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The Hunter Biden is not the Big Story. Freedom of Speech is.

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I won’t bother linking you to the first amendment.

The story of Hunter’s grifting is not the big story:

There are other more troubling issues. ABC news has had this info since early 2019 and sat on it, and it took a half blind computer repairman in a dingy shop to do what our FBI wouldn’t do. Instead, the FBI destroyed the laptop.

IMO, the most chilling aspect of the entire thing is the assault on free speech and the flow of information. This should be the biggest issue to anyone who values a (mostly) uniquely American right. The “media” and tech pretty much in your face closed ranks on distributing the story because it hurts their candidate. How can anyone exercising their free speech here just shrug this off as it is happening in real time the bigger world?

We used to be a “Hey **** off, buddy! I have a right to know!” culture. Has our demand for freedom of speech been bred out of us?
 

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Hunter isn't running for president.

He isn't running for anything as far as I know.
 

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I won’t bother linking you to the first amendment.

The story of Hunter’s grifting is not the big story:

There are other more troubling issues. ABC news has had this info since early 2019 and sat on it, and it took a half blind computer repairman in a dingy shop to do what our FBI wouldn’t do. Instead, the FBI destroyed the laptop.

IMO, the most chilling aspect of the entire thing is the assault on free speech and the flow of information. This should be the biggest issue to anyone who values a (mostly) uniquely American right. The “media” and tech pretty much in your face closed ranks on distributing the story because it hurts their candidate. How can anyone exercising their free speech here just shrug this off as it is happening in real time the bigger world?

We used to be a “Hey **** off, buddy! I have a right to know!” culture. Has our demand for freedom of speech been bred out of us?
The FBI destroyed the laptop???

Do you have a source for that?
 

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I won’t bother linking you to the first amendment.

The story of Hunter’s grifting is not the big story:

There are other more troubling issues. ABC news has had this info since early 2019 and sat on it, and it took a half blind computer repairman in a dingy shop to do what our FBI wouldn’t do. Instead, the FBI destroyed the laptop.

IMO, the most chilling aspect of the entire thing is the assault on free speech and the flow of information. This should be the biggest issue to anyone who values a (mostly) uniquely American right. The “media” and tech pretty much in your face closed ranks on distributing the story because it hurts their candidate. How can anyone exercising their free speech here just shrug this off as it is happening in real time the bigger world?

We used to be a “Hey **** off, buddy! I have a right to know!” culture. Has our demand for freedom of speech been bred out of us?

FBI destroyed the computer? Link?
 

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NYP publishes a powerful dossier against the Biden family.
Reaction from the media: Oh, Yes! Cool, but hell with this dossier about official corruption, let's follow in the footsteps of the owners of the repair shop where the laptop was seized! And they follow.
This is all you need to know about the free press.
 

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I won’t bother linking you to the first amendment.

The story of Hunter’s grifting is not the big story:

There are other more troubling issues. ABC news has had this info since early 2019 and sat on it, and it took a half blind computer repairman in a dingy shop to do what our FBI wouldn’t do. Instead, the FBI destroyed the laptop.

IMO, the most chilling aspect of the entire thing is the assault on free speech and the flow of information. This should be the biggest issue to anyone who values a (mostly) uniquely American right. The “media” and tech pretty much in your face closed ranks on distributing the story because it hurts their candidate. How can anyone exercising their free speech here just shrug this off as it is happening in real time the bigger world?

We used to be a “Hey **** off, buddy! I have a right to know!” culture. Has our demand for freedom of speech been bred out of us?
News outlets and social media aren't under any obligation to assist in the spread of obvious disinformation.
 

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Hunter isn't running for president.

He isn't running for anything as far as I know.
It shows the trumpists' desperation. Their unmasking "scandal" failed so now they're losing their shit because no fake October surprise can save them.
 

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I won’t bother linking you to the first amendment.

The story of Hunter’s grifting is not the big story:

There are other more troubling issues. ABC news has had this info since early 2019 and sat on it, and it took a half blind computer repairman in a dingy shop to do what our FBI wouldn’t do. Instead, the FBI destroyed the laptop.

IMO, the most chilling aspect of the entire thing is the assault on free speech and the flow of information. This should be the biggest issue to anyone who values a (mostly) uniquely American right. The “media” and tech pretty much in your face closed ranks on distributing the story because it hurts their candidate. How can anyone exercising their free speech here just shrug this off as it is happening in real time the bigger world?

We used to be a “Hey **** off, buddy! I have a right to know!” culture. Has our demand for freedom of speech been bred out of us?
For maybe the millionth time...Our freedom of speech rights protect us from government stopping what we say or hear. Private organizations are more likely to run afoul of free speech laws (libel/slander) by putting out info than by sitting on unverified info.
 

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I won’t bother linking you to the first amendment.

The story of Hunter’s grifting is not the big story:

There are other more troubling issues. ABC news has had this info since early 2019 and sat on it, and it took a half blind computer repairman in a dingy shop to do what our FBI wouldn’t do. Instead, the FBI destroyed the laptop.

IMO, the most chilling aspect of the entire thing is the assault on free speech and the flow of information. This should be the biggest issue to anyone who values a (mostly) uniquely American right. The “media” and tech pretty much in your face closed ranks on distributing the story because it hurts their candidate. How can anyone exercising their free speech here just shrug this off as it is happening in real time the bigger world?

We used to be a “Hey **** off, buddy! I have a right to know!” culture. Has our demand for freedom of speech been bred out of us?

Oh look, another Trumpist pretending to care about the constitution without knowing what the **** he's running his mouth about.

The 1st Amd. protects against government action against private individuals based on the content of their speech, and to a much lesser extent, against time and place restrictions.

The 1st Amd. is not a right for lying Trumpists to force private companies to disseminate their hoaxes.




How Twitter and Facebook’s attempt to squelch a dubious Biden story backfired
Such actions can only call attention to how lopsided and largely unaccountable the left’s own power is in the cultural sphere.
lol. Trumpists being poutraged that a private company didn't assist them in spreading Russian disinfo is not "backfiring". Then again, you're the guy who started the thread insisting that the fact of one journalist bitching that the NYT didn't want to cover his stuff anymore was actually the NYT "imploding". . .

So sick of listening to righties whine and moan that left-lean media won't carry their anti-left agenda for them.
 

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Oh look, another Trumpist pretending to care about the constitution without knowing what the **** he's running his mouth about.

The 1st Amd. protects against government action against private individuals based on the content of their speech, and to a much lesser extent, against time and place restrictions.

The 1st Amd. is not a right for lying Trumpists to force private companies to disseminate their hoaxes.

lol. Trumpists being poutraged that a private company didn't assist them in spreading Russian disinfo is not "backfiring". Then again, you're the guy who started the thread insisting that the fact of one journalist bitching that the NYT didn't want to cover his stuff anymore was actually the NYT "imploding". . .

So sick of listening to righties whine and moan that left-lean media won't carry their anti-left agenda for them.

Its good we can all witness the real anti free speech fascists out front and center. Thanks P

Oh and last night the 1st device emails were corroborated by another guy with a separate account.

Emails Show Hunter Biden Helped Arrange White House Meeting for CCP Elites

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The new emails detail how Hunter Biden and his associates used their access to Hunter's father, Vice President Joe Biden, to arrange private White House meetings for clients and investors. According to Breitbart, Biden and his business associates secured a "private, off-the-books" meeting between Joe Biden and a delegation of Chinese investors and Communist Party officials. A 2011 email reportedly includes a discussion of developing relations with "China Inc." and a "new push on soft diplomacy for the Chinese."

The emails were turned over to Peter Schweizer by Bevan Cooney, a former business associate of Hunter Biden who is currently behind bars for a bond fraud investment scheme. Cooney contacted Schweizer after reading Schweizer's book Secret Empires, exposing how corrupt politicians abuse their office to enrich themselves and their families. Breitbart says Cooney believes he was the "fall guy" for the bond investment scheme and that Hunter Biden and another associate, Devon Archer, have unfairly avoided responsibility for their involvement. "

Back to the first device. Texts again indicate the Biden crime family was in deep....For decades.

Unlike Pop, I Won’t Make You Give Me Half Your Salary’

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Are you still pushing an imaginary Russian hoax and pee tape too?
 

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His media empire has the most popular cable news, the WSJ, Marketwatch the NYPost. His has/had the large media empire, and very conservative. The other large media companies are far more widely owned and less controlled directed by one person. Disney for example is not a large pusher of liberal ideals, just a company out to make money
 

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His media empire has the most popular cable news, the WSJ, Marketwatch the NYPost. His has/had the large media empire, and very conservative. The other large media companies are far more widely owned and less controlled directed by one person. Disney for example is not a large pusher of liberal ideals, just a company out to make money
Yes, and . . . ?
 

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I believe you missed the point of my #6.
Certainly not

Another complaint on how powerful the left/liberals are when it comes to the media.

Despite not owning or controlling the major media outlets and producers
 

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I won’t bother linking you to the first amendment.

The story of Hunter’s grifting is not the big story:

There are other more troubling issues. ABC news has had this info since early 2019 and sat on it, and it took a half blind computer repairman in a dingy shop to do what our FBI wouldn’t do. Instead, the FBI destroyed the laptop.

IMO, the most chilling aspect of the entire thing is the assault on free speech and the flow of information. This should be the biggest issue to anyone who values a (mostly) uniquely American right. The “media” and tech pretty much in your face closed ranks on distributing the story because it hurts their candidate. How can anyone exercising their free speech here just shrug this off as it is happening in real time the bigger world?

We used to be a “Hey **** off, buddy! I have a right to know!” culture. Has our demand for freedom of speech been bred out of us?

The amount ignorance this is bringing out is amusing..
 

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Certainly not

Another complaint on how powerful the left/liberals are when it comes to the media.

Despite not owning or controlling the major media outlets and producers
". . . What it does represent is something the right has becoming keenly alive to: the left’s exercise of power over cultural spaces where right-wingers are being driven toward extinction. That power isn’t new, of course, but for a long time, its practical effect was mostly a matter of focus, or at worst, as social psychologist Jonathan Haidt puts it, asking “Can I believe it?” about narratives that flattered left-wing views, and “Must I believe it?” about those that favored the right. . . . "
 

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". . . What it does represent is something the right has becoming keenly alive to: the left’s exercise of power over cultural spaces where right-wingers are being driven toward extinction. That power isn’t new, of course, but for a long time, its practical effect was mostly a matter of focus, or at worst, as social psychologist Jonathan Haidt puts it, asking “Can I believe it?” about narratives that flattered left-wing views, and “Must I believe it?” about those that favored the right. . . . "
Fox News, WSJ, Market Watch, NY Post, Washington Times, Disney and ABC, talk radio being dominated by conservative groups

Yep, those darn liberal socialist have control over the US media. Why Democracy Now and Common Dreams are the most watched and most influential media outlets in the US. The WSJ pales in comparison
 

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Fox News, WSJ, Market Watch, NY Post, Washington Times, Disney and ABC, talk radio being dominated by conservative groups

Yep, those darn liberal socialist have control over the US media. Why Democracy Now and Common Dreams are the most watched and most influential media outlets in the US. The WSJ pales in comparison
And none of those match Google, Facebook or Twitter as gateways to the public space.
 

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I won’t bother linking you to the first amendment.

The story of Hunter’s grifting is not the big story:

There are other more troubling issues. ABC news has had this info since early 2019 and sat on it, and it took a half blind computer repairman in a dingy shop to do what our FBI wouldn’t do. Instead, the FBI destroyed the laptop.

IMO, the most chilling aspect of the entire thing is the assault on free speech and the flow of information. This should be the biggest issue to anyone who values a (mostly) uniquely American right. The “media” and tech pretty much in your face closed ranks on distributing the story because it hurts their candidate. How can anyone exercising their free speech here just shrug this off as it is happening in real time the bigger world?

We used to be a “Hey **** off, buddy! I have a right to know!” culture. Has our demand for freedom of speech been bred out of us?
If the Republicans think there's a story here, then they should have allowed witnesses during the President's impeachment trial and made the case that the President was somehow "justified" in requesting the Ukrainians to investigate the matter. That they saw fit not to do so leads me to assume that they weren't interested in finding the truth... wherever it led.
 

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Hunter isn't running for president.

He isn't running for anything as far as I know.
Using your political office for personal gain is a crime. Dude, get a ****ing clue. Joe Biden did just that, and the media and other are trying to stifle discussion and publishing that facts of this crime to benefit Hunter and the Biden family in general.
 
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