should have ventilated the issue was

The primary purpose of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) is to settle legal disputes between states and provide advisory opinions on legal questions to authorized UN organs and specialized agencies, according to the UN research guides. It acts as the principal judicial organ of the United Nations, aiming to promote international peace and legal resolution

Research Guides: UN Documentation: International Court of Justice: Introduction

Research Guides: UN Documentation: International Court of Justice: Introduction
research.un.org research.un.org
 
Contumacious said:
In other words ENGLISH COMPREHENSION IS NOT YOUR FORTE


"Because the UNGA’s resolutions >>>>>>>>are recommendations and not legally binding <<<<<<<according to the UN Charter, the World accepted that the UNGA resolution 181 as a recommendation and not legally binding."

ONLY the UN Security Council has the authority to issue legally binding declarations.

Israel has IGNORED UN RESOLUTIONS WHEN CONVENIENT TO DO SO
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I don't think you are grasping what others are saying. They are not claiming that the UN recommeneded plan HAD to be implemented by international law, but it did not preclude its implementation either.

It is a statement of moral and a just sentiment - one that Israel claimed made independence just.
 
Fledermaus said:
Palestinians did not acquire their independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1917
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Fledermaus said:
From everyone.

And no.

Palestinians did not acquire their independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1917

The British Egyptian Expeditionary Force, commanded by Edmund Allenby, captured Jerusalem on 9 December 1917 and occupied the whole of the Levant following the defeat of Turkish forces in Palestine at the Battle of Megiddo in September 1918 and the capitulation of Turkey on 31 October.
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"During the First World War, Britain and its allies looked for support against Germany and its ally the Ottoman Empire. Since some Arab leaders at the time were seeking independence from Ottoman rule, Anglo-Arab collaboration was a natural outcome. Accordingly, understandings were reached in 1915 between the Sherif of Mecca acting as the spokesman for the Arabs, and Sir Henry McMahon, the British High Commissioner in Egypt who negotiated for the British. The Sherif demanded recognition of independence of all Ottoman Arab territories including Palestine. McMahon, however, tried to exclude Palestine through an ambiguous reference to the extent of the areas concerned. The Sherif rejected McMahon’s attempt."
 
maxparrish said:
I don't think you are grasping what others are saying.
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I don't think you are grasping the fact that there were 1.5 MILLION Palestinians residing in this area whose rights could not be disposed of willy nilly.
 
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