The FBI Recovered 11 Sets Of Classified Documents, Including Some Marked Top Secret, From Mar-a-Lago

[jnug]

In the case of State Department information, she didn't have to - she "owned" it as the OCA, and was free to do with it as she pleased, including implicitly declassifying it by putting it into an unclass email. That's why the early numbers of her classified emails - which were very high - got winnowed way down; most of it was State Department information, and so she had the legal authority to put it there, even if doing so wasn't wise. She didn't have the authority to put NGA, NSA, CIA, DOD, or other department's information on there, however, and that's where she ran into problems.

She owned nothing as Donald owns nothing. They are our documents, not theirs. They are mere public servants all the way up and including the President. He is not King and this is not a monarchy. Your entire argument which you appear to be making based on a misunderstanding of the overarching principle that trumps the language of every specific law....THAT BEING THAT WE ARE NOT A MONARCHY.

Hillary is already out of it, and isn't going to "go down the tubes", as the FBI already decided not to prosecute her for breaking the law.

So is Donnie. He just doesn't know it yet.

Grossly Negligent, I think, would be the best description - though the FBI decided to invent a new standard of "extremely careless" whole cloth.

Whatever

We don't know exactly how many documents there were, of what type. However, we also don't know that any of them were actually classified, regardless of how they were marked. Just as HIllary's emails that were State Department material were downgraded by her use of it, Trump could have decided to use and store Top Secret information in an unsecure space, and made it unclassified if he so wished.

Hillary never claimed that "her use" of them created an automatic downgrade.

It's not an exact equivalency, agreed. For example, from what we currently know, Hillary definitely broke the law, and Trump may have broken the law, and, unfortunately, the person we would need to tell us whether or not he did... is Trump; who is, shall we say, not exactly a reliable witness.

IMO, they both broke the law. However it is also my opinion that Donnie broke it many times more than Hillary and was clearly a greater danger to National Security than Hillary ever thought of being.

There need be none. It was entirely his decision to make, as he chose to make it.

He can make it but he cannot make it and not record it. He cannot make it IN HIS OWN MIND. The entire concept of the country as a Democratic Republic and the entire concept of National Security collapses under the weight of such an argument which is in part why your argument is poppycock. Again Its not a Monarchy. The President is not a king and all the language in every statute we have as poorly or as well written as they are bows to that principle.

Which does not ultimately tell us one way or the other.

But it does. If they were marked as declassified all of those entries on the receipt that say classified document or TS/SCI document or top secret document would instead be categorized as Declassified documents because they WOULD HAVE BEEN MARKED AS DECLASSIFIED.

Yup. That's sort of the problem. He could have decided "Yeah, all this is fine", and that decision is all that would have been needed.

But he cannot decide to simply do it IN HIS OWN MIND.

Hillary resisted turning over material for months, had her server wiped rather than obey direction to turn it over, and had an aid physically destroy her other devices in an attempt to destroy the data rather than turn it over.

SHE DID NOT RESIST SUBPOENAS.

I don't think in this case I would say the coverup was worse than the crime, but, agreed that Trump is more dangerous to the nation, now.

And we whole we argue about declassification, none of the statutes listed in the warrant are about classified documents.

 

[element94]

You commies are aware that a president can declassify any document, right?

A confederate president can only declassify confederate documents.

 

[element94]

For everything MAGAts bitch about when it comes to politicians or the so-called 'Deep State', Trump is ten times worse. The fact you people don't see that is mind-boggling.

They see it. And they desire it.

 

[cpwill]

She owned nothing as Donald owns nothing. They are our documents, not theirs. They are mere public servants all the way up and including the President. He is not King and this is not a monarchy. Your entire argument which you appear to be making based on a misunderstanding of the overarching principle that trumps the language of every specific law....THAT BEING THAT WE ARE NOT A MONARCHY.

So is Donnie. He just doesn't know it yet.

Whatever

Hillary never claimed that "her use" of them created an automatic downgrade.

IMO, they both broke the law. However it is also my opinion that Donnie broke it many times more than Hillary and was clearly a greater danger to National Security than Hillary ever thought of being.

He can make it but he cannot make it and not record it. He cannot make it IN HIS OWN MIND. The entire concept of the country as a Democratic Republic and the entire concept of National Security collapses under the weight of such an argument which is in part why your argument is poppycock. Again Its not a Monarchy. The President is not a king and all the language in every statute we have as poorly or as well written as they are bows to that principle.

But it does. If they were marked as declassified all of those entries on the receipt that say classified document or TS/SCI document or top secret document would instead be categorized as Declassified documents because they WOULD HAVE BEEN MARKED AS DECLASSIFIED.

But he cannot decide to simply do it IN HIS OWN MIND.

He can, in fact. Classification Authority flows from the President, and he can make what decision he or she likes with it.

That doesn't make us a monarchy any more that the President's status as Commander in Chief does.

SHE DID NOT RESIST SUBPOENAS.

Uh, that's pretty much the definition of "resisting".

And we whole we argue about declassification, none of the statutes listed in the warrant are about classified documents.

That's what the Espionage Act is in reference to.

 

[CaughtInThe]

 

[Pound4abrown]

Huh,
No/Men/In/Women’s/Anything
1) too ****ing late for that (Roe v Wade)
2) so no more procreating?
She's so ****ing dumb.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Huh,
No/Men/In/Women’s/Anything
1) too ****ing late for that (Roe v Wade)
2) so no more procreating?
She's so ****ing dumb.

she's dumb in about every way EXCEPT knowing to say what Fox says to inflame the base.