The hypocrisy of the gop strikes again in Texas.

[Questerr]

I'll take your word for it. I have no experience with the backasswards deep south like you do. Still, what blacks were doing is not what the op did so this is at best a weak attempt at re-railing.

You don’t know basic American history? Wow, imagine announcing you are that ignorant in a debate.

 

[bongsaway]

I agree, the kid should not be expelled. He should have gotten the shit kicked out of him though. Free speech never meant free of consequences.

Well according to your theory, Kirk should have gotten the shit kicked out of him since he's said some pretty bad things about groups of people. The reason he didn't, people just like him were his audience. I saw one of his turning point episodes where an audience member asked him, when do we get to start shooting Democrats...and the guy was dead serious. Only at a republican gathering do we hear that kind of crap. Punch him in the face, I'll pay your legal bills.

Free speech for me but not for thee.

 

[bullseyelqcs]

Well, be honest. They said: Charlie Kirk DID NOT DESERVE TO BE KILLED buuuuuuut

Buuuut what? Charlie Kirk didn't deserved to be killed, buuuut he wasn't the saint he's being portrayed as either?

See, heres the thing......I can believe that Charlie Kirk was a racist misogynist piece of shit and still not think that he deserved to die. That doesn't mean that when one of his supporters tries to paint a picture of him that I don't think is accurate that by pointing out what I think are inconsistencies in their logic I am advocating for him to have been killed. The two issues really are not one and the same.

 

[Peacenik]

Nobody ever deserves to be killed.

Peaceful coexistence is preferable.

 

[CSharp]

You don’t know basic American history? Wow, imagine announcing you are that ignorant in a debate.

We aren't debating Jim Crow. If we were, I would sit that one out.

 

[j brown's body]

I agree, the kid should not be expelled. He should have gotten the shit kicked out of him though. Free speech never meant free of consequences.

This Maga preoccupation with violence as a solution to problems is disconcerting.

 

[bullseyelqcs]

And since saying that, they have gone out of their way to post every out of context remark they can find to justify what happened to him

That's where you are wrong. I can discuss the merits of his comments (or lack thereof, as it may be) and still not be using them as a justification for what I think was a horrible act. His word are his words. The internet never forgets, and we will have them to discuss for the rest of time. Some people claim out of context, others say perfectly in context. That, however, isn't a discussion about whether he deserved to die. The answer to that question if flatly no.

Then why point them out?

Because some people are trying to paint a picture of Kirk that others don't agree with. That is going to lead to some discussion about his comments. Not sure why that is confusing to you.

Yeah, well, whenever you libs are ready to start, let me know.

I already have. I've been completely honest in my comments here. You telling me you haven't? That's not really helpful in the context of discussion. Just a thought.

 

[j brown's body]

Youguys have been tripping over yourselves for nearly two weeks claiming that Kirk had it coming so your whining here is laughable.

Its weird to see defenders of Kirk claiming that speech has consequences. The lack of self-awareness is palpable.

 

[Questerr]

We aren't debating Jim Crow. If we were, I would sit that one out.

You would sit it out rather than condemning it as evil committed by racist white conservative southerners?

 

[bongsaway]

Dumb liberal bigots should not be censored.
They should be given their own TV show so that we can laugh at them......like Jimmy Kimmel

Like how we all laughed when abc put kimmel back on the air. It's the right who wanted him removed, you know the party that is all about law and order, the constitution and small government.

 

[bongsaway]

Sure. But the kid was begging for a beating.

If he had a gun and shot and killed a guy who was attempted to deliver said ass beating, would he be guilty or is it a clear case of stand your ground?

Edit. it's like saying she was asking to be raped because of what she was wearing.

 

[CSharp]

If he had a gun and shot and killed a guy who was attempted to deliver said ass beating, would he be guilty or is it a clear case of stand your ground?

Edit. it's like saying she was asking to be raped because of what she was wearing.

I'm not a lawyer and I don't pretend to be. What I do know is that the kid was intentionally trying to incite a response. There is no other explanation that doesn't strain credibility.

 

[bongsaway]

You do whatever mental gymnastics you want to condone douchery. I can't stand it. So, mr internet tough guy, you keep provoking people to punch you in the face - don't be surprised when someone finally does it.

Kirk said the second amendment comes with consequences and some people dying from guns is one of them. He's a prophet. Kirk was full of douchery, it was his bread and butter.

 

[Questerr]

I'm not a lawyer and I don't pretend to be. What I do know is that the kid was intentionally trying to incite a response. There is no other explanation that doesn't strain credibility.

So were the black activists who sat at lunch counters or went into white-only cavities in the Jim Crow south. Should they have been assaulted?

 

[bongsaway]

I'm not a lawyer and I don't pretend to be. What I do know is that the kid was intentionally trying to incite a response. There is no other explanation that doesn't strain credibility.

Go team go said the cheering squad. Should they have the shit kicked out of them? They were obviously trying to invoke a response. Was trump on 1/6 trying to evoke a response from his listeners?

 

[Craig234]

Well, be honest. They said: Charlie Kirk DID NOT DESERVE TO BE KILLED buuuuuuut

And?

 

[Craig234]

I'll just mention a similar historic case. Malcolm X was the leading spokesperson for the 'Nation of Islam', passionately arguing for it. When JFK was assassinated, he said it was 'the chickens coming home to roost', in a statement that appeared to indicate in some justification for the assassination. This of course created huge offense.

It led to his suspension, ordered to remain silent, and break from the organization, and eventual murder himself by that organization.

 

[CSharp]

Go team go said the cheering squad. Should they have the shit kicked out of them? They were obviously trying to invoke a response. Was trump on 1/6 trying to evoke a response from his listeners?

Your attempt at reductio ad absurdum is cute but still a swing and a miss.

 

[Citizen]

You do whatever mental gymnastics you want to condone douchery. I can't stand it. So, mr internet tough guy, you keep provoking people to punch you in the face - don't be surprised when someone finally does it.

So… Charlie Kirk provoked Tyler to shoot him with his hate speech? Is that what you are saying?

 

[Craig234]

Maybe because I don't see them everywhere I look.

everywhere anywhere except against white people

 

[CSharp]

everywhere anywhere except against white people

Whatever you need to tell yourself dude.

 

[Craig234]

So were the black activists who sat at lunch counters or went into white-only cavities in the Jim Crow south. Should they have been assaulted?

Perhaps an even better example is the Freedom Riders, who were assaulted by racist mobs while the police looked on.

 

[bongsaway]

Your attempt at reductio ad absurdum is cute but still a swing and a miss.

Uh huh, no thoughts about the patriots of 1/6?

 

[Craig234]

Whatever you need to tell yourself dude.

Show me your posts concerned about racism against anyone but whites, or the point is made.

 

[CSharp]

So… Charlie Kirk provoked Tyler to shoot him with his hate speech? Is that what you are saying?

No that's not what I'm saying. First, what this kid did was not what kirk was doing. Second, I said the kid deserved an ass kicking (he did), I did not say nor implied he should be killed.