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The FLOOD of Noah and the growing evidence.

Elora said:
So, you're saying the Bible contradicts itself/lies...got it...
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I'm saying GOD created light, and then later HE created a source for that light. I'm saying GOD created EVERYTHING that exists --- EVERYTHING except HIMSELF. And GOD has ALWAYS existed.
 
calamity said:
Uh, I understand what fossils are. Hint: not a mummy.
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Correct, mummies were prepaired and were not just thrust into the dirt and exposed to water infiltration, and errosion, and swings in temperature for 1000000 years, 90.000,000 -- 300,000,000 years.
 
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This is just me, but the great flood stories exists in too many cultures for a great flood to have not happened.
I suspect the flooding of the Black Sea, and the farms and cities around the lake that existed, would have been catastrophic enough to
stay in oral tradition long enough to be recorded when we began to write.
If you lived in the bottom of the Black Sea valley, and loaded all of your domesticated animals on a barge,
the place you would end up (at the current level of the Black sea), would be the mountains from where you had been.
 
longview said:
This is just me, but the great flood stories exists in too many cultures for a great flood to have not happened.
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Maybe that's because most cultures lived in or near flood plains. Facepalm.
 
longview said:
This is just me, but the great flood stories exists in too many cultures for a great flood to have not happened.
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we know it didn't happen. We know this because of biology, physics, geology and hydrodynamics.
longview said:
I suspect the flooding of the Black Sea, and the farms and cities around the lake that existed, would have been catastrophic enough to
stay in oral tradition long enough to be recorded when we began to write.
If you lived in the bottom of the Black Sea valley, and loaded all of your domesticated animals on a barge,
the place you would end up (at the current level of the Black sea), would be the mountains from where you had been.
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All civilizations at that time lived on or near large water sources, which.................................flood. At no point in earths history has there ever been a global flood.
 
rahl said:
All civilizations at that time lived on or near large water sources, which.................................flood. At no point in earths history has there ever been a global flood.
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And there are just too many similarities to the stories for it to be a coincidence...

The many Flood legends existed long before these people were exposed to the Bible. Yet, the legends have some basic points in common with the Biblical account of the Deluge.

Some legends mention violent giants living on the earth before the Flood. Comparably, the Bible indicates that before the Deluge disobedient angels materialized fleshly bodies, cohabited with women, and produced a race of giants called Nephilim.—Genesis 6:1-4; 2 Peter 2:4, 5.

Flood legends usually indicate that one man was warned about a coming deluge of divine origin. According to the Bible, Jehovah God warned Noah that He would destroy wicked and violent ones. God told Noah: “The end of all flesh has come before me, because the earth is full of violence as a result of them; and here I am bringing them to ruin together with the earth.”—Genesis 6:13.

Legends concerning the Flood generally indicate that it brought about global destruction. Similarly, the Bible says: “The waters overwhelmed the earth so greatly that all the tall mountains that were under the whole heavens came to be covered. Everything in which the breath of the force of life was active in its nostrils, namely, all that were on the dry ground, died.”—Genesis 7:19, 22.

Most Flood legends say that a man survived the Deluge along with one or more other persons. Many legends have him taking refuge in a boat he had built, and they have it land on a mountain. Comparably, the Scriptures say that Noah built an ark. They also state: “Only Noah and those who were with him in the ark kept on surviving.” (Genesis 6:5-8; 7:23) According to the Bible, after the Deluge “the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat,” where Noah and his family disembarked. (Genesis 8:4, 15-18) Legends also indicate that Flood survivors started to repopulate the earth, as the Bible shows that Noah’s family did.—Genesis 9:1; 10:1.
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https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1992041?q=flood+myths&p=sen
 
Elora said:
And there are just too many similarities to the stories for it to be a coincidence...
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Yea, water sources flooding is pretty similar at every body of water. That’s part of that science stuff called physics and hydrodynamics.

The facts remain. At no point in earths history has there ever been a global flood.
 
rahl said:
Yea, water sources flooding is pretty similar at every body of water. That’s part of that science stuff called physics and hydrodynamics.

The facts remain. At no point in earths history has there ever been a global flood.
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Uh huh...lol...
 
Elora said:
Uh huh...lol...
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You are certainly welcome to publish your scientific paper which disproves physics, geology, biology and hydrodynamics. Your Nobel prize awaits lol.

Meanwhile we know empirically, based on the above mentioned fields of science, that at no time in earths history was there ever a global flood.
 
rahl said:
You are certainly welcome to publish your scientific paper which disproves physics, geology, biology and hydrodynamics. Your Nobel prize awaits lol.

Meanwhile we know empirically, based on the above mentioned fields of science, that at no time in earths history was there ever a global flood.
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You are welcome to address the similarities to the Biblical account...
 
Elora said:
You are welcome to address the similarities to the Biblical account...
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I did. Water sources flood. All people’s lives near water sources.

Meanwhile, we know empirically that at no time was there ever a global flood. We know this because of biology, geology, physics and hydrodynamics.
 
rahl said:
I did. Water sources flood. All people’s lives near water sources.

Meanwhile, we know empirically that at no time was there ever a global flood. We know this because of biology, geology, physics and hydrodynamics.
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lol...the similarities are more far reaching than a flood...nice try, though...
 
rahl said:
we know it didn't happen. We know this because of biology, physics, geology and hydrodynamics.

All civilizations at that time lived on or near large water sources, which.................................flood. At no point in earths history has there ever been a global flood.
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From the perspective of a pre horse people, the “world” was quite a bit smaller!
If their entire world existed in the Black Sea basin, and was flooded, their entire world flooded.
 
Elora said:
lol...the similarities are more far reaching than a flood...nice try, though...
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No they aren’t. We know that at no time in earths history was there ever a global flood. You could easily prove there was by presenting your scientific paper which disproves biology, geology, physics and hydrodynamics.
 
longview said:
From the perspective of a pre horse people, the “world” was quite a bit smaller!
If their entire world existed in the Black Sea basin, and was flooded, their entire world flooded.
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Having no relevance to anything i posted. Which was that at no point in earths history has there ever been a global flood.
 
Elora said:
lol...the similarities are more far reaching than a flood...nice try, though...
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It seems like in the epic of Gilgamesh, he seeks out a man who survived the great flood called Noah, in his quest for eternal life.
 
rahl said:
No they aren’t. We know that at no time in earths history was there ever a global flood. You could easily prove there was by presenting your scientific paper which disproves biology, geology, physics and hydrodynamics.
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We know they are because I just pointed them out to you in post #259...
 
longview said:
It seems like in the epic of Gilgamesh, he seeks out a man who survived the great flood called Noah, in his quest for eternal life.
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Yes, many similarities even though the Babylonians had no access to the account of Noah...

The Babylonian Epic of Gilgamesh contains many details. According to it, Gilgamesh visited his ancestor Utnapishtim, who had been granted eternal life after surviving the Flood. In the ensuing conversation, Utnapishtim explained that he was told to build a ship and take cattle, wild beasts, and his family into it. He built the ship as a huge cube 200 feet [60 m] on each side, with six floors. He tells Gilgamesh that the storm lasted six days and six nights, and then he says: “When the seventh day arrived, the hurricane, the Deluge, the shock of battle was broken, which had smitten like an army. The sea became calm, the cyclone died away, the Deluge ceased. I looked upon the sea and the sound of voices had ended. And all mankind had turned to clay.”

After the vessel grounded on Mount Nisir, Utnapishtim released a dove that returned to the boat when it could not find a resting-place. This was followed by a swallow that also returned. A raven was then released, and when it did not return, he knew that the water had subsided. Utnapishtim then released the animals and offered a sacrifice.
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https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1992041?q=flood+myths&p=sen
 
Elora said:
We know they are because I just pointed them out to you in post #259...
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Which I refuted by pointing out that every civilization at the time was near water. And water sources flood. I also pointed out that empirically, we know at no point has the earth ever been globally flooded. It’s not debatable. Your only recourse would be to disprove biology, geology, physics and hydrodynamics.
 
rahl said:
Which I refuted by pointing out that every civilization at the time was near water. And water sources flood. I also pointed out that empirically, we know at no point has the earth ever been globally flooded. It’s not debatable. Your only recourse would be to disprove biology, geology, physics and hydrodynamics.
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No, you did not address the similarities...that is a lie...it is not debatable...
 
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