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The Guns of August

Edit: Wait, never mind. The New York Times is beneath my discussion.

Yes, exactly. The words were so big I couldn't read past "The New York."
 
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well since you say it is so good, I now know i do not have to waste my time reading the trash printed by that rag
 
*Note to self, never read an article by a Conservative reporter that is posted here*
 
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No, it ties the current political rhetoric with past happenings. It's called using history. Pointing out that someone else did something horrible does nothing for your argument. It's the typical right wing knee jerk move to justify what is coming down the pike. This isn't about disagreeing and you know it.
 

Now pray do tell, where are all the guns at these rallys again? Then maybe you can explain why death threats against the sitting potus has went up 400%?
 
formerroadie said:
Pointing out that someone else did something horrible does nothing for your argument.
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Your equating a citizen excercising his rights with a vicious death threat from a nutbag is the problem here. This whole episode has been mischaracterized from the beginning. The MSNBC reporter tried to characterize it as a racial issue while the camera focused on the black guy carrying his rifle(near the event in protest to government expansion, Not at the event as was portrayed). She did not even bother to look at her own tape.

This is the double standard all over again.
 
FreeTh!nk3r said:
Then maybe you can explain why death threats against the sitting potus has went up 400%?
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You really think people will not react when they perceive they are being directly threatened when you mess with their money and health? That is their future these politicians are playing with. Of course some are going to go over the edge.

Where have you been?
 
For everyone that didn't want to read it, you should have. The author of op-ed invoked the Timothy McVeigh scenario. The only problem I have with that, is that ole Timmy used a truck load of fertilizer to blow up a building, not a pistol

I'm all for stopping people from showing up with a couple thousand pounds of ammonium nitrate in a panel truck. Count me in on that one.
 
FreeTh!nk3r said:
Then maybe you can explain why death threats against the sitting potus has went up 400%?
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Because he's a facist asshole. Facism ain't gonna sell in America.
 

Did you read the article? I doubt it. This is more than just exercising of one's rights. If the right doesn't recognize that the fringe are coming out and that the dangerous ones are among them, they will look the fool if something bad happens. Given the current climate and the history of said militias, it seems to me that Republican elected officials would learn, but they haven't. The old white dudes have a short memory.

So, here is some of the quotes just to help you since you didn't seem to click on the link and actually read:




So we are to ignore the same people that warned us before McVeigh killed innocent civilians? Ok, let's do that.... :doh



 

Once again, the right winger misses the point. SURPRISE! :doh
 
The point is, all right wingers are idiots, unless they support Obama's plans.

We know where you stand, and what your opinions are gonna be, if we are curious, we merely need to scan Huffy's post and read what you are to think that day.
 
I find it pretty disturbing that the left is trying to associate gun owners with terrorists..

I've noticed it being referenced more and more on this forum.. and it's definitely being echoed in the media a lot more.

My owning a firearm doesn't make me a terrorist, sorry.
 
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Well, to play devil's advocate here, terrorism is any group of people who use terror as a means to their end game, that of course could be seen by people who really don't understand or acknowledge what this country, it's rights, and culture are about. Our side is seen as "anti-change", I would say ****ing - a -right we're anti-change, I don't want to change to a statist nanny government with a bunch of idiots taking everything over, attempting to violate my liberties in "my best interest", taking more of my money while shrining my legal market, outsourcing my energy and making it more expensive to produce, making snide comments about people who defend their rights, and actually assuming that statism is the most intelligent position on the planet, yes, we are anti-"change". The reason these idiots in Washington and their lapdogs have to extend the terrorist label to legitimate gun owners and dissenters is exactly because they live in terror every day, because they know they aren't the majority, they know they won't give up, and they know that the "terrorists" on the right are a growing number as the population matures, own the firearms, and will not capitulate to a massive takeover of our country.
 
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This is a true statement
“Well, I’m troubled any time when we stop having confidence in our government,” the senator said, “but we’ve earned it.”
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I read that article, it's pretty sick. Trying to associate exercise of our rights with acts of terrorism is as low as you can go. And those who do it are unbelievably dangerous, well more dangerous than a few guys lawfully open carrying at an event. Well more.

This is also true

“terrorism obviously poses a serious threat,” but then went on to explain that the nation had worse threats to worry about: “There is a far greater fear that is present in this country, and that is fear of our own government.”
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When the government fears the People you have liberty, when the People fear the government you have tyranny. Plain and simple. The guy talks that plain truth on this one. And going after him for trying to temper an anti-terrorist law (domestic) after Oklahoma City...probably smart move. He was looking to properly limit government, not use travesty as an excuse to expand the powers of the government beyond the constraints of the Constitution.

We put up with Bush doing it, leading us into useless occupational and neigh endless war which we're still wasting money and lives on today. And now you want to jump on the same bandwagon. OMG...There's a guy open carrying...hey everybody let's freak out and turn this molehill into the largest mountain ever! Why people are exercising their rights, we need to regulate this. We can't have people exercising their rights, think about how dangerous it is for a man to stand with a sign while open carrying and acting calm and responsible without making any threats or acting in a threatening manner. Why that's right out! How dare he! Let's make laws to infringe upon the rights and liberties of the individual!

Sickening. People need to grow up and learn what it means to be free.
 
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