The Israel v Iran War : It's First Casualty : The United States of America

[Fledermaus]

"During the First World War, Britain and its allies looked for support against Germany and its ally the Ottoman Empire. Since some Arab leaders at the time were seeking independence from Ottoman rule, Anglo-Arab collaboration was a natural outcome. Accordingly, understandings were reached in 1915 between the Sherif of Mecca acting as the spokesman for the Arabs, and Sir Henry McMahon, the British High Commissioner in Egypt who negotiated for the British. The Sherif demanded recognition of independence of all Ottoman Arab territories including Palestine. McMahon, however, tried to exclude Palestine through an ambiguous reference to the extent of the areas concerned. The Sherif rejected McMahon’s attempt."

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-206581/

The British Egyptian Expeditionary Force, commanded by Edmund Allenby, captured Jerusalem on 9 December 1917 and occupied the whole of the Levant following the defeat of Turkish forces in Palestine at the Battle of Megiddo in September 1918 and the capitulation of Turkey on 31 October.


BTW -
You keep using this nonsense "warmonger-neocrazy-war profiteer-Likudnick Axis".

What does that mean to non Conspiracy Theory people?

 

[Contumacious]

The British Egyptian Expeditionary Force, commanded by Edmund Allenby, captured Jerusalem on 9 December 1917 and occupied the whole of the Levant following the defeat of Turkish forces in Palestine at the Battle of Megiddo in September 1918 and the capitulation of Turkey on 31 October.

And that was the end of the Ottoman Empire.

What's your point?

 

[Fledermaus]

And that was the end of the Ottoman Empire.

What's your point?

Asked and answered.

BTW -

You keep using this nonsense "warmonger-neocrazy-war profiteer-Likudnick Axis".

What does that mean to non Conspiracy Theory people?

 

[Grand Mal]

HOW Can they declared themselves to be a country when there is already a country there?

What country? The British Palestinian Mandate? Palestine was a region without a government so Britain was given the task of governing it. There was not, and never has been, a country called Palestine.

 

[Contumacious]

What country? The British Palestinian Mandate? Palestine was a region without a government so Britain was given the task of governing it. There was not, and never has been, a country called Palestine.

PURE UNADULTERATED BULLCRAP

Palestine became independednt from the Ottoman Empire .

The Allies gave the UK the task of transitioning the area to a full independent country .

Former Israeli PM Golda Meir admitted that she was a Palestinian Citizen and carried their passport from 1921 until 1948,

 

[Contumacious]

What Just Happened in Iran​

By Tom Woods

June 14, 2025

Just days ago, Donald Trump said to reporters that he had told Benjamin Netanyahu that military intervention “would be inappropriate to do right now because we’re very close to a solution. Now, that could change at any moment. It could change with a phone call. But right now, I think they want to make a deal. And, if we can make a deal, [it would] save a lot of lives.”

And then we have the Israeli strikes from yesterday.

So at first, people wondered: is Netanyahu simply defying and humiliating Trump, and deliberately sabotaging ongoing negotiations?

What Just Happened in Iran - LewRockwell

From the Tom Woods Letter: Nobody can be exactly sure what’s going on here. The Russian Peace Thre... Ridenour, Ron Best Price: $26.98 Buy New $19.75 (as of 03:09 UTC - Details) Just days ago, Donald Trump said to reporters that he had told Benjamin Netanyahu that military intervention “would be...

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Folks, it appears that the Warmonger-Neocrazy-War Profiteer coalition is more powerful than our duly elected President.

It appears that the Warmonger-Neocrazy-War Profiteer coalition has AGAIN effectuated a Coup d' Etat against President Trump thereby dissolving the Mandate the WE THE PEOPLE gave to our Anti-War President

"By attacking Iran and torpedoing the negotiations, Netanyahu outplayed Trump – and the Israeli leader may well ensnare the US in a new Middle East conflict that Trump insists he does not want. Since Netanyahu unleashed multiple wars in the region after the Hamas attack on southern Israel in October 2023, he’s confident that the US will always bail him out. Even after Israel launched a war on Gaza, a two-month ground invasion of Lebanon and frequent attacks on Syria, it continues to receive virtually unlimited US weapons and political support from Washington."

Netanyahu outplayed Trump on Iran. Now the US risks being mired in another war | Mohamad Bazzi

If Trump wants to be the peacemaker he claims to be, he must negotiate a new deal with Tehran

www.theguardian.com

 

[cpwill]

You reckon Israel will share intelligence with Trump?

I do.

You reckon Israel told Trump they intended to attack Iran?

I do reckon.

 

[watsup]

"By attacking Iran and torpedoing the negotiations, Netanyahu outplayed Trump – and the Israeli leader may well ensnare the US in a new Middle East conflict that Trump insists he does not want. Since Netanyahu unleashed multiple wars in the region after the Hamas attack on southern Israel in October 2023, he’s confident that the US will always bail him out. Even after Israel launched a war on Gaza, a two-month ground invasion of Lebanon and frequent attacks on Syria, it continues to receive virtually unlimited US weapons and political support from Washington."

Netanyahu outplayed Trump on Iran. Now the US risks being mired in another war | Mohamad Bazzi

If Trump wants to be the peacemaker he claims to be, he must negotiate a new deal with Tehran

www.theguardian.com

Trump was lying, as usual. He gave the go-ahead to Netanyahu the very first time he talked to him.

 

[Fledermaus]

PURE UNADULTERATED BULLCRAP

Palestine became independednt from the Ottoman Empire .

The Allies gave the UK the task of transitioning the area to a full independent country .

Former Israeli PM Golda Meir admitted that she was a Palestinian Citizen and carried their passport from 1921 until 1948,

Ottoman -> British -> Israel/Palestine

BTW -

You keep using this nonsense "warmonger-neocrazy-war profiteer-Likudnick Axis".

What does that mean to non Conspiracy Theory people?

 

[Fledermaus]

PURE UNADULTERATED BULLCRAP

Palestine became independednt from the Ottoman Empire .

The Allies gave the UK the task of transitioning the area to a full independent country .

Former Israeli PM Golda Meir admitted that she was a Palestinian Citizen and carried their passport from 1921 until 1948,

That would be a BRITISH issued passport for the area known as Palestine.


Mandatory Palestine passports were travel documents issued by British authorities in Mandatory Palestine to residents between 1925 and 1948.

 

[Contumacious]

That would be a BRITISH issued passport for the area known as Palestine.


Mandatory Palestine passports were travel documents issued by British authorities in Mandatory Palestine to residents between 1925 and 1948.

Is that what she said or is that what you wished she have said ?

SHE SAID PALESTINIAN PASSPORT

We are done here - you just want to be an arbitrary contrarian.

 

[Grand Mal]

I do.

After Trump gave Israeli intelligence to Putin?

I do reckon.

Really. Do you reckon Israel's decision to attack was influencedby Trump?

 

[ataraxia]

What Just Happened in Iran​

By Tom Woods

June 14, 2025

Just days ago, Donald Trump said to reporters that he had told Benjamin Netanyahu that military intervention “would be inappropriate to do right now because we’re very close to a solution. Now, that could change at any moment. It could change with a phone call. But right now, I think they want to make a deal. And, if we can make a deal, [it would] save a lot of lives.”

And then we have the Israeli strikes from yesterday.

So at first, people wondered: is Netanyahu simply defying and humiliating Trump, and deliberately sabotaging ongoing negotiations?

What Just Happened in Iran - LewRockwell

From the Tom Woods Letter: Nobody can be exactly sure what’s going on here. The Russian Peace Thre... Ridenour, Ron Best Price: $26.98 Buy New $19.75 (as of 03:09 UTC - Details) Just days ago, Donald Trump said to reporters that he had told Benjamin Netanyahu that military intervention “would be...

www.lewrockwell.com

_____--------________---------________

Folks, it appears that the Warmonger-Neocrazy-War Profiteer coalition is more powerful than our duly elected President.

It appears that the Warmonger-Neocrazy-War Profiteer coalition has AGAIN effectuated a Coup d' Etat against President Trump thereby dissolving the Mandate the WE THE PEOPLE gave to our Anti-War President

Israel would not have been emboldened enough to do anything his under a Biden or Haarris administration.

 

[cpwill]

After Trump gave Israeli intelligence to Putin?

Yup.

Sharing intel is not the same as being an open book to someone. Heck, Biden shared Intel with Putin.

Really. Do you reckon Israel's decision to attack was influencedby Trump?

Indirectly at least, I think. A Harris administration would likely have put every ounce of pressure they could get away with on Israel not to.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Yet another treasonous , seditious remark.

I would normally bring up the fact that Trump isn't a ****ing king and talking shit about him isn't treason, but instead I'll just suggest you do something about it.

 

[Hamish Howl]

If it was , you would be pointing out its weaknesses.
You would have tried to show how Colonel Douglas MacGregor a former top NATO Commander is wrong about the CIA wresting authority away from their Commander in Chief. i.e. a ****ING MUTINY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MacGregor is a Russian shill. Whatever honor he might have once had was sold to the Kremlin.

Also, a Colonel isn't a top commander. Unnng.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Mark A Milley is the mother of all treasonous seditious warmongers .

You don't have the standing to shine his boots.

 

[Hamish Howl]

The British Egyptian Expeditionary Force, commanded by Edmund Allenby, captured Jerusalem on 9 December 1917 and occupied the whole of the Levant following the defeat of Turkish forces in Palestine at the Battle of Megiddo in September 1918 and the capitulation of Turkey on 31 October.


BTW -
You keep using this nonsense "warmonger-neocrazy-war profiteer-Likudnick Axis".

What does that mean to non Conspiracy Theory people?

"Jews," I think.

 

[H. E. Panqui]

What Just Happened in Iran​

By Tom Woods

June 14, 2025

Just days ago, Donald Trump said to reporters that he had told Benjamin Netanyahu that military intervention “would be inappropriate to do right now because we’re very close to a solution. Now, that could change at any moment. It could change with a phone call. But right now, I think they want to make a deal. And, if we can make a deal, [it would] save a lot of lives.”

And then we have the Israeli strikes from yesterday.

So at first, people wondered: is Netanyahu simply defying and humiliating Trump, and deliberately sabotaging ongoing negotiations?

What Just Happened in Iran - LewRockwell

From the Tom Woods Letter: Nobody can be exactly sure what’s going on here. The Russian Peace Thre... Ridenour, Ron Best Price: $26.98 Buy New $19.75 (as of 03:09 UTC - Details) Just days ago, Donald Trump said to reporters that he had told Benjamin Netanyahu that military intervention “would be...

www.lewrockwell.com

_____--------________---------________

Folks, it appears that the Warmonger-Neocrazy-War Profiteer coalition is more powerful than our duly elected President.

It appears that the Warmonger-Neocrazy-War Profiteer coalition has AGAIN effectuated a Coup d' Etat against President Trump thereby dissolving the Mandate the WE THE PEOPLE gave to our Anti-War President

You're wrong about Trump but right about Fledermous.

"Donald Trump ended his term in office just as he started it: lying about being “anti-war."

Claiming (without evidence) that he had opposed the invasion of Iraq, Trump lambasted the bipartisan foreign policy establishment for its decades of disastrous militarism. For a war-weary nation desperate for change, this was evidence enough that Trump would be different. The “anti-war” label stuck, and it would be repeated over and over, up to the very final days of his presidency.

But with four years of accumulated evidence all pointing in the same direction, it’s time to kill this myth once and for all. Sure, Donald Trump didn’t launch a new all-out ground invasion on the scale of Iraq. But he did escalate conflict in every theatre of war he inherited, repeatedly brought the country to the brink of new wars, and recklessly threw around U.S. power with no regard for the many lives it would cost. The “anti-war” candidate, like those before him, was a pro-war president.

Escalating Inherited Wars — Despite repeated PR stunts, Trump did not “bring the troops home” or “end endless wars.” In fact, Trump consistently added fuel to the fire, increasing troop levels, deepening reliance on private contractors, and dramatically scaling up aerial warfare. Where an end to endless war requires repealing the 2001 and 2002 Authorizations for Use of Military Force, Trump expanded conflicts under both. His term saw four consecutive years of growth of an already out-of-control Pentagon budget. And loosening even the minimal restrictions that were already in place, he expanded the United States’ deadly and unaccountable drone wars. Not only did Trump not end the wars he promised to, he worsened them, dropping more bombs, stoking further conflict, undermining the prospects of peace, and massively increasing the rate of civilian deaths..."

Trump the anti-war president was always a myth

Let the record show: Trump poured fuel on our endless wars and kicked diplomacy to the curb.

responsiblestatecraft.org

 

[H. E. Panqui]

Indirectly at least, I think. A Harris administration would likely have put every ounce of pressure they could get away with on Israel not to.

ffs! ugh..

AI Overview

Several sources provide estimates of how much money Kamala Harris has received from pro-Israel groups, often referred to collectively as the "Israel lobby":

• According to J Street, a pro-Israel group, the Harris-Walz campaign received over $6 million from J Street, making it the largest Jewish organizational fundraiser for the campaign.
• Sludge reported that J Street raised over $6 million for Harris, with $2.7 million contributed during the third quarter of 2024....

 

[Fledermaus]

You're wrong about Trump but right about Fledermous.

"Donald Trump ended his term in office just as he started it: lying about being “anti-war."

Claiming (without evidence) that he had opposed the invasion of Iraq, Trump lambasted the bipartisan foreign policy establishment for its decades of disastrous militarism. For a war-weary nation desperate for change, this was evidence enough that Trump would be different. The “anti-war” label stuck, and it would be repeated over and over, up to the very final days of his presidency.

But with four years of accumulated evidence all pointing in the same direction, it’s time to kill this myth once and for all. Sure, Donald Trump didn’t launch a new all-out ground invasion on the scale of Iraq. But he did escalate conflict in every theatre of war he inherited, repeatedly brought the country to the brink of new wars, and recklessly threw around U.S. power with no regard for the many lives it would cost. The “anti-war” candidate, like those before him, was a pro-war president.

Escalating Inherited Wars — Despite repeated PR stunts, Trump did not “bring the troops home” or “end endless wars.” In fact, Trump consistently added fuel to the fire, increasing troop levels, deepening reliance on private contractors, and dramatically scaling up aerial warfare. Where an end to endless war requires repealing the 2001 and 2002 Authorizations for Use of Military Force, Trump expanded conflicts under both. His term saw four consecutive years of growth of an already out-of-control Pentagon budget. And loosening even the minimal restrictions that were already in place, he expanded the United States’ deadly and unaccountable drone wars. Not only did Trump not end the wars he promised to, he worsened them, dropping more bombs, stoking further conflict, undermining the prospects of peace, and massively increasing the rate of civilian deaths..."

Trump the anti-war president was always a myth

Let the record show: Trump poured fuel on our endless wars and kicked diplomacy to the curb.

responsiblestatecraft.org

Right about Fledermous how?

 

[Contumacious]

Israel would not have been emboldened enough to do anything his under a Biden or Haarris administration.

The Biden Junta was irrelevant

Israel controls a powerful cartel within the CIA - similar to the Crossfire Hurricane" in the FBI

 

[Contumacious]

You're wrong about Trump but right about Fledermous.

"Donald Trump ended his term in office just as he started it: lying about being “anti-war."

Claiming (without evidence) that he had opposed the invasion of Iraq, Trump lambasted the bipartisan foreign policy establishment for its decades of disastrous militarism. For a war-weary nation desperate for change, this was evidence enough that Trump would be different. The “anti-war” label stuck, and it would be repeated over and over, up to the very final days of his presidency.

But with four years of accumulated evidence all pointing in the same direction, it’s time to kill this myth once and for all. Sure, Donald Trump didn’t launch a new all-out ground invasion on the scale of Iraq. But he did escalate conflict in every theatre of war he inherited, repeatedly brought the country to the brink of new wars, and recklessly threw around U.S. power with no regard for the many lives it would cost. The “anti-war” candidate, like those before him, was a pro-war president.

Escalating Inherited Wars — Despite repeated PR stunts, Trump did not “bring the troops home” or “end endless wars.” In fact, Trump consistently added fuel to the fire, increasing troop levels, deepening reliance on private contractors, and dramatically scaling up aerial warfare. Where an end to endless war requires repealing the 2001 and 2002 Authorizations for Use of Military Force, Trump expanded conflicts under both. His term saw four consecutive years of growth of an already out-of-control Pentagon budget. And loosening even the minimal restrictions that were already in place, he expanded the United States’ deadly and unaccountable drone wars. Not only did Trump not end the wars he promised to, he worsened them, dropping more bombs, stoking further conflict, undermining the prospects of peace, and massively increasing the rate of civilian deaths..."

Trump the anti-war president was always a myth

Let the record show: Trump poured fuel on our endless wars and kicked diplomacy to the curb.

responsiblestatecraft.org

Respectfully disagree.

There are 23 GOP Senators who are warmongers-neocrazies controlled by the war profiteers
In the House there are 220 Republicans versus 212 Democrats . Many of those Republicans are also warmongers....


If the President refuses to either militarily support Ukraine or Israel he risked to be ARBITRARILY IMPEACHED

In the House you only need 8 Republicans to defect

In the Senate all 50 Democrats support impeachment + 23 GOP Votes and President Trump will be history

I am certain that they will manufacture a noble sounding reason for impeachment and removal.

Secondly , as Senator Chuck Schumer stated a CIA bullet to the brain will do the job.


And so it ****ing goes.

 

[Contumacious]

You don't have the standing to shine his boots.

and that confirms that you are a treasonous seditious malcontent - a member of the Nikki Haley Camp WHO LOST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Contumacious]

I would normally bring up the fact that Trump isn't a ****ing king and talking shit about him isn't treason, but instead I'll just suggest you do something about it.

REMINDER
The Mother of all corrupt warmongers, neocrazies controlled by war profiteers LOST